Int'l Phonetic course

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

欣欣媽,

I'm now taking the IPA course organised by the International Phonetic (HK) Association.

Course fee is reasonable, just $780 for 6 lessons @2.5 hours (avg $52/hour) together with a CD, workbook and text book.

The tutor is also very experienced and humorous. I really enjoy the class and gain much in it.

Not unitl I joined the IPA course, I did not know how terrible my pronounciation was!!

btw, I will complete the course by next week and start Level 2 course by the end of Sep.

You may visit their website for more info

http://www.ipa.edu.hk

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

highly recommend:

http://www.ipa.edu.hk/

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

hi kittylock,

long time no see and chat

you are taking this course now. Great! I have attended this course many years ago - before my marriage. But surprised! The cost doesn't change any--->超值!!

How's Derek now? (If I do not spell his name wrongly) He is very humorous. Is he married now? You know, I think he is a wonderful hubby

devoted to his work and full of care and humors with people.

Wish he spreads his gospel wide.

Teresa

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

critic 寫道:
highly recommend:

http://www.ipa.edu.hk/

我都係o係呢度補番唔記得n年既IPA, 好有用. 而家我仔都學埋IPA, 一齊查字典搵IPA, 好有滿足感架!

我試過去yahoo字典抄個IPA, 冇為意yahoo字典既 IPA錯漏百出, 都係個仔照個錯IPA讀左出黎我至知咋.

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

我想問係唔係國際音標呀

thanks!

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

kittylock:

I've attended two phonics courses designed for teachers which I find it useful as my son has also learned phonics in kindergarten, I can coach him myself if he has problems.

I'm interested to join the IPA course too but will it be mixed up with phonics?

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Hi nicolemummy,

Yes, we've long time no chat la! Time flies......

It seems that you're very interested in Derek Kwok bor.... but bad news to you: he has been married and have a 5-year old kid now la!!

When I attend his class, I always found he looks like Mr. Bean, but more handsome of course!!

If you do not consider height, he surely is a wonderful hubby as you said.

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

haaumi,

yes IPA means International Phonetic Alphabets (國際音標).

haaumi 寫道:
我想問係唔係國際音標呀
thanks!

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

jjmame,

My son also learns Letterland phonics both at school and at Eng learning centre.

As the phonic rules are compartively more simple, I think Phonics (no matter Letterland or Jolly Phonics) is suitable for younger kids of aged 6 or below.

On the other hand, IPA is a bit more complicated (there are 21 basic phoenetic sound), it is advisable for kids aged 6 or above to learn.

Actually some of of words pronouced by using IPA in dictionary may be different from using phonic rules we usually applied, so there are quite a lot of exceptions exist which is hard to explain to kids in the world of Phonics.

I will continue to let my son studying Phonics so that he can have basic understanding of sound of words. However, when he reaches primary level, I will let him join IPA course so that he will know the correct pronounciation of the words when he looks up from the dictionary.

As per Derek Kwok (the teacher of IPA), phonics is basically designed for native speaker (who use Eng as their mother tongue) helping them to read. Since the environment in HK is different, so actually the effect of phonics on Chinese kids is comparatively less effective.

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

Hi kittylock:

Thanks much for your detailed feedback. Actually I personally find phonics is quite useful in helping him to pronounce normal English words. However there is a lot of exceptional words that he can't pronounce by using the phonics rules.

If I hadn't joined the phonics course myself, I wouldn't have known it myself. I think I will pursue the IPA course first and see if it fits my son (who's now in P2).

Thanks again.

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

Yes, exceptions do exist in the world of Phonics always, but not in that of IPA!

There are only 10 vowel sound in Phonics (long and short vowel of a/e/i/o/u) whereas there're 21 vowel sound in IPA, so mathimatically you will have more than 50% chance for getting the wrong pronounciation if you apply phonic rules to "guess" the word sound!!

So that's the reason why we need to learn IPA for accurate pronounciation!!

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

hi kittylock,

Yes gar! I was interested in him gar... i think i took the course before I met my hubby

I should be single at that time - that's why i had spare time to attend the course mar..

but too bad he had never mentioned whether he was available or not, never mentioned his private life wor - you are lucky to know more lor. and i was not an aggressive person mar. should i be more aggressive, i probably am the mum of 5 yr old kid lar.

he might remember me. because i was always taking the front seat and among the few who can pronounce 'early' and other problematic english words correctly before he disclosed the cantonese trick.

. The most important, I was among the few top prettiest mar!

(hope Derek and his wife don't take these statements seriously, i am just joking..)

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

我都係n年前學過, 真係好奇怪價錢不變, 不過值得一讀, 記住唔可以走堂, 唔係跟唔上

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

hi kittylock,
i'm looking for the phonic class for my 3 years old boy, any recommendations?

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

fleet,

I think 3 yrs old is too young to learn IPA, I suggest that you may learn IPA in Derek's class first and teach your son at home to let him get a brief idea.

My son has just finished an IPA course, he is just 6. You may visit this site, but this club only offers IPA course for 6 or above:

www.readingbug.net

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Re: Int'l Phonetic course

Hi fleet,

My son has started to learn phonics when he's 3. And so far his progress is satisfactory and he is able to blend simple words and read ORT stage 5 independently.

The most popular (or widely-adopted) phonic system in HK is Letterland and Jolly Phonics. Besides, there are also other phonics courses for kids provided by other institution (e.g. 幼聯/Sage world) using in-house prepared material.

Actually there's quite a lot discussion regarding Letterland and JP here in BK. I bet you surely will gain much in spending some time to read the discussion forum.

Agreed with Teresa that IPA should be more suitable for elder kids of age 6 or above cos the system is a bit more complicated. I think kids may not be interested and found it bored cos the IPA course, besides memorising the symbol and its sound, does not provide songs and actions which kids liked most during learning.

May Teresa share with us how the IPA for elder kids was conducted.