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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 油天或是英華好呢?
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發表於 05-9-26 19:14 |只看該作者

油天或是英華好呢?

Hi, 各位有experience 的parents, kindly advise me the followings due to lack of experience, many thanks borrrrrrrrrrrr

我現有兩個校網可供選擇, 31 和 40, 應選油天 (31網)又或是英華(40網)呢?

如選擇德信為統一派位第一志願,是否合適呢?

有傳言說如在統一派位後想叩門油天,一定要在自行分配和統一派位表格part A & part B 三部份都要填油天,否則不會派form wor, is this true?

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發表於 05-9-26 23:10 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear Parent

油天或是英華 depending on whether you have enough points.  Both schools are good.  
If you are Catholic or old boy/girls of 油天, you should choose 油天.  
If you are Christian or old boy of 英華, you should choose 英華.
If you do not satify either of the above, you just take it easy because you will not have any chance at all in round#1.
In last year, 油天 will still distribute application forms (last year about 300 forms sent out for round#3 for 10 places) even you did not choose their school.  But priority will be given to those who have applied for the school in round #1 and #2.  If you did not, unless yr kid is very very smart and out-performed others during the interview, the chance is zero.
It is the same for 英華 as it is also one of the most popular boy school.

I also want to remind parents that it is not worth to spend much effort for round #3 as the chance to get into these popular schools is very very low.   Each school has only around 5-10 seats for round #3 and they are generally reserved for those with special connection or relationship with the school.  So pls just focus on round#1,#2 and the private/DSS school application.

Hope this is useful.

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發表於 05-9-26 23:31 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear Ted,

Many thanks for your advice.  As mentioned by you before, I really get no mark for both school, I can only select either one school network (31 or 40) as my 2nd round application.  As both 油天 & 英華 are very popular schools.  I think there should not have many seats left for 統一派位.  To play safe, the best strategy for having first choice school is to select other not so popular school, say, Tak Shun, also a good school but not as popular as the above two.  So is my idea OK?    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, lucky draw is really very difficult to get maaaaa.

     

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發表於 05-9-26 23:37 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Hi maxgood,

Both 油天 & 英華 are good primary schools.

英華 primary has the benefit of a through train linking with her secondary college, but I wonder whether she is a Band 1 secondary college at present.

The shortcoming of both 油天s: they have no affiliated secondary college at all (though their secondary allocation is quite good especially for Band 1 students)

If you select 德信 as 1st choice in the lucky draw, the chance is much higher than both 油天 primary schools. But bear in mind that 德信 's secondary allocation banding result this year is just so so (Band 1:31%, Band 2:37%, Band 3:32% ) and also one-third of her graduates enter 德信中學 in Ma On Shan. I heard it's not difficult to enter 德信 primary this year in the 3rd round (knock the door stage) too.

  

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發表於 05-9-26 23:57 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear Mission,

Million of thanks for your great advice.  I think I should make up my mind to choose either Net 31 or Net 40.   油天  & 英華 must be my 1st choice then.  However, 油天 has two schools (old one & the new one), which one is the best?  Moreover, I heard from my friend that 方樹泉 in Net 31 is a band 1 primary school, is that right?  I really has no idea & not familar with this school wor.

     

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發表於 05-9-26 23:58 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear MaxGood

I agreed that lucky draw is difficult so it is important to devise a proper strategy in the selection.

I still considered #31 is a better choice over #40, because #31 has 2 Yaumatei Catholics (altogether 240 seats), St Mary for girls, Tak Shun and even Methodist; whereas #40 only has Ying Wa.  If you still want to try Ying Wa in the 1st round and back #31 in 2nd round, you have to reserve enough time to change the school net (the deadline is in early December).

If you choose Tak Shun in 1st round and get the seat you will have peace of mind for the rest of the year, but you then lose out the chance for Yaumatei Catholic in 2nd round lucky draw.  I think it is worth to try Yaumatei  Catholic in the lucky draw (select either the old or new as 1st choice and Tak Shun as 2nd choice), if you are not successful you can still have a very good chance for Tak Shun.   What even worst is you still can 'knock door' to Tak Shun as it is not that difficult.

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發表於 05-9-27 00:24 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

maxgood 寫道:
Dear Mission,

Million of thanks for your great advice.  I think I should make up my mind to choose either Net 31 or Net 40.   油天  & 英華 must be my 1st choice then.  However, 油天 has two schools (old one & the new one), which one is the best?  Moreover, I heard from my friend that 方樹泉 in Net 31 is a band 1 primary school, is that right?  I really has no idea & not familar with this school wor.

     


Hi maxgood,

Both YMT Catholic primary schools have their admirers since their secondary allocation is quite good, for me it's difficult to pick which is the better one.  But one thing to bear in mind, if you choose one of them as 1st choice, don't choose the other as 2nd choice. I suggest 2nd choice you can choose Methodist (AM/PM) and 3rd/4th choice 方樹泉 (secondary allocation banding result: Band1 : 44% Band2: 38% Band3: 18%). Just my personal opinion.

  

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發表於 05-9-27 00:24 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear Ted,

In my opinions, I also take Net 31 instead of Net 40 as it's too risky to take Net 40.  It has only Ying Wah but others are not so well known school.  So do you know 方樹泉 in Net 31, is it really a band one school?  

Many thanks!!

      

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發表於 05-9-28 00:04 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

Dear Maxgood

There is no banding in Primary school.  方樹泉 is just right next to old Yaumatei Catholic and it is a reasonably good school.  It is the 3rd choice in Net31.

The secondary school allocation last year was quite acceptable.  But pls note that majority of its Band 1 students went to 聖芳濟書院.

   

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發表於 05-9-28 10:26 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

I prefer 英華 because the overall standard are much higher than 油天.

Also, 油天係精英制, 如你入唔到精英班, 等同出面普通小學冇分別.

雖然31網好似好過40網, 只因31網d學校多人識, 但不要睇小40網, 就算你入唔到英華, 40網有好多官校backup, 將來升中比31網有好多選擇.  只要起呢d小學努力d, 壓力又冇咁大.

至於德信, 佢地中學是入九華機會大一點, 但九華現今非昔比....

以上都只係個人意見~ :

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發表於 05-9-28 10:35 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

英華好處是一條龍.
sadsam 寫道:
I prefer 英華 because the overall standard are much higher than 油天.

Also, 油天係精英制, 如你入唔到精英班, 等同出面普通小學冇分別.

雖然31網好似好過40網, 只因31網d學校多人識, 但不要睇小40網, 就算你入唔到英華, 40網有好多官校backup, 將來升中比31網有好多選擇.  只要起呢d小學努力d, 壓力又冇咁大.

至於德信, 佢地中學是入九華機會大一點, 但九華現今非昔比....

以上都只係個人意見~ :



油天5班中有3班是精英班, 比例是很高的.

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發表於 05-9-28 10:58 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

I prefer Net 31 instead of Net 40. There is no good choice except Ying Wa in Net 40. But in New 31, both YMT Catholic primary schools, St. Mary (girl sch) and Methodist School (AM & PM) are good and well known. Therefore, there are more seats (ie. more chances) to get a good school in Net 31 than Net 40. (In last year, there is NO third round seat avaliable in Ying Wa. But every year, there are some seats available in both YMT Catholic primary schools.)
      
點簽呀?!

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發表於 05-9-28 11:12 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

"循道"有直屬英文中學"循中",本屆有87%小學畢業同學上"循中","循中"也是一間很好的學校!
    
必必 寫道:
英華好處是一條龍.[quote]

sadsam 寫道:
I prefer 英華 because the overall standard are much higher than 油天.

Also, 油天係精英制, 如你入唔到精英班, 等同出面普通小學冇分別.

雖然31網好似好過40網, 只因31網d學校多人識, 但不要睇小40網, 就算你入唔到英華, 40網有好多官校backup, 將來升中比31網有好多選擇.  只要起呢d小學努力d, 壓力又冇咁大.

至於德信, 佢地中學是入九華機會大一點, 但九華現今非昔比....

以上都只係個人意見~ :



油天5班中有3班是精英班, 比例是很高的.[/quote]
點簽呀?!

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發表於 05-9-28 11:26 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

sadsam 寫道:
I prefer 英華 because the overall standard are much higher than 油天.

Also, 油天係精英制, 如你入唔到精英班, 等同出面普通小學冇分別.

雖然31網好似好過40網, 只因31網d學校多人識, 但不要睇小40網, 就算你入唔到英華, 40網有好多官校backup, 將來升中比31網有好多選擇.  只要起呢d小學努力d, 壓力又冇咁大.

至於德信, 佢地中學是入九華機會大一點, 但九華現今非昔比....

以上都只係個人意見~ :


Hi sadsam,

You mentioned that the overall standard of 英華 is much higher than 油天. I am interested to know where did you get that information from?

According to ming pao.com, this year only 4 out of 60 graduates of 英華小學 enter 英華書院, and
獲派首三志願學校的百分比 is only 53%, much lower than the average HK standard!

On other hand both 油天 primary schools have over 50% of band 1 students (quite good standard for subsidized schools) , and just as 必必 has mentioned, the ratio of 精英班 in 油天 is quite high. I believe the comment that "入唔到精英班, 等同出面普通小學冇分別" better apply on 德信 than 油天.

I think the private primary schools in 40網 Sham Shuo Po region, such as 聖方濟各, 禮賢, 德雅, 德貞, etc. (some have over 70% band 1 students) are much better than the subsidized and government schools in secondary allocation.


  

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發表於 05-9-28 11:32 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

mission,
純粹8掛...英華唔係一條龍咩?  Why 只係得咁少入番中學?  
--- 2J 作品

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Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

JJ1122 寫道:
mission,
純粹8掛...英華唔係一條龍咩?  Why 只係得咁少入番中學?  


Hi JJ1122,

英華 commence 一條龍 only from 2005 (just like St. Mary's), the students admitted to primary 1 before this year cannot benefit from "through train" to secondary college.

By the way, how's your daughter studying in Methodist?

  

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發表於 05-9-28 12:33 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

mission,
icic...
亞女okay啦.  頭先上你地St. Mary個topic(我始終係St. Mary fans, 哈哈)  見你地都係默A-Z.  我地都係囉.  黎緊默A-Z.  中文寫緊"讀書" 叫最深架拿.  久唔久整張工作紙要寫感受, 對亞女黎講就難少少囉.  佢要我幫佢組織番d句子出黎.  呀..if你有咩功課係email到既, email d比我oY..

C...攪到人地d個topic添.   40網我除左英華之外無間識, 所以唔敢比意見.   
--- 2J 作品

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發表於 05-9-28 14:28 |只看該作者

Re: 油天或是英華好呢?

mission 寫道:


According to ming pao.com, this year only 4 out of 60 graduates of 英華小學 enter 英華書院, and
獲派首三志願學校的百分比 is only 53%, much lower than the average HK standard!




May I clarify some misunderstanding?

It's true that this year only 4 out of 60 graduates of 英華小學 P6 enter 英華書院 because most of them came from 基全小學 and were not entitled to "through-train".
All  graduates of 英華小學 are entitled to "through-train" from September 2007 (current P5 students).
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