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發表於 06-5-26 09:54 |只看該作者

曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

Dear All i-seat parents,

If you agree with me, please each of you email the sample letter below to Mr Donald Tsang for expressing our concerns on i-seat problem.

I have emailed it to Mr Tsang.

SMITH


To : HKSAR Government (Chief Executive Mr Donald Tsang)
Dear Mr Tsang,

Request for Improvement of IP-service for Special Needed Children in the Nursery
I'm a parent of an autistic child. My kid is attending a whole-day nursery with integrated programme (i.e. so-called IP-service or i-seat). Comparing the HK's IP-service for special needed children against similar services of the western countries, the current IP-service provided by HK Government is running very much behind other international cities.

The deficiency of the current IP-service is summarized as below:
1.        The degree and frequency of intervention of various therapists and psychologist are extremely insufficient. For example, the speech therapist (ST) trains each child for just one 30-minute-training in every 2 weeks. The occupational therapist (OT) and the clinical psychologist (CP) visit each IP-nursery once 3 months and once 6 months respectively. In other international cities, special needed children will receive intervention training by ST, OT, PT and/or CP on a daily basis.

2.        The existing entry requirement of the i-seat teachers in respect of their educational qualification is too low. Not mentioning i-seat teachers, the existing policy is just to require all serving kindergarten or nursery (KG) principals to have completed Certificate in Early Childhood Education (C(ECE)) by 2005/06, but C(ECE) course is even not a qualification requirement for serving KG teachers. In Year 2003, just about 13% of KG teachers are the holders of certificates or degrees in early childhood education. More worse, not all i-seat teachers are trained on special education. In view of these facts, the professional competency of i-seat teachers is very questionable.

3.        For other KG teachers (except i-seat teachers) in the normal nursery that provide IP-service for special needed children, no training on special education topic has been provided to these teachers. But, these KG teachers are also responsible for teaching special needed children with at least spending 50% of the schooling time of these children. Without sufficient training for these teachers, how they can handle with special needed children skillfully.

The above deficiency is obviously a result of insufficient public budget on IP-service. I hope it is not your intangible value point that the need of the special needed children is not an important priority.

According to Clause 42 of HKG Chief Executive’s Year 2005/2006 Policy Address, Mr Tsang said “The Government…to provide extra support to children…with special needs, to ensure they have a proper opportunity to develop”. Sir, may you explain more on what extra support you have provided on IP-service. As a parent, I must tell you that the existing standard and quality of IP-service in general cannot provide a proper opportunity for special needed children to develop.

Parents’ Proposal
May I request you to:
a.        enhance professional competency of i-seat teachers by upgrading their educational qualification to the bachelor degree level in relevant subjects like social work and/or psychology etc. In addition, i-seat teachers must have received the specific training on special education;

b.        allocate one full-time on-campus ST in each IP-nursery;

c.        allocate one full-time on-campus OT in each IP-nursery;

d.        increase the frequency of speech therapy and occupational therapy training conducted by professional ST & OT respectively for each children to 30 minutes per day;

e.        change the role of i-seat teacher to be a co-ordinator responsible for conducting social group training and communication with the parents.

f.        Provide special education training for other KG teachers, of which their nurseries join IP-service.

Autism is a kind of very serious diseases. Autistic child is a patient. They need more intensive training and sufficient intervention both by the professional therapists and their parents at the early stage (before 6 years old). Just like other diseases, we cannot allow a secondary school graduate or a university undergraduate to take up a responsible post for curing a patient, instead of a qualified medical doctor, because of saving public budget. Therefore, to ensure the special needed children have a proper opportunity to develop, the above proposal is strongly needed and required for your implementation.

Social Cost and Cost-Effective Way
The above proposal (or request) will, of course, increase your public budget for the special needed children. But, on the other hand, it increases the job opportunity for ST, OT, PT and CP. The request also shares the heavy psychological and physical pressure of the parents (specially the parent’s travelling time in arranging their kids for off-campus special training in daytime due to insufficiency and deficiency of the existing IP-service).

Moreover, in the viewpoint of society, the social cost is higher if the special needed children are brought up without enough support. When they grow up, the society needs to assign a lot of resources to take care of them. Even the intervention training at early age will cost the society for a certain amount of public resource, it is more cost effective than the resources used to take care them for their whole-life. It is more sensible that the society expends more public fund on these children by offering intervention training to these children at their early age rather than the government offers pieces (but insufficient and discrete) support for their whole-life which may eventually cause a lot for the society.

Pending Donald Tsang’s Action
Mr Tsang, you also said in your website that Hong Kong is truly an Asia's world city - one of the great cosmopolitan cities. As such, I hope that the quality of IP-service for special needed children should reflect Hong Kong the same - an Asia’s world city.

Therefore, please listen to our parents’ voice and consider our request for increasing the quality and standard of the existing IP-service. The time for providing the special needed children a proper opportunity to develop goes by very fast ---- Your prompt action and responses should be quick!

Regards,
  
Mr & Mrs Smith

cc: 1. Watchdog Early Learning & Development Centre : [email protected]
      2. Support Group on Integrated Education : [email protected]
   3. LegCo Legislator Mr Cheung Chiu-Hung : [email protected]
       4. Special Education Society of HK : [email protected]
   5. Heep Hong Parent Association: [email protected]

Notes: This letter is also posted on
http://www.baby-kingdom.com/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=44

bcc:
A group of undisclosed parents of the special needed children & the concerned persons

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發表於 06-5-26 13:16 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

may I know the email of Donald Tsang?

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發表於 06-5-26 13:39 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

Email address of Mr Donald Tsang (特區行政長官"曾蔭權") is
[email protected]

You may better cc copy your email letter to the following concern groups:

1. Watchdog Early Learning & Development Centre : [email protected]
      2. Support Group on Integrated Education : [email protected]
   3. LegCo Legislator Mr Cheung Chiu-Hung : [email protected]
       4. Special Education Society of HK : [email protected]
   5. Heep Hong Parent Association: [email protected]


Regards,
SMITH

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發表於 06-6-2 10:07 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

Dear all parents,

The 1st reply email from CEO Office (Mr Donald Tsang) was received. I list the content below.

SMITH


Dear Mr & Mrs Smith,

Thank you for your e-mail of 26.5.2006 to the Chief Executive. Please be informed that the matter raised is noted and has been relayed to the relevant authority for follow-up.  A reply will be given to you in due course.


Yours sincerely,

(Wanda Luk)
for Private Secretary to Chief Executive
[email protected]

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發表於 06-6-3 00:29 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)


其實有些i位老師已經擁有ce、特殊幼兒教育證書資格,她們擁有超過10年的幼兒教學經驗,對幼兒的發展相當了解,而且她們不斷進修,如:參加有關的課程、講座、工作坊,期望對有特殊需要的小朋友提供最有效的方法..(甚至有同事到不同地方,如台灣、澳洲參加有關另類治療/輔導的課程),她們的默默耕耘唔係要得到什麼讚賞回報,而是她們委身於服務我們的小孩,為著我們的小朋友努力,期望他們能融入社會。她們能做的全力以赴,在校內為幼兒爭取公平的待遇。

個別機構削減津貼,她們仍堅持進修(相信大家都知坊間有私人機構的課程未被政府認可,她們讀完也未必得到有效力的證書,她們只為多一個方法治療/輔導我們的小孩)。

她們明白孩子表達能力較弱,有時會出現較激烈的情緒,被抓傷咬傷時,她們也得體諒......

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發表於 06-6-5 09:43 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

Dear SCIN,

I agree with you that some of i-seat teachers are doing very well with their heart (like what you mentioned above) for the special needed children.

In fact, the main points of my letter to HK Government are to point out insufficiency of intervention training for i-seat children and request for more on-campus supporting services provided by Government.  Of course, the quality and training for i-seat teachers and other KG teachers is to be raised. But, it is not my point to attack the i-seat teachers. Maybe the wording in my letter about i-seat teachers should be rewritten in order to avoid a feeling of denying the effort of existing i-seat teachers.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion.

Lastly, invite you to join us fighting for sufficient supporting resource for our kids. In USA, the parents of special needed childrens raised a "one parent one letter" campaign to US Congress for fighting on the similar subject. Because of such actions by the parents, the US government gave a positive response to their request.


SMITH









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發表於 06-7-8 09:02 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

Dear all parents,

The content of my second email chasing the reply from Donald Tsang is as below:

Dear Mr Donald Tsang,

6 weeks have elapsed since my first email to you on 26 May 2006, but we haven't yet received reply from you and/or the relevant departments of HKSAR Government in response to my points.  Would you please tell when you can reply us OR you will not reply?

Also, I attach an article extracted from TIME MAGAZINE (May 2006) reporting the great effort being adopted by US Government & Societies in treating / training US autistic children. If we compare US Government's effort and resource allocated in this aspect, we Hong Kong may simply feel "GUILTY   & SHAME" for what our HKSAR Government has done for our HK autistic children (especially in i-seat and/or S-seat). Please particularly see one of the points that the teacher-to-children ratio is 1 to 1 in US, how our ratio in HK?


Regards,

MR & MRS SMITH

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發表於 06-7-9 22:51 |只看該作者

Re: Existing i-seat problems (Ask Donald Tsang)

Thanks to Mr and Mrs Smith for your effort.   

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發表於 06-8-31 08:59 |只看該作者

曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

Email below was sent to Donald Tsang (曾蔭權) on 29 Aug 06

Dear Mr Donald Tsang, Ms Wanda Luk,

As talked to Ms Wanda Luk of Chief Executive's Office over the phone on 29/8/06 morning, 3 months have elapsed since my first email to Mr Donald Tsang on 26 May 2006, but it is disappointed to note that no any responses have yet been received to-date from any Government's bureau / departments.

None of response from you appears that the need of children with special need is not a priority for Mr Donald Tsang to address. If my proposal listed in my first email is wrong and/or not practical, please point out to me and copy the same to other addresses.

Here, I strongly request you again and again... to give solid responses to my proposal within further 2 weeks time.

This is my 3rd reminder.

Regards,
Mr Smith

cc. SCMP Post
      Ming Pao
      Leg Councillor Dr Cheung Chiu Hung
      Heep Hong Parents Assoc.
      香港特殊學習障礙協會
.     SPECIAL EDUCATION SOCIETY OF HONG KONG
     Watchdog Early Learning and Development Centre
      支 持 融 合 教 育 協 會 Support Group on Integrated Education)
      Autism Ass HK
      SWAP
   
bcc. undisclosed parents with special needed-children and concerned person

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發表於 06-9-7 12:47 |只看該作者

曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

[Below is an email response from Social Services Department received on 7 Sep 06. Bascially, the Government did not give a direct, soild & positive response to us, but just mention some information of existing services. From this reply, we may know 曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡]

Dear Mr & Mrs Smith,
  
I refer to your email to the Chief Executive, copied to us on 4.9.2006, sharing your concern on the Integrated Programme in kindergarten cum child care centres.  I am delegated to reply to you as follows.
  
We agree with you that early intervention is very important in enhancing the development of disabled pre-schoolers.  This is exactly our objective for the provision of various rehabilitation programmes for these children, namely, Early Education and Training Centre (EETC) service; Special Child Care Centre (SCCC) service; and Integrated Programme (IP) in Kindergarten-cum-child care centre (KG-cum-CCC).  These programmes are designed for disabled pre-schoolers of different degree of disabilities and the intensity of rehabilitation training for these children also varies.   
  
EETC is for mildly handicapped children with an objective to maximize the developmental functioning of these children by supporting and enabling their parents to accept, understand, care for and train their children. SCCC provides centre-based intensive training and care for moderately and severely disabled pre-schooler so as to develop their abilities to the fullest extent to establish a firm foundation for subsequent education and development.  IP provides training and care to mildly disabled pre-schoolers in an ordinary KG-cum-CCC.  Through this programme, these children will have a better chance of future integration into the mainstream education system.  Disabled pre-schoolers admitted to any of these programmes may ask for a transfer of programme so as to meet their changing service needs, such as change to SCCC for more intensive training.
  
EETC and SCCC are centre-based services with provisions of speech therapist (ST), occupational therapist (OT), physiotherapist (PT) and special child care worker (SCCW).  Clinical psychological services for these centres are provided by the clinical psychologists of the agency or Social Welfare Department (SWD).  The provisions for IP are different in that the programme is attached to a normal KG-cum-CCC where usually only six to twelve disabled pre-schoolers are receiving schooling together with normal students.  The disabled pre-schoolers under IPs will, in addition, receive individual training from the designated SCCW of the centre at the ratio of 1 SCCW to 6 pre-schoolers.  Depending on the training needs of the pre-schooler, speech therapy will be provided by a District-based Speech Therapy Team, and paramedical services by the Central Paramedical Services Unit and Clinical Psychology Unit of SWD.  The Department is providing a One-year in-service training course for the special child care workers to enhance their knowledge in caring and training for disabled children.  On top of advice and support rendered by ST/OT/PT and clinical psychologists to the SCCW in conducting relevant training for the pre-schoolers, running of training programmes for the parents is also essential component of their work.   
  
Please be rest assured that we would continue to monitor closely the delivery of the Integrated Programmes and other rehabilitation programmes for disabled pre-schoolers and consider enhancement measures where deemed appropriate.
  
Thank you for your concern on the Integrated Programme for mildly disabled pre-schoolers.  Should you have any enquiries, please contact Mr Chan Kwok-ho, Senior Social Work Officer (Rehabilitation and Medical Social Services)1 at 28925378.

With best regards
Mrs Li  
for Director of Social Welfare

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發表於 06-9-7 21:26 |只看該作者

Re: 曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

我是路過的...

我同意有特殊需要的幼兒有權利接受密集式的訓練,也認同smith所講,現時幼工的資歷相對發展國家來說實在差太多。

但,smith所提出的要求,有些似乎不大合理。

大部份兼收位幼兒中心只有六名有特殊需要的幼童,要求每間中心各有一名全職st和ot,是否合理呢?(特殊幼兒中心治療師與幼童的比例是1:60。)加上,這六名小朋友中,未必全部需要st或ot服務。
      
另,如果小朋友其實需要非常密集的個別訓練,是否應入讀s位而非i位呢?

兼收位有地區性言語治療服務隊,是03年開始的。由冇到有,已經是一大進展。兼收位的服務對象本來就是問題較輕微的小朋友。你提出外國有特殊需要的小朋友每日均能接受st/pt/ot/cp的個別訓練,我相信除非小朋友的情況很嚴重,否則亦不會有這樣密集的服務。
      
而且,用外國例子相比,對政府不大公平。香港稅收相對很低,各項民生福利都比稅收高的國家差,這是事實,實在是無從比較的﹗

政府不是不知道幼稚園/幼兒園老師的資歷不夠,事實上,政府已打算慢慢改善。小學老師學位化也是幾年才愈做愈好的,凡事不能操之過急。

政府也在考慮是否應該將九年免費教育推前到學前。以現時的情況,如果想用學位教師,幼稚園/幼兒園的學費將無法不加價。假設將成本轉嫁家長,有多少人可以負擔呢?

社署這封回覆,已經將現時的服務列得很清楚。如果孩子真的有需要密集的訓練,請考慮特殊幼兒中心。

全港需要政府資助的人很多,政府實在需要好好分配資源,無法答應每一個人的訴求。

純粹以事論事,多有得罪了﹗

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發表於 06-9-7 23:28 |只看該作者

Re: 曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

Dear Smith and all,

If you think further down the road, at least there is something called "ï-seat" at nursery for pre school age autistic children.  Where are the i-seats for primary school age children?  Or when they are even older?  There is none, absolutely none.  We can either put our kid into a special school, or mainstream school.

There are a few accomodating international schools that provides some i-seat equivalent services for those of us who can afford it and who are lucky to get their children admitted.  But the spaces are so, so limited.

The education system in Hong Kong really sxcks.  We are a third world country in this area.

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發表於 06-9-9 23:31 |只看該作者

Re: 曾蔭權 對 i-seat 問題的冷淡[Existing i-seat problems]

Ms 童話,

Thank you for your particular interest in this topic. But, you appears to me that you are NOT a parent with an autistic child because it is your first time to say something in 特殊教育[討論區].

If you were a parent with an autistic child in i-seat nursery, you may better know the existing problems and deficiencies in i-seat services.

If you were us, you would have well known the situation and pressures we have been bearing.

As I'm busy with my office work during this week, I'll give you next week a detailed response to the points you raised.


Mr SMITH
(father of an autistic child)




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