想問有無人知道弘立書院好不好?

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Re: 想問有無人知道弘立書院好不好?

好...................貴！

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Re: 想問有無人知道弘立書院好不好?

My husband and I went to its Open Day on Mar 10. We are very impressed with the presentation skills of the students even at Grade 1 level.

Its teaching principle is very attractive to us: equal balance in Putonghua and English. For the Chinese language, students need to learn reading and writing in Traditional Chinese at the same time be able to recognise Simplified Chinese characters.

I suppose many parents are interested in putting their children to this school. The only concern is its short history.

We know someone whose kids are attending this school and they are very happy there.

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Know that they use 70% Mandarin 30% English in primary and then switch to 30% :70% in secondary. Heard that students are from rich family of mainland China people. Seems to like "Yew Chung" on HK side.

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I also went to the Open Day. It was an eye opener. The students looked cheerful and confident and they were truly billingual. Many students spoke like native speakers in both English and Mandarin. I had been to many open day events (both local and international schools) and had never seen anything like that.

A friend's friend had her younger son switched to ISF a year ago. She had her elder had the same move this year. I am told that both the parents and the sons are now extremely happy.

The only concern is $$$.

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tinging,

can u get info from your friend a bit more for me regarding the below area:

1) Discipline, especially those in upper primary
2) proficiency of languages - will the English level be as good as other IS, e.g. ESF?
3) Background of the students - are they really from the "rich families of the mainland people"?

Tkx a lot

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plus:

$1,000 application fee (short short 地:tongue: )
$12,000-20,000 captial contribution scheme
$5,000 micellaneous fee each year

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but application fee is common for most IS ya!

由 HuiTung 於 2007-03-23 09:57:57

plus:

$1,000 application fee (short short 地 )
$12,000-20,000 captial contribution scheme
$5,000 micellaneous fee each year

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Oh well. You maybe right. For those who can pay the fees would not care about such a small amount of $$$ ....

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If they use 70% Mandarin 30% English in primary. Would there be too few English lessons? Can the students maintain their English standard?

Can anyone share?

When will they move to the new campus?

Hui Tung,

Don't be surprised.Even RC under ESF now needs to pay $800 as application fee.

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wewangwang,

They will move to the cyberport campus in coming August.

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wewangwang,

Yes, yes. I just can't help being surprised because I'm from the low-income class ....

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Re: 想問有無人知道弘立書院好不好?

wewangwang 寫道:
If they use 70% Mandarin 30% English in primary. Would there be too few English lessons? Can the students maintain their English standard?

如果真係 70 % 中文，30 % 英文，英文的比例，比很多全英語教學的 local school ( 如 dgjs，mcs，ghs，等 ) 都少。

能唔能夠有好的英語水平，我想要看看家長的要求，
反正每個人對 "英語好" 的介定都不同。
"好" 與 "不好" ，真的要看用甚麼尺量度，單說某學校 "英文流利" ，意義不大。

講兩個例子。
有朋友的孩子讀開九龍塘區某名小學，一向成績中上，早幾年為孩子中學返英國讀書鋪路，先在小學階段轉去耀中，結果，當時上堂有困難，因為聽唔切老師講乜。印象中，耀中英語水平在 IS 來說，算是低了。
另一例，好多人都話本地名女校 DXS 英文好，因為老師們英文都好好，但係早排看電視某事時節目，拍攝該校高中女生與老師堂上用英語討論，唔聽還可，一聽，原來學生老師都係港式口音 ( 這個我還可接受 )，詞彙不夠 ( 這是重點問題 )，跟很多讀 IS 的小學生比也不及。該校可以話係香港英語水平 "最好" 的了。

講返中英文課程比例，其實單看中英文的比例，也可以估到學生一般的水平。
網友話弘立係 30% 英文， 70% 中文；
而印象中，ESF 差不多可以話 90% 英文。
弘立的 "英文好" ，跟 ESF 的 "英文好" ，不會一樣罷。
當然，這個說法未必準確，但可以估計出學校的語文水平。

如果弘立真係只有 30% 英文，我就覺得唔夠。
我唔識這學校學生，但識好多其他 IS 學生，
包括 esf，yc，sis，cis，cais，ais 等。
印象中，冇邊間英文比例少過 50 %。
我觀察得來的，就係世事冇咁著數，可以兩者兼得，
要做到大部份學生都真係中英文都咁好的，我覺得真係冇。

我聽朋友間，好多都好鍾意弘立，
聽佢地說的一點點，我都相信會係間好學校，
但我唔知原來英語比例這麼少，
正如有網友說，他們行的，正是耀中的路，希望比人覺得中英都好；
但耀中的例子告訴我們，空有理想係冇用，邊間學校冇理想？雖然學校，老師，家長，甚至學生都想做到 "中英都流利"，但事實，耀中學生一般都只會英語偏強，或中文偏強。

如果家長偏向希望孩子英文強些 ( 這裡暫不討論中英文那樣重要，因為只是個人意願，冇對錯 )，我覺得耀中 & 弘立都唔不似係好選擇。
但有些人為了孩子可以學多點中文，不介意犧牲一點點英語，那耀中和弘立看來都中文強些。

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Agree with Naoko. ISF has never claimed to be an international school, it is a local bilingual school, which is similar to Yew Chung or PLK CKY. I don't really know what's their language standard is. I just know that schools like PLK CKY will choose to accept students with good English and mandarin at P1 (this is very much achievable if the kids study in bilingual international kindergartens). So if we want to assess the standard of students, will need to look into details of the student's output, presentations etc. and see how the teachers teach, and, ultimately, their results in public exams.

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我朋友子女响弘立讀, 佢地中英文嘅比例唔係fix死嘅, 小學時中文多D, 到中學就英文多D, 我個人覺得幾make sense, 自己D英文都係大個出國讀書先至變好, 但如細個唔學中文, 大個先學就好難。而家外國D學校都要D鬼妹鬼仔响學校讀中文as a second language, 咁响香港而父母係中國人嘅小朋友, 個人覺得佢地D中文一定要係functional, 咁當然英文亦好重要, that's why I think the ISF syllabus makes sense.

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Naoko, WYmom,

But I think even Yew Chung and PLK CKY their Chinese: English ratio would not be 30 vs 70 , but the other way round i.e 30% Chinese (at maximum) Given the current 30% English in ISF, if the students are really as described as " truly billingual. Many students spoke like native speakers in both English and Mandarin." Then it is really amazed and their school fees are worth.

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According to the info given out during the ISF Open Day, the percentage of English vs. Chinese is 30:70 for P1-P3 while it will be switched to 50:50 for P4-P6.

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