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[size=11.818181991577148px]SES對HKDSE及HKALE學生的升學影響 (40 pages 原文)
http://www4.cuhk.edu.hk/icare/icare_media/Projects/Research/2012-13/report/r08-12_research_report.pdf

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Comments and feedbacks:

1. Relation of SES on educational achievement is well established. It is trivial to
re-establish this fact.

2. According to the PISA (OECD) study, SES is least related to educational achievement
among the economically developed countries, showing that HK government is doing quite
good (of course, there could be other conducive factors)

3. It is really difficult to see what can be drawn from the data. Most samples are CUHK
students (already admitted to universities) and will seriously skew/distort the relations.
Results and conclusion may be different if the research includes young people who did not
admitted to universities. This can be the next step of research.

4. More importantly relation of SES to achievement is a well documented and
understandable observation (e.g., richer families have more educational resources). Hence,
researchers should obtain all statistics (relations of SES and achievement) against
international figures, to compare HK is situation with other countries.

5. Author can publish the report somewhere to gain more readerships to this report.

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 14-03-05 發表
SES對HKDSE及HKALE學生的升學影響 (40 pages 原文)
http://www4.cuhk.edu.hk/icare/icare_media/Project ...

Fair comments from the professor.

To me, more interesting questions are:

1. Property of the correlation. Where is the point of diminishing return?

2. What if we factor in parent's profession. What is the property like.

3. One stay home parent vs both working parents before primary years for example.

4. Property of the correlation between tuition hours and DSE result.
5. Is the geography of the universities makes a difference?

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 14-3-6 10:35 編輯

Have only read about 10 pages:

The English is a turn off for me. I find myself consistently trying to figure out what does he mean precisely.

It actually answered my question #1 and 2 for me.

University A is very different from university B and C. For B and C:
More than one university shows that the percentage of university entry actually goes back down as the family income goes up beyond 40K. How does it compare with the population who has this income? The report does not seem to address this.

The results also show that there is a much higher chance to get into a university if you live with your parents in public rental housing (whatever that is) than private housing. Again you have to compare this to the population who has private housing.

Another one is that the highest percentage group is actually the students with parents achieving only F1 to F3 education.

The report should try to explain these issues rather than just presenting the results.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 14-3-6 09:40

Another surprising result is that the highest percentage group is actually the students with parents achieving only F1 to F3 education.

Perhaps they are less likely (than those of parents with higher education) to be complacent!

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Have only read about 10 pages:

That's why I prefer to read the original report and not just the interpretation of the reporter.

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noplanner 發表於 14-3-6 10:32
Perhaps they are less likely (than those of parents with higher education) to be complacent!

No it is likely because there are fewer high income and high education people in the population.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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ANChan59 發表於 14-3-6 10:33
That's why I prefer to read the original report and not just the interpretation of the reporter.

...

Is that a undergraduate Project homework?

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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It's not a project homework, more a self imitative project to get fundings to explore social issue.

You can search " i - Care " leadership program from CUHK in Google, you can find more details about the program. I like the concept personally.

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High and low are relative to different definition.

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I am not impressed. Everything has to be viewed with the population mix in order to make "any" sense out of the data. Eg the % of >40K entering Uni has to be compared to the % of >40K in the population. Since he has not do e any of that the conclusions do not tell us much.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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ANChan59 發表於 14-3-6 13:16
High and low are relative to different definition.

I mean there are more lower income people in HK and it is nit surprising that there are more lower income students in University, not because higher income group tend to be more complacent.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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原帖由 shadeslayer 於 14-03-06 發表
I am not impressed. Everything has to be viewed with the population mix in order to make "any" sense ...

You can search in CUHK administration department. They announced the year 1 intakes' SES systematically.

I guess the student may not refer to their breakdowns, so difficult to compare with other researches, so the conclusion can be misleading.

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