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教育王國 討論區 初中教育 阿仔管唔著?......
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發表於 07-3-25 10:28 |只看該作者

阿仔管唔著?......

阿仔管唔著?......

好想好想知, 對在職媽媽來說, 仔女升中學後,

1)        仲有冇請工人呢??  Or 用 part-time 呢?

PS: 阿仔放學後/校內活動都四/五點啦, 如果工人成day單獨留在屋企, 即放了個計時炸彈係屋企 (誇張左d, 但係你睇完BK的forum 你就不覺誇張嫁 la)

2) 亞仔升中後有何改變? 是否真的很少同媽咪溝通 ?  管唔著?

PS: 因男人天性不會好似女仔咁多野講, 好似女仔同媽咪關係咁close <好驚不久將來, 對住二人男人, 日日在山洞自閉, recover 左先出來

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Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

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bubbles114 寫道:
阿仔管唔著?......

好想好想知, 對在職媽媽來說, 仔女升中學後,

1)        仲有冇請工人呢??  Or 用 part-time 呢?

PS: 阿仔放學後/校內活動都四/五點啦, 如果工人成day單獨留在屋企, 即放了個計時炸彈係屋企 (誇張左d, 但係你睇完BK的forum 你就不覺誇張嫁 la)

2) 亞仔升中後有何改變? 是否真的很少同媽咪溝通 ?  管唔著?

PS: 因男人天性不會好似女仔咁多野講, 好似女仔同媽咪關係咁close <好驚不久將來, 對住二人男人, 日日在山洞自閉, recover 左先出來
托爾斯泰:幸福的家庭都是相似的,而不幸的家庭則各有各的不幸!

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發表於 07-3-26 21:04 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

我都係今年個仔升左上中一之後開始無用工人,我地大致上順利過度。亦有叫 part time 鐘點上來幫手。

至於仔仔暫時還未有大改變,不過就真係忙左很多,我成日都同佢講上左中學就要靠你自已,唯有都係多D 鼓勵,溝通亦都因為大家各有各忙而知小左佢D 野,但一有時間我就爭取機會架 la!

其實我都有擔心佢再大D 可能都嫌我地煩,但無辦法啦,我唸呢個係人生必經之路,自己細個時都係咁啦,所以唯有更加珍惜他現時還未大變的時候,盡量 close D, 希望將來變化小D, 自已容易接受D, 大家好過D.  

唔好太過憂慮啦 :

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發表於 07-3-28 14:06 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

櫺囹桼 寫道:
其實香港哋七八成父母都要雙雙做野,冇得驚咁多!
1)小朋升中後,科目、課外活動...都多左!就算你有時間逐樣問佢,佢都冇時間遂樣答你...只好半放手 + 多啲鼓勵 + 多啲信任...跌倒時給予安慰..再問佢需唔需要搵人補習...其他都要靠佢自己!
2)印尼女傭也好、菲律賓女傭也好...佢哋大部份都有強烈宗教信仰及天性善良,所以如果唔係對佢哋過份管束及不信任 + 佢哋冇債務纏身...絕大部份係可以信賴!
3)男性同女性不同之處:講多一句嫌你長氣、講少一句話你欠缺關心...所以搵到竅門、掌握得宜...佢哋都會乖乖任得你舞!
007


Dear 007,

我囝囝亦快將升中, 做媽媽的,忙完面試, 又開始擔心與他關係疏離, 問題是,007先生所說的"竅門"實在難於"掌握得宜",究竟怎樣先可保持母子間之良好關係呢? 我自問與囝囝的關係很好,無所不談, 有如要好的朋友一樣, 升中後,會改變嗎?....
我知無人可以回答, 我只是發洩一下吧了!    
:-D ;-) 8-) :-? :weapon: :weapon: :weapon: :party: :party: :party:

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Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

cymummy 寫道:
我囝囝亦快將升中, 做媽媽的,忙完面試, 又開始擔心與他關係疏離, 問題是,007先生所說的"竅門"實在難於"掌握得宜",究竟怎樣先可保持母子間之良好關係呢? 我自問與囝囝的關係很好,無所不談, 有如要好的朋友一樣, 升中後,會改變嗎?....
我知無人可以回答, 我只是發洩一下吧了!    


cymummy:
仔女始終會長大...始終要獨自應付成長之路!而且大個仔大個女當然會開始有自己問題、煩惱...但始終也需要自己去面對、解決及承擔!(就不能夠與小學生一般教導方式...)
所以只要慢慢放手...就唔會感到關係有所疏離!況且如果由細已經同子女建立良好感情、關係...佢哋會知道父母在背後默默睇住佢成長、無時無刻也在支持他們、有需要才會作出協助...佢哋一定明白父母這分心意並更加努力、積極面對將來以答謝父母~放心啦!
007
托爾斯泰:幸福的家庭都是相似的,而不幸的家庭則各有各的不幸!

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發表於 07-3-29 11:47 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

Dear 007,

多謝晒係既回應, 看完你既鼓勵說話,現在個心舒服左好多啦!
thank you very much!!!!
:-D ;-) 8-) :-? :weapon: :weapon: :weapon: :party: :party: :party:

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發表於 07-3-29 13:45 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

唉~!!我個仔升左中一之後,只係半個學期,我同個仔的關係急轉直下,好多時都鬧交,為咩?!就為左上網問題,因為中學好多時要上網做功課/交功課,但係d同學就教佢玩online game同msn,有一排真係好沉迷,我地兩公婆都同佢傾過好多次,每次好一兩日(唔玩online game)又再來過。
上學期考試終於出左成績,好啦~個仔都叫醒覺d,現在放假至玩online game。但係d性格就變左好多,好自我,自以為自己好大個,唔多同我地溝通 櫺囹桼講得很對,就係講多句都嫌你長氣!
其實小學階段都好乖,我覺得個仔最大問題係受d不良同學影響,真係近朱者赤、近墨者黑!

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發表於 07-3-29 14:27 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

ck@@ma
點解你冇同佢約法3章,定時定候幾時先可以上網玩下?

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Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

火石,
我地兩公婆同個仔傾過咁多次,梗係有講過啦,佢都應承話做到,但係佢次次重犯,都係話做完功課玩一陣,跟住就停唔到,叫佢收機(當然唔會一叫即收啦),問佢點解唔停得,佢話同人鬥緊分,跟住我d火就來,繼而口角,所以我同佢關係就愈來愈差囉。
其實唔只打機一樣,佢上左中學,說話方式都好有問題,粗俗左好多,其實我都明,佢要同宜家呢班同學溝通認同,所以耳濡目染,你又唔可以話人地,唯有同佢講多d道理,但係最難就係你一出聲,佢就嫌得你煩!

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發表於 07-4-3 17:08 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

This is the common problem of many parents. I don’t know how to handle. Nevertheless, let me share my tears with you all.

My son was a band one student. He was the top 5 in his primary school. He was admitted to a EMI DBS school.
In the first year, he didn’t work hard. Same as the other students, he played on-line game or MSN a few hours after school. I talked to him and yelled to him sometimes. By the way, I was quite satisfied with his examination result as his ranking is higher than average.

In the second year, nightmare came.
He played on-line game and MSN for the whole day after school. We were ignored by him. He disregarded us even in weekends. He did his homework in their fashion (leaving some of them blank). He never did his PSSE homework and his score in his result slip is 15 marks (full mark is 100). I often yelled at him and sometimes talked to him in a gentle way but the result was the same, being ignored.
He even ignored his lunch. He forgot to submit the lunch subscription and he can only eat instant noodle for lunch.
He turned worse and worse. He didn’t pick up his book before examination. I studied with him like teaching a primary student. Luckily, WE have studied for a few hours before the exam finally.
His mid term examination result was at the lower end.
Now, it is his uniform test. I stop all the internet connection and he can’t face to the computer all the day round. BUT now, he does not come home.
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發表於 07-4-3 20:46 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

bigdaddy 寫道:
This is the common problem of many parents. I don’t know how to handle. Nevertheless, let me share my tears with you all.

My son was a band one student. He was the top 5 in his primary school. He was admitted to a EMI DBS school.
In the first year, he didn’t work hard. Same as the other students, he played on-line game or MSN a few hours after school. I talked to him and yelled to him sometimes. By the way, I was quite satisfied with his examination result as his ranking is higher than average.

In the second year, nightmare came.
He played on-line game and MSN for the whole day after school. We were ignored by him. He disregarded us even in weekends. He did his homework in their fashion (leaving some of them blank). He never did his PSSE homework and his score in his result slip is 15 marks (full mark is 100). I often yelled at him and sometimes talked to him in a gentle way but the result was the same, being ignored.
He even ignored his lunch. He forgot to submit the lunch subscription and he can only eat instant noodle for lunch.
He turned worse and worse. He didn’t pick up his book before examination. I studied with him like teaching a primary student. Luckily, WE have studied for a few hours before the exam finally.
His mid term examination result was at the lower end.
Now, it is his uniform test. I stop all the internet connection and he can’t face to the computer all the day round. BUT now, he does not come home.


bigdaddy:
'he does not come home' = 意思係佢無返屋企? 而家佢個情形點?

我自己都發覺囡囡升左中一之後性格變左好多, 可能因為佢認為自己大個囡, 有自己思想. 我而家唯有提升自己ga EQ.  
明天會更好!

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發表於 07-4-3 21:17 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

bigdaddy 寫道:
This is the common problem of many parents. I don’t know how to handle. Nevertheless, let me share my tears with you all.

My son was a band one student. He was the top 5 in his primary school. He was admitted to a EMI DBS school.
In the first year, he didn’t work hard. Same as the other students, he played on-line game or MSN a few hours after school. I talked to him and yelled to him sometimes. By the way, I was quite satisfied with his examination result as his ranking is higher than average.

In the second year, nightmare came.
He played on-line game and MSN for the whole day after school. We were ignored by him. He disregarded us even in weekends. He did his homework in their fashion (leaving some of them blank). He never did his PSSE homework and his score in his result slip is 15 marks (full mark is 100). I often yelled at him and sometimes talked to him in a gentle way but the result was the same, being ignored.
He even ignored his lunch. He forgot to submit the lunch subscription and he can only eat instant noodle for lunch.
He turned worse and worse. He didn’t pick up his book before examination. I studied with him like teaching a primary student. Luckily, WE have studied for a few hours before the exam finally.
His mid term examination result was at the lower end.
Now, it is his uniform test. I stop all the internet connection and he can’t face to the computer all the day round. BUT now, he does not come home.

bigdaddy,

其實類似的個案非常典型、多如恆河沙數。我自已也見過不少在小學時讀書很好的兒童,一到中學,成績率先下滑,到中二反叛期時更和父母關係弄得非常疆。

今晚時間不足,不能和你詳細研究,但推薦你去聽聽新城電台娛樂台裡的「爸爸媽媽坐下來」的個案重播,裡面有不少個案和你的雷同,有時間的話更可以於星期天早上十一時三十分到下午一時打電話聽聽專家的分析吧。

Good luck!

Eviepa

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發表於 07-4-3 23:22 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

bigdaddy,

I think you need to bring him to see a doctor.

My nephew is a F5 student now, he is preparing his HKCEE, but, heard from my sister, he always spends at least 2 hours in the internet, headache.

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發表於 07-4-4 13:44 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

Thanks all,

'he does not come home' = 意思係佢will not come home before dinner. His excuse is to study in his classmates’ home.
Before typing the post yesterday, he said he will not come home and I was so lost and upset that I ended my writing by “he does not come home”. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.

新城電台娛樂台裡的「爸爸媽媽坐下來」的個案重播
Is it on air on星期天早上十一時三十分到下午一時?

I believe I understand what they are thinking.

In their mind, everything is no big deal. Examination result is not a matter. They only need to promote every year and begin to work a bit harder in F4 or F5 to get a good result in HKCEE.
Like the “Talk Hoi” in the Japanese cartoon “Initial D”. He can finish his class, help his father to distribute the DauFu, work in a gas station and even join their bloody race after midnight. Everything can be done easily and it is no big deal.

I meat his friend recently. This is their dialog.
How is your result?
Last 5, how about you?
Last 3. Hehe.

They don’t sorry about their result but proud of marginal pass.
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發表於 07-4-5 09:57 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

They don’t sorry about their result but proud of marginal pass.


I think I can understand what the feeling he had.

In my secondary school age, I always got 60+ or 70+ in minor subjects (in my opinion, only math, a. math, physic are major subjects). Sometimes, I got 60 and my classmate got 59, I was very happy and called my classmates to a store and all of them had a cup of cocacola.

But at that time, we played basketball after school and go to sleep early at night, I think it is much better than play MSM all night.

I finally got 3A in HKCEE, and actually, I still cannot understand why I could manage pass English at that time.

I think it is too early to think about HKCEE, but stay in front of computer all day is a big problem, try to bring him to see a expert as soon as possible.

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發表於 07-4-5 12:24 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

bigdaddy,

我有以下的信念:

1. 學業固然成績重要,但親子關係更重要。我覺得有一個關係良好的文員女兒,比一個關係惡劣的CEO女兒好得多。相對於親子關係而言,成績不好確實是 no big deal。

2. 學習成績與親子關係有一個相當強的正相關,即平均而言,親子關係越好,成績越高。所以若要成績好,最好先弄妥親子關係。

3. 若要提高子女成績,責罵只能做到反效果,讚賞才是最有效方法。

我們很喜歡埋怨老闆太多責罵,太少讚賞;太多要求,太少付出。但有沒有撫心自問有沒有犯上同樣的錯誤呢?

兩代之間的問題,錯的是造物弄人,造人時將人類的記憶造得太差。我們已忘掉了子女其實是自己的翻辦。

當我們責罵子女沒有學習主動性,不到最後一刻不做功課,不會主動溫習功課時,你還記不記得當年你父母也是以同一理由、同一口吻對你責罵?  既然你、我、他及你、我、他的子女都是同樣沒有主動性,要求小朋友有主動性又是否一個合理要求?

當我們責備子女時常打機,荒廢學業時,有否記起昔日自己父母如何責備自己經常打波子?

當我們發現有一小撮少年人前衛到穿舌環,覺得非要大聲疾呼不可時,還記得上一輩當日怎樣評價我們留長頭髮、穿喇叭褲、著鬆糕鞋?

當我們覺得自己是個有自尊的人,堅信老闆的讚賞遠比責罵更易刺激起自己的積極性時,何苦要用剝奪自尊的方法去辱罵自己的至愛呢?為何總不能明白要子女做得更好,讚賞是絕佳方法?

親子關係猶如銀行存款:關懷、愛護、讚賞就是存入現金;打、罵、哦就是提取款項。若然經常提款而不注意存入的話,便是透支,透支多了,兩代關係便會變得極為緊張,甚至子女頭也不回地離去,到時,子女讀書有多棒也與你無關!

Eviepa

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發表於 07-4-5 12:36 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

bigdaddy 寫道:
新城電台娛樂台裡的「爸爸媽媽坐下來」的個案重播
Is it on air on星期天早上十一時三十分到下午一時?

「爸爸媽媽坐下來」是在星期日 11:00am-1:00pm播放, 其中11:30am-1:00pm 是接聽聽眾電話,解決奇難雜症的時間。

另外,click 進新城電台娛樂台便可找到數百宗個案,隨時可以重溫。

I meat his friend recently. This is their dialog.
How is your result?
Last 5, how about you?
Last 3. Hehe.

They don’t sorry about their result but proud of marginal pass.

似乎你兒子已經缺乏自尊,是時候要找社工輔導了。

Eviepa

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發表於 07-4-5 19:56 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......


Eviepa,

十分贊同你的觀點,我都是過來人,女兒由F.1 的操行 C, 到剛剛F.4上學期的操行 A, 都反映了親子關系的改進,成績亦突飛猛進!如果我仍然用F.1時對她的態度,她的操行及學業成績便不會有此改善;我便沒有了今天的喜悅!   

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發表於 07-4-6 00:40 |只看該作者

Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

>另外,click 進新城電台娛樂台便可找到數百宗個案,隨時可以重溫。


新城電台娛樂台「爸爸媽媽坐下來」網頁
Click here


Then click 錄音重播 。
尋找「閃光點」,努力不懈,堅毅不屈,機會總是留給有準備的人。
但是,有準備不一定能找緊機會,因為....
命運就是這樣的敲門。
要找緊機會,就要戰勝自己和戰勝命運。
遇到逆境,堅持,不要放棄。
黑暗是可怕的,極難耐的.....
但是,渡過了黑暗,不就是黎明了嗎 ?!

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Re: 阿仔管唔著?......

Ben
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