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發表於 05-3-24 11:14 |只看該作者

請問有沒有港大同學會小學的家長?

請問有沒有現有的港大同學會小學家長?  我想知道這間學校多不多功課?  坐位是以小組形式? 或是傳統的一排排坐位? 上堂時多不多interactive?  小朋友的英文水準好不好?

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發表於 05-4-6 17:14 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有沒有港大同學會小學的家長?

我都想知!

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發表於 05-5-11 18:29 |只看該作者

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The Following is posted on the Hong Kong Farm web site as well: (http://www.hk-farm.com/discuss/read.php?f=3&i=15223&t=15223&c=7&dc=2)

Hello,

No school is perfect!

For HKUGA Primary School, a few things have come to my attention as my child is studying at this school over the past few years.

1. Many parents are disappointed because the highly praised curriculum from 3 years ago is turning into a rather unexciting traditional one. Some parents are strongly complaining about heavy workload and tests. “It is not fun anymore,” said some of the senior students.

2. More than 10 teachers have left since the first year, and I hear quite a number are leaving this summer. Is the school having difficulties in keeping good teachers? I believe the weariness on the teachers’ faces have many stories to tell. (FYI: Those who left are continuing their excellence and dedication at other schools.)

3. Many parents have voiced their concerns in a recent survey done by the school. Let’s hope those concerns will be taken seriously. It’s time to make some sense rather than just visions and ideas.

4. A three years-old school is very young. The name simulating a famous university is meaningless until significant results can produced. May be smaller steps will earn success for many years to come.

You need to be subjective and be open-mined when selecting primary school for your children. Some schools only tell the good things but leave out the problematic areas. So, be smart in differentiating idealism from realism. Watch out for schools that make promises like bouncing cheques as high as the sky. Always remember to do your own research!

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發表於 05-5-11 22:44 |只看該作者

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Hi justme,
I am very apprec your comments. I did ask you some questions in HK Farm. I would be very apprec if you can take time to answer it for me..
Take care...   :wink:
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發表於 05-5-13 18:19 |只看該作者

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could not read the web site.
justme pl help.

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發表於 05-5-14 00:34 |只看該作者

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Dear Justme2,

Could you share more information to us?    Any other comment from other HKUGA parents?  Please share.   Thanks!

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發表於 05-5-14 14:16 |只看該作者

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My son is studying in HKUGA.  This school does not let me down.  My son will spend about 1 hour to complete his home assignments every day.  My son is at P. 4 but there are more assignments during holiday especially those long holidays.

The school offers a rich curriculum and many extra-curricular activities for the kids.  Comparing with my daughter's primary school, which is a renowned English primary school for girls, the learning approach and teaching method of HKUGA are much better in my opinion.  I do not say the school of my girl is not good but it does not care much of the whole development of its student.  You will attain good results as long as you pay attention in class and memorize the textbook knowledge.   However, the knowledge base of my daughter is not broad enough and she tends to forget everything after the examination.

At HKUGA, students are encourged to explore knowledge by doing different types of assignments.  They would not be able to complete their assignments by just copying the textbook.  They would have to find answers from the web or elsewhere.  e.g. my son was learning about the use of water in the General Studies lesson.  I recalled his  assignment was to research on the Three Gorges Project on the Yangtze river.  Teacher provided the headings and the student wrote its finding.  My son was able to dig out information from the web to complete his assignment.  I really like the teaching method of their general studies lesson.  The students would do experiments at school and complete lab reports at home.  This helps to explore the science world and the kids get to know science is not a thing to memorize but it's something in reality e.g my son would never forget that air has weight after he did the experiments on the properties of air.

Like many other newly founded school, HKUGA uses mandarin to teach Chinese.  This is beneficial to students but it's too textbook base.  The English lessons are much better.  The school does not use the textbook of local school.  If you are parents to local school kids, you will know how useless are those textbooks.  Instead it uses textbook of international school which contains many lively texts.  The school puts emphasis on vocabulary building and creative writing.  Quite a lot of written assignments but I think this is required if you want to build up good language skill.  According to my son, the teacher plays games with them during class and they have a lot of opportunties to communicate with their teacher in English.  The teaching method of mathematics is also very lively.  They learned a mathematics theory through discussion and games.

The school will stream students of different abilities into different groups at English and mathematics lessons.   There is a Chinese small class to assist students whose Chinese is not good.

Students of HKUGA are required to do community service.  They learn how to show love and care to others in need.  In the afternoon, the students will attend the module lessons.  Different module lessons are offered to different grades.  A total of 12 modules will be taught each year.  Subjects include swimming, drama, visual art, dancing, rugby, computer, etc.  There are also extended learning activities arranged every Friday.  Besides academic knowlege, they are exposed to other areas of knowledge.

All parents of HKUGA will appreiciate that the school offers a lot of extra-curricular activities for the students.  The school has all sort of instrumental class.  It has its own string and windband orchestra.  Others are athletics team, swimming team, drama, choir, cub scout, etc. etc.  A view of their homepage will give you more details.

Teaching in HKUGA must be hard and it's no wonder the turnover rate is high.  The school employs a very different approach of teaching and learning.  Students are not just sit and learn.  They are taught to learn themselves.  I think parents have to judge if the approach is suitable to your kids.

Cheers,





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發表於 05-5-14 23:37 |只看該作者

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Hello HAPPYMOM@WORK and other parents whom may found this interesting:

Let me congratulate you, Happymom@work, on having a brilliant son studying in P.4 at HKUGA Primary School. He must be exceptionally good at school because he can finish his homework in an hour everyday while others are feeling the pressure from the workload and tests.

I did not expect to see such a long explanation promoting HKUGA Primary School. From what you have written, for a while I can recall the scene of the School Principal introducing the school in a forum. Are you also a teacher teaching there? I apologize if I have offended you in anyway. I was simply sharing my feelings towards the school. Unfortunately, many parents who have their children studying at HKUGA Primary school mutually agree with those feelings. Also, thank you for pointing out that information could be found on the School’s web site.

For my child, I would prefer good quality learning than just rich curriculum and many extra-curricular activities. Happymom@work, When will you have your daughter to change to HKUGA Primary School, too? Will you or will you not! May be you have already realized that your daughter is speaking better English than your son is. Many parents have been complaining about the English Department for the last 3 years because it has experienced a complete change of teachers. The department was quite disorganized for the longest time. In addition, they do not teach English Grammar systematically and they do not teach phonics any more after some of the best English teachers have left. Therefore, most students are often speaking broken English in class.

Let me share with you some other findings about this school regarding the workload for the students. Among heavy complaining from parents, at least one parent in P.3 has written a very long letter to the school complaining there were 3 to 4 projects to be completed over the past Easter Holiday. Furthermore, it seems that, once again, the School has lost its trust from that parent because the letter was sent directly to Chairman of the School Management Committee. Since you spoke highly about the school, I assume your son is not in the P.4 class, which is having a special meeting with the class teachers next week because most of the parents are having problems with the school?

I am sure extra-curricular activities can reveal a student’s hidden abilities; however, I would love to see my son learning how to read and write better before anything else. I hate to be one of those parents concerning about kids swimming 6 to 7 days a week for the school swimming team, and they are too tired to finish their homework at night. Nevertheless, the school believes that if they are not good at schoolwork, at least they are good at swimming.

The school is new and it wants plenty of track records to attract incoming students. Even some experienced teachers commented that a 3 years-old HKUGA Primary School is trying to accomplish things like a school with over 20 years of history. On the other hand, teachers, students, and their parents are taking 6 times as much pressure as other schools. May be this is what a new DSS need to do in order to promote and survive.

The way you explain “Teaching in HKUGA must be hard and it's no wonder the turnover rate is high” sounds very insensitive. Of course, being a teacher is a hard profession. But, many teachers have shown their concerns over too many happenings in such a short time. As I parents, I want my son’s teachers to have a balanced life inside and outside the school. I want them to feel fresh when they walk into my son’s classroom on Monday mornings. If you live in the school area, you can see teachers working until late hours at school every night. They need to make up the teaching materials as the days go by. I have seen the weariness on their faces at those non-teaching events such as the fund-raising walkathon on a Sunday morning for their secondary school, and at Friday night’s forum to keep the parents company. One year, two years or three years …  how long do you think they can last? As a parent or if you were a fellow teacher, should we have sympathy for them? They are all good teachers and are excellent in their profession, and they have given their best to the students until they were exhausted or fell sick. Some of them even got bad mouthing unprofessionally by the school once they put forward their resignation. Fortunately, they found their happiness and have their time better served by teaching at other schools. I personally would feel even more unfortunate for those who wanted to leave and could not because they need their bread and butter. It makes me wonder if it is really the teachers’ faults or there are problems at the leadership level.

My son and most of his classmates are receiving heavy tutoring everyday after school in order to keep up with the school works. It is too late for my son to change school now; however, my son will not return to their secondary school, the HKUGA College, after P.6.

I do not speak for other parents, but I speak what I see. I should say no more for now as I have said that parents should be smart in choosing schools for the children. There are more DSS out there now than 3 years ago, and some of them are running by more experienced establishments. Try listening carefully to the parents’ conversation outside the school gate after school, may be some other parents will share their feelings, too.

Cheers, too!

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發表於 05-5-15 00:28 |只看該作者

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By the way, I would like to add:

One day my son told me that he felt unhappy and he worried for his teachers because they worked so hard and they got sick so often. When they got sick, they left. I felt speechless at that time because I did not know what to say.

Not just the turnover rate is high at HKUGA Primary School, more than a handful of the teachers were left in the middle of the school terms. Are those teachers that unprofessional or are there other underling stories to tell? I can vow for my son that he and his friends fondly miss those teachers who have left, especially those who left in the middle of the school terms. I am wondering if the School Management Committee had sense any potential problems in the school when they approve those resignations starting 3 years ago, or when they see the abnormally high records of teachers getting sick in the past three years.

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發表於 05-5-15 00:29 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有沒有港大同學會小學的家長?

有心唔怕遲,早走早著!咪害已害人.....妳個仔!

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發表於 05-5-15 09:54 |只看該作者

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其實我都覺得好奇怪﹐初初有話死都唔收插班生﹐但係今年有見到佢收喎!好多謝妳哋提供資料。

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發表於 05-5-16 10:41 |只看該作者

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An experimental school.  Students there are guinea pigs of new educational ideas.  High teacher turnover rate reflects administrative problem of the school authority, especially in bad economic times.  Students are final victims.
我們怕孩子的人生路途滿佈荊棘,與其為孩子在路上舖一層地毯,不如在孩子的腳上穿上一雙鞋。

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發表於 05-5-16 23:12 |只看該作者

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I am the son of happymom@work.  I'm a student at 4C.  I want to know is there really a parent's meeting.  I don't know how to get a notice to my mom.  Mom's urging me for the notice.   Please let my mom know the time and place of the meeting.

Thanks my mom for giving me a chance to write and play here!

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發表於 05-5-17 00:42 |只看該作者

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Hello happymom@work,

The meeting is going to be held this coming Wednesday evening at HKUGA Primary School. The notice was given out last Friday. As usual in such a short notice. If you didn't receive it, please ask your son to consult with his class teacher at once.

Your son writes exceptional good English for a P.4 student. He even inherited your writing style. Who is his English teacher? Did he find his English class a bit too easy and boring for him?

By the way, you are such a lenient mother, because I would never let my son stay up until 11:12 pm playing the computer.

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發表於 05-5-17 11:21 |只看該作者

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HKUGA 是我的 Dream School 之一, 因此, 不久前親自到了學校參觀.
我們的 "校園領隊" 是 P4 學生, 照著安排好的路線, 約略了解學校環境及設施後, 趁著簡介和問答會未開始, 家長們開始七嘴八舌地向我們的領隊們打探學習生活的情況...
我們這組的小領隊, 從傳統學校轉來, 功課? 他表示比以前少多了, 一般一小時內可完成, 學習生活較以前開心得多, 學校提供多元及多樣化的課外活動給學生, 唯若某些課外活動較受歡迎, 報名人數過多, 就得抽籤決定.
這幾個小領隊, 個個大方得體、有禮, 並能侃侃而談, 參觀校園時, 也見一些正在上體育課的學生, 感覺? 經過挑選的學生, 果然 "樣貌"、"素質"較平均囉
校園到處可見學生的作品, 由於遲到, 並沒細看, 聽見有些家長說程度頗高... 學校雖為活動教學, 但據聞中英數水平皆高於全港學生水平
再說說對管理層的印象, 校長口才非屬口若懸河, 簡介會內容也很平實, 但可感受到她是一位有教育熱誠及有擔當的人, 對於家長的各式提問, 校方有問必答--- 無論問題多麼奇怪!
此外, 為確實實踐理念, 校方每年都有這方面的評估, 此評估非只是校內老師、家長的問卷, 亦請校外專家參與...
我聽到其他HKUGA家長對學校的評價都頗正面, 個人則認為, HKUGA 網站的資料多, 透明度高, 一間透明度高的學校, 在我的想法裡必不怕接受批評, 也才會有心去改進.

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發表於 05-5-17 14:20 |只看該作者

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其實我同老公都幾鐘意呢間學校,不過我之前睇完你地d message之後有d驚,不過老公睇完話新0既學校梗係會有好多地方需要改善,最緊要係校方肯接受意見及指評,咁學校先至會有進步。況且我老公同事的女兒亦係該校學生,佢同事都話女兒上學非常開心及主動左好多。

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發表於 05-5-17 21:50 |只看該作者

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to: justme2

洗唔洗咁講呀,明吋人姐! 同妳這種人講唔須要斯文!
真唔明妳咁唔喜歡學校,未咪講 law,我估妳都糸常常去學校 complain 架啦,學校唔 so 妳,妳就懷恨在心。我知妳係邊個。走啦,這間學校不歡迎妳。

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發表於 05-5-17 22:19 |只看該作者

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請問各位家長你們希望小朋友學校生活是怎樣?學校給他們有做不完的功課、不停測驗默書;那便是一間好學校?作為一個港大同學會小學的家長什樣去看這間學校?

我女兒有些專注力不足,所以我要求不高,經過一年學校的生活,使我非常驚呀她的進步,如不是老師們誠懇地教導她,相信她沒有此成績。

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發表於 05-5-17 23:58 |只看該作者

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我不是不體諒老師的辛苦,既體諒,我又怎會不捨他們的離去呢?況且如您所說,他們離職後又找到理想的環境工作,繼續為其他學生服務,又有何不妥呢?

如果您不要求學校提供豐富的課程和有益身心的課外活動,只集中學習中英數常等主科,而學英文從文法著手,香港十居其九的學校都是這樣的,但像HKUGA提供那麼豐富課程和學習經驗的學校,卻是很小的。直資其中一個理念是要讓家長多一個選擇,又為何要改變學校的辦學理念。在我來說,付出不太貴的學費,卻能讓孩子得到多方面的培養,這是超值的。

在上學期,每位學生需輪流用三分鐘的時間向全班同學講述一則時事,不久便取消了,其實這是一個很好的訓練,我也不知是不是其他家長的投訴而取消了,真是非常可惜。所以請不要剝奪我兒學習的機會。

每一位HKUGA四年級的學生都是插班生,因學校只辦了三年學,我兒在原校的成績也是不錯的,只因我喜歡HKUGA的理念,才與兒子商量轉校。我女兒現已升中了,但在小學時她也曾轉校,轉校是不難的,很多著名小學也會招收插班生,是不用拉關係的,因名校的學生也會轉校、移民或出國留學,只要在四、五月的時候,寫信給您心儀的學校並附上成績表副本,學校便會發信通知您參加他們的入學考試,只需考中英數三科便行了。成功與否,學校也會發信通知。而現在有多間地區小學也有剩餘的學位,您可聯絡教育署,他們會給您提供資料和提供協助。請放心,港大同學會的中英數程度也是不錯的,並不比我女兒當年差,試想我又怎會漠視我兒的學習呢?

您說HKUGA的學生需留校學習,我兒只留校參加課外活動,但參加與否,卻不是強迫的。您有否與班主任反映您不願兒子在放學後留校,以我了解學校的作風,應不會強迫您兒的。

試想,如果要學校的老師只教書,不給學生功課、評估和課外活動,學校和老師是很易做到的,但這對我和您兒的學習,又是否最好呢?況且港大同學會的功課是很能幫助學習的,而只要上堂留心,評估也不需花太多的時間溫習。

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發表於 05-5-18 18:33 |只看該作者

Re: 請問有沒有港大同學會小學的家長?

Hello, 各位親愛的HKUGA家長;

首先,我覺得IssacNewton你不用太激動,這是討論區justme2係可以講出佢心中所想的,我
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