蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

我個人相信該信的指控可信性甚低, 原因
1) 水仙花五百元盆是一籌款項目, 沒有強迫性的,家長全都是純出於自願,若家長嫌貴,可以不買,故不存在掠水問題。
2) 若校方真的有問題，我相信校方本身為着自己的聲譽，亦會盡法改善。畢竟新小拔成立只得兩年，而家長當初報考新小拔，亦想信是認同它的教育理念，故不會草草掉不掉就作出投訴及轉校的威脅。再者，新小拔是直資學校，舊小拔是政府的，試問各家長，信它所謂"集體轉校"是否講得咁易,話轉就轉。
3) 某些教師沒有大學學位，我相信教學經驗必定比一紙文憑更為重要。作為真正新小拔的家長，必然會跟學校合作，給予支持(無論精神上,財致上,時間上等等)，斷不會作出以上無謂的行為。

個人觀感，希望不要有人惡意中傷新小拔

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今早看完這篇報導, 我相信這班家長是來自舊小拔, 其實兩間學校的教學方針都是不同, 兩者都有很大的區別, 一間是著重學業成績, 另一間是希望學生除了成績外, 還要多元化發展. 我不敢說他們不對, 但如果新小拔真是達不到他們的要求, 我亦非常讚成他們盡早為自己的兒子轉校,而不需要發信給傳媒評撃學校, 他們這樣做法會不但影響家長對學校信心, 對學校的未來也做成很大的影響.

我兒現時在新小拔讀二年級, 我亦承認學校有很多不足之處, 但學校成立還未夠一年, 我認為需要給予時間來改善, 其實我眼見有很多地方都在改善中. 在上個月, 學校亦舉辦了一個諮詢大會, 希望聽取家長意見來改善不足的地方, 從這方面已看出學校的積極.

我兒在學校生活得很快樂, 眼見他的英語也進步了不少, 在聽和講方面亦有明顯的進步. 其實我相信讓自己兒子入讀的家長, 都不是只看現在, 而是看將來(入讀其中學), 亦希望讓自己的兒子可以在一個開心愉快的環境學習.

這班家長可否給予多些時間給新小拔改善呢? 無需這麼快而下定論.

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

各位BK MUM MUM,你們好,我是PA PA 容我發表小小意見,因為男女觀

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Though I am not a DBSPD parent, I think the newspaper is just a malicious letter from some parents who want to deter others to enrol DBSPD but on the other hand would apply for their kids for P.3 & P.4.

I know some DBSPD parents who come from some famous Chinese private primary schools such as Pui Ching, APS and Creative. They all give very high credit to this school as my friends see that their children's English standard improve very much and they enjoy studying in DBSPD very much. No one is willing to revert back to their former schools.

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

小兒的英文真係突飛猛進架,三百字的英文作文不用一小時便自行做好,這

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

我囝囝現就讀小二，他去年亦在一間英文小學就讀。
今早看完這篇新聞，亦有問過小兒，他說星期四的早會的確是用中文讀金句和祈禱，但老師曾對他們說希望學生認識中文和英文的金句等。宗教和體育堂外，絕大部份時間也用英文，除非有同學不明白，老師便會用中文解釋。
我個人完全接受這種教學模式，只是小部份時間用中文，不用那麼大件事呢！事實上，小兒的英文亦明顯進步，無論聽、寫和講都最比舊年好得多，更重要是他真的很喜歡這間學校，他曾經是不願意轉校的，所以我相信他必定有愉快的學校生活。
至於對一間新學校來說，他們的安排已是不錯了，當然有其他不足之處，但不像報導般誇張。
這篇新聞又剛巧在小三和小四招生的時間發出，令我覺得很奇怪呢！

:-P

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小心!小心!張校長在簡佈會表明:現在就讀舊小拔
的學生;小四至小六保証有85%可直升中學.而現
在小一至小三將不能升上大拔.即脫

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Dear Parents

I am glad to see the comments posted here.  My personal understanding is that DBSPD is very much like "Dai Cheong Gum" at present.  There are hidden camps and politics that parents do not know about.

There are some who wants to hijack the new school and put it into the hands of those from the old DPS team.  There are some who wants to use DBSPD to give themselves that added coverage to improve their exposure.  There are some who wants to arose controvesy to remove certain senior staff.

I trust that the eyes of parents are crystal clear and my personal views are as follows:

1.  The school is only few months young, I have never expected it to be perfect.  In fact, it scored 85% from my point of view.  A job well done.

2.  Those who complain about the school should leave at once and return to DPS, if they wish.  This is a world of free choice.

3.  The nature of the complaints are insignificant and you can find these issues at any school.

4.  Parents should show support for the school and its present management team in whatever way they can.

5.  Stop putting so much pressure on the school.  Parents should take up responsibilities and at the same time let them get on with their work.

To illustrate my principles, I personally dislike the Chinese curriculum at DBSPD and I do not agree with Cantonese tuition so my son is learning French.  He is now learning Mandarin and simplified Chinese out of school.  I never complained to the school and I just made the choice and voted with my feet.  I still love the school and respect the Headteacher there.

BTW, the threats made by the complaining parents are laughable.  If nothing is done, they will leave.  I understand that there were 40 students fighting for 1 place at DBSPD.  I am sure that the other 39 would be very very happy.

DBBoy

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I deeply believe all DBSPD parents are discerning. I am now taking this opporunity to appeal all trying their best to find out the complant letter concerned and post it, so that we may have a full and clear picture of that allegation and hence rebut it point to pont.

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Ha ha, I like DBBoy's point 2 most - please leave if anyone doesn't like the school! There are hundreds of people who are on the queue!

Also, may I take the liberty of asking DBBoy to draft an encouragment message to school and all parents who would like to show our support may add our names? Hope this is not too much for DBBoy!

Justin2002

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Wether it is a conspricacy or not, I find some of the statements irrational.

"The holdings in the library are not enough."  In what way?  Would you ask a new school library to hold, say, 100,000 items in 2 years' time?  There's even no figure or ratio to support the above statement.

I've heard that some students were asked to 罰企 at the very beginning of the term because they were naughty.  Was it 嚴厲?

I'm not a DBSPD parent, but I think most of the DBPSD parents are knowledgable, even though I've heard a ridiculous affair about some of its parents.

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HuiTung 寫道:
Wether it is a conspricacy or not, I find some of the statements irrational.

"The holdings in the library are not enough."  In what way?  Would you ask a new school library to hold, say, 100,000 items in 2 years' time?  There's even no figure or ratio to support the above statement.

I've heard that some students were asked to 罰企 at the very beginning of the term because they were naughty.  Was it 嚴厲?

I'm not a DBSPD parent, but I think most of the DBPSD parents are knowledgable, even though I've heard a ridiculous affair about some of its parents.

How could their children become when they have such kind of parents?

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

係呀, 唔讀就快d 走啦,
好多人等緊嫁

你們要將一切的憂慮卸給神,
因為祂顧念你們
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(一) 身在福中不知福

DBSPD - 英文授課，用中文教音樂、宗教、體育 (1老師 : 14學生)
喇沙 - 中/英文授課，用中文教音樂、宗教、數學、常識添 (1老師 : 24學生)
St. Paul Co-ed (麥當勞道) - 中文授課 (1老師 : 16學生)
St. Paul Co-ed (堅尼地道) - 中文授課 (1老師 : 17學生)
Maryknoll Convent - 中英文授課 (1老師 : 24學生)
灣仔聖若瑟 - 中英文授課 (1老師 : 25學生)
灣仔番禺華仁 - 中文授課 (1老師 : 28學生)

普遍小學也是中文授課 ; 這樣回看DBSPD的教學，已經超哂班啦 ! ! ! 看看喇沙，唔止音樂+宗教，數學+常識都係用中文教的。

新小拔老師不是全部100%有大學學位，其他名校亦一樣 - 喇沙81%，St. Paul Co-ed (麥當勞道78%)(堅尼地道84%)，灣仔聖若瑟 67%，灣仔番禺華仁 43% (資料來源: EMB小學概覽)

間間學校都有做不到的事情，間間學校都不可能做到[完美]，DBSPD在各方面的表現都已是能人所不能，不是嗎 ? 什麼叫做[二十四宗罪]呢 ? 他們投訴不足的地方，就好似 [雞蛋裏挑骨頭]。

例如學生在小息時亂跑，乜會有一間小學的小學生唔跑咩 ? 小學生個個會跳會跑，仲係男仔添，老師見到就一定有叫學生慢慢行啦。至於[老師「秘撈」經營補習社洩露學校試題]，我就覺得值得嚴查是否屬實啦，免得有唔公平啦。

(二) 待人接物

[老師常罵學生]是要勞心勞氣的，難得有老師肯用心教用勞氣去罵學生，糾正及教導學生，要多謝還來不及呢，難道是皇帝仔唔罵得 ?

如果是係又罵唔係又罵，咪當是一種磨練囉。將來個仔大把機會接觸到，打工又會俾老細話，自己做老細又會受d客仔氣，有錢佬做到尊貴的長官咪一樣俾市民日罵夜罵，咪當早D習慣囉，君不見佢愈被罵愈發達。投訴人不如同個仔一齊反醒下啦，學習適應世界，虛心受教，增加見識、修養同溝通技巧啦

當事人在傷害學校的同時，也正在修害自己的囝囝，他們的不滿，只是反映他們見識淺、修養差、兼身在福中不知福 ; 其情況就好似 [皇仁的報復小霸王] 一樣，那位不受教兼失控的學生在傷害學校的同時，也正在修害自己，他的不滿，只是反映他有問題，他現在仍然覺得自己 [拆皇仁招牌] 做得好好格，到他真正思想長大後才會知道自己做錯，而且做得好錯添!!! 如果他繼續以這種處事方法在社會上搵食，相信都係愈撈愈霉，最終都是傷害自己最多喎!

我就好同情皇仁百年名校收咗一個咁既學生，正如我現在亦好同情DBSPD一樣.... 唉。

(三) 結論

投訴人沒有了解市場的供應貨色去到邊，而DBSPD給的A貨仍未滿足，真是身在福中不知福! ! ! 真的不知邊間學校可以滿足到果班投訴人 ?

要愛我們的孩子，就先要愛孩子的學校；另外，亦要以身作則，教導他們做人處世的溝通技巧，增廣見識，凡事要過得自己過得人。

多做市場調查，先閉門提議再溝通，免得囝囝有樣學樣，不懂得待人接物，令他們長大後無禮貌處處踫壁，傷害自己得罪人，淪落到囝囝在人生路上兜兜轉轉、愈撈愈霉就無謂啦

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十分同意cc99ma既comment.

我本身也是來年的小一家長, 不是要偏幫學校, 不過投訴的家長係咪要檢討一下自己. 有問題而與學校構通才是真正解決問題既態度, 如果學校只會對公開既言論/評擊才正視問題, 咁又係咪家長所希望既呢 ?

最近修讀一個course, 教授講左一件事給我們去分享 :

相信大家都聽過黄埔軍校, 佢地會好似軍訓咁訓練小朋友, 目的是希望鍛鍊佢地守時, 毅力, 不怕解決問題 .....

点知就大把香港家長投訴 : 点解個仔會瘦左 ? 黑左 ? 係咪冇飯食 ? 冇覺訓 .................

於是而家黄埔軍校都怕曬啲香港人. 於是幾是香港的小朋友就唔使繰沙地, 是但跑2個圈就算.

從呢件事, 某程度上家長贏左, 但當我地睇番人地辦校的原意同自己本來想小朋友去學的宝貴經歷的目的, 這無疑是一種諷刺. 而且, 在小朋友眼裏, 學到的就是優悅感. 香港人係寧啥唔同. 又或者聲大啲, 權力大啲, 就可話事 ?

香港父母普遍對孩子的瀝愛巳經泛濫, 孩子巳習慣由父母幫忙去解決問題, 但我們是否每天都跟着他 ?

早前一名在港大讀法律系的學生, 在某些原因下唔想再讀, 但竟然唔敢同學校講, 於是帶左亞媽返去同學校講. 問題冇錯係解決左, 但引申出的問題系佢讀既系法律, 學成係要打官司, 但試問連申請退學都唔敢, 咁邊有能力打官司 ? 点貢獻社會 ? 情况真的令人好憺心.

投訴學校既家長, 可能最後都會得到學校的回應, 但與此同時, 你地既小朋友日後可能有更多的反應. 例如 : 点解唔比工人送飯 ? 点解每日只有2個選擇 ? 總之每日都問点解 ? 唔通日日揾傳媒開會 ?

考呢間學校既時候大家都有一些概念, 点解而家會咁大反應去投訴 ? 大家唔係buy 佢地既教育理念架咩 ?

其實作為DBSPD既家長, 有時都會幾感概. 因為好多人都會覺得呢啲名校既家長, 以為有錢有權, 個個係少爺, 哽係大大聲講野架啦, 個個對眼都生响頭頂, 鍾意比較, 晒命, 又或者學校都只會時時要人捐款, 有財有勢既學生就收, 其實話我地戴有色眼鏡望外面既人, 但外人也是巳對名校有有色眼鏡呢.

唔該大家争氣啲. 我地應該用多啲時間去培育小朋友, 唔好再無無謂謂大炒大鬧, 畢竟只會都小朋友百害而無一利. 社會就係有無限的規距架啦, 如果紀律部隊都係咁, 咁我地既社會會變地点 ? 唔通紀律部隊既規則都條條合理 ?

總之, 如果問題係危害小朋友既就應該反映, 但亦應從家校會溝通. 名門望族唔係應該有內涵, 得體既咩 ??????

請各位DBSPD家長共同努力, 為未來楝樑努力, 樹立好榜樣, 向正面既人生觀.

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Re: 蘋果日報:7000字信狂數新小拔罪狀

Totally agreed cc99ma & civil.

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Civil and CC99ma,

You are RIGHT !

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Dear Civil and cc99ma

Great views and nicely expressed. I take my hat off saluting your great effort (hat only).

No need for me to write further on this issue.

DBBoy

Let's see who is leaving DBSPD!!!!