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讀國際学校中文又吾好, 本地学校又大壓力, 仲可以点揀呢? [複製鏈接]

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Any school can provide good Chinese standard but International school learning enviroment?

I saw many DGS, St paul kids have good standard of Both chinease and english standard, but honestly their family reallly pay a lots for this, stay with them for homework, exam, school competition, holiday...

But IS student just playing, reading, projecting, I dont think they know less thing then local school student, but just their Chinese is so......
I want to provide a happy 童年回憶 for my kids with me, therefore I choose IS, but now..their chinese is so upsetting me...

My sister daughter is 2 years old now, she need to think which way to go, honestly, 吾知点講...
How about you, any advise?
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原文章由 NLai 於 08-4-9 12:28 發表
Any school can provide good Chinese standard but International school learning enviroment?

I saw many DGS, St paul kids have good standard of Both chinease and english standard, but honestly their fa ...


Have you sent your kid to learn Chinese after school?  I think most Chinese parents with kids studying in IS will do so as usually IS students don't have homework (or just a little) from school, so they have more spare time than those studying in local schools, they can then afford some time to learn Chinese after school.  If study in local schools, kids still go to tutor classes to do their homework and revise for tests and exams.

There are now some local bilingual DSS or private schools such as Victoria, CKY, ISF for those who expect bilingual teaching at school.

[ 本文章最後由 WYmom 於 08-4-9 13:34 編輯 ]


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原文章由 jessicalau 於 08-4-9 15:56 發表
What is ISF?


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發表於 08-4-9 23:09 |只看該作者

回覆 #4 NLai 的文章

There are good local schools! Some DSS and private schools are very good. Also, parents' attitude is very important. If you are relax, kids will be relax. Choose a school with less homework for you kids. Not all local schools require students to study late. It seems that many people have a misconception that the only good thing about local schools is 'better Chinese'.

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Yes, they have private mandarine class after school, but you know, they still never interest about chinese, I think is enviroment, they think they can speak and can read newspaper is much better then their friend at school is enough. But my standard is much higher, I am a 文科生, so I want they can understand more Chinese History, and culture. I think is far way to go, I will work hard on it by myself.

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發表於 08-4-10 13:02 |只看該作者
原文章由 NLai 於 08-4-10 11:45 發表
Yes, they have private mandarine class after school, but you know, they still never interest about chinese, I think is enviroment, they think they can speak and can read newspaper is much better then  ...


I see, if then, it's really hard for you.  I think if we send the kids to study in IS, we have to prepare to accept that the Chinese standard will not be so high as to "literature" level and the kids will be more westernised.  I have no problem with it as I studied Science and business in the past and I grew up in a westernised family.

On the other hand, I found my kids studying in IS have higher initiative and interest in Science, history, geography, music, art and sports.  As my kids have experienced, the teaching of general studies (include Science) in local school was very boring, most are instructional without exploration.  It is so much contrasting in IS, where they can study factual information in much more interesting way with an inquiry mind.

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發表於 08-4-10 16:36 |只看該作者
NLai,

In ISs, English is the first language and Chinese is only an additional language. It is very difficult to expect children to have similar Chinese standard as their counterpart in local schools.

ISs have very limited time assigned for Chinese classes and the time is split into teaching the language itself, introducing Chinese culture (eg why eating mooncakes in mid-autumn festival, why having dragan dance during Chinese new year), and some Chinese history. You can imagine how much times is left for actually teaching the language. With the limited time spent, you cannot expect the teacher to be able to go through the textbooks in a very in-depth manner. For example, even if we are talking about the same Chinese poem 靜夜詩, local schools and international schools would probably be teaching it in a totally different approach. Local school children might be learning about the structures of different types of Chinese poem, while IS children would probably be just learning how to write the words and the meaning of the poem.

IS secondary schools have no special stress on teaching Chinese history and culture. They do teach cultures and history of different countries or nations, but would not spent more time on teaching about China. For example, my child in Year 7 have learnt about Japanese Noh Theatre "能劇" in Drama, and have leant some Chinese history in Humanities. My children's school (Renaissance College) has no national background. I think other schools like CANIS or AIS might spent relatively more time on Canadian and American history respectively. But what I notice so far, is that RC do not specifically spend more time on Chinese history or Chinese culture in classes, just because Hong Kong is a city in China. They do try to decorate the school a bit by, for example, putting up lanterns during moon festival and Chinese new year and encourage children (Chinese or western) to wear Chinese outfits during those times, and they have organised after schools fairs during those special festivals. However these are not part of the cirriculum, but rather merely after school events.

On the other hand, IS are learning English in a totally different way as local schools. English in IS is considered a first language and is "taught" as a first language. For example, even Year 7 English is mainly literature appreciation and critics. Students are asked to read certain books on their own at home, and then go back to school to discuss the content. Of course some time would also be assigned to do writing and grammar etc..

So, you can see that we are talking about different approach and expectations in teaching English and Chinese in local and international schools. And thus, we see very different results in the standard of the languages.

It is not practically and not reasonable to expect IS children to have Chinese standard comparable to local school children. So parents should be aware of this.

I think ultimately, it depends on what a parent want. I chose international school because of many reasons. Language was only one of the reasons (I want my children to have native English skills) and there are also a lot other reasons why I prefer international schools. Being weaker in Chinese is an unavoidable "result" of my choice. I feel perfectly fine with my children's Chinese standard. They are not as good in Chinese and are trying hard to keep up with reading and writing Chinese, but I am happy with their other skills they have acquired all these years. Skills that I think if I had chosen a local school, would not be as well developed as now.

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發表於 08-4-10 19:42 |只看該作者
原文章由 WYmom 於 08-4-10 13:02 發表

I see, if then, it's really hard for you.  I think if we send the kids to study in IS, we have to prepare to accept that the Chinese standard will not be so high as to "literature" level and the kid ...


I agree, they know many through their own explore, this is the reason why I say I dont think they know less then Local school student. I am fine with their current situation, And I think is not good for them to change any more. They are happy with their friends, teachers, school every details matter..

My sister baby is 2 years old and she have to choose which way for her baby, she ask my advice, honestly, is very hard for me to say, she is a working mom, and I am not, I can spent time for more chinese story telling to my kids, .. We are thinking as if any school in HK Island side can balance both things well will be perfect, is Chinese International school chinese is good and with international school enviroment? If yes, normally, which kindergarden they go?

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發表於 08-4-12 23:18 |只看該作者
christf, I understand you are a fans of IS. What I mean is that there are good local schools. They have caring teachers, convey important values and culture, teach you how to enjoy and appreciate arts, provide overseas study trips, not much homework, small class, etc. I know what good things IS have but we should be fair. There are good ones in local schools. We should not generalize and say all IS are better than local ones. So please don't overreact and be relax.

原文章由 christf 於 08-4-10 09:22 發表
**It seems that many people have a misconception that the only good thing about local schools is 'better Chinese'.**

Apart from 'better Chinese', another point is in general 'less expensive'.  

Plea ...

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原文章由 readers 於 08-4-12 23:18 發表
christf, I understand you are a fans of IS. What I mean is that there are good local schools. They have caring teachers, convey important values and culture, teach you how to enjoy and appreciate arts ...


Hi readers and other moms:

Can you name some of the local schools that put not so much stress on the quantity of homeworks but are still good at academic levels, as well as teaching students good manners and values?  Those schools that are most appreciated are always those that are highly competitive in admission and famous....e.g. st. paul's ed, DGS, st paul's convent, ISF...etc.....  you know...........But besides these, what are other choices?

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Pls see PM

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原文章由 readers 於 08-4-13 23:45 發表
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Can you PM me also? thx!!

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Can you please PM me too?

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原文章由 readers 於 08-4-13 23:45 發表
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Hi Readers:

Checked your PM already.  thanks, please see PM again.

thanks very much

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原文章由 readers 於 08-4-13 23:45 發表
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原文章由 readers 於 08-4-13 23:45 發表
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Can you please PM me too?

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原文章由 sam/josh 於 08-4-15 07:35 發表


Can you please PM me too?

Actually we dont have this list, we are just asking if any body knows about it, please share...

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