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教育王國 討論區 備戰大學 為何 大學自資課程冇law和医讀??
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為何 大學自資課程冇law和医讀?? [複製鏈接]

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為何大學自資課程冇law和医讀??要讀就出國,錢俾人賺...如成績合又有心想讀,又有能力,開多幾個課程,好過開D認受性低科目......医科可能有點難,因近來少人死後捐出body來,用動物可解釋,反而獸医就會開,
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Barriers to entry

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There is no self-funding program for MBBS.

However several years before both HKU and CitiU offered self-funding LLB program.


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本帖最後由 smallfoothk 於 13-12-5 23:14 編輯

大學都不笨,一定用資助的教授和器材,還會一起上課....
明報:增學額破壟斷 雙管齊下化解醫生荒                                                                                                                    公立醫院醫生轉為私人執業,導致公立醫院人手短缺的情況日趨嚴重,醫管局文件披露,2010至2016年間,醫管局平均每年短缺33名醫生(約每年公立醫生需求的十分之一),即使增加醫科生名額也遠水難救近火,相關推算還未包括未來陸續落成的公立及私家醫院,再加上近年有大批內地人來港就醫,香港已經出現“醫生荒”,政府必須雙管齊下,其一是增加本地培訓,其二是研究開放醫生執業資格,直接聘請外國名牌大學醫科畢業生來港執業。
  公立醫生不斷“出走” 比奶粉荒更嚴重  醫生荒的癥結,是香港醫療界出現壟斷,並非在香港兩所大學醫學院畢業的醫生,即使在外國名牌大學醫學院畢業,也無法直接來港執業,但其他國家卻“打開門戶”,向香港的醫科生招手。中大醫學院院長霍泰輝指出,新加坡人口僅400萬,遠少於香港的700萬,但醫科畢業生數目卻與香港相同,新加坡還同時承認全世界多間醫科大學,包括香港大學及中文大學的醫科生資格,讓他們免試到新加坡行醫,增加當地醫生人手供應。

  港府與其逃避核心問題,只靠派錢紓解公立醫院醫生的不滿情緒,不如釜底抽薪,打破醫療系統的保護主義,引入更多醫生供應。只有徹底解決醫生長遠供應的問題,方能既照顧本地病人的需要,同時推動賺取外匯的醫療產業,避免出現“醫療版”的奶粉荒 。
如h7xx下医生荒伊院迫爆 入院要等15小時

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本帖最後由 samsam123321 於 14-4-4 11:59 編輯

Del.

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回覆:為何 大學自資課程冇law和医讀

自資醫科?佢就算敢讀,我唔敢睇佢!



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smallfoothk  如自資學生和資助學生一起上課和臨牀,有分別嗎?不過一定要問医生,你是第一次做手術,如是,請病人想一想  發表於 13-12-6 10:26

醒目開學勳章


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引用:首先,你認為政府點解唔加醫科位?政府唔夠

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我估你只是玩嘢,笑吓班既有利益分子。
自資課程多傾向"輕情"學科,不用太多實驗,只要有課室及電腦就搞掂,不用太多資本及技術性投入。

醫科就不同,有不少大山要爬,例如教學醫院,教授,專業評審,臨床訓練,醫療設備,學費都不容易解決!
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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(我估你只是玩嘢,笑吓班既有利益分子。)有一天大家有病,去急症室等上15小時以上,一定(自資課程多傾向"輕情"學科,不用太多實驗,只要有課室及電腦就搞掂,不用太多資本及技術性投入。)明白的

(醫科就不同,有不少大山要爬,例如教學醫院,教授,專業評審,臨床訓練,醫療設備,學費都不容易解決!)  如自資學生和資助學生一起上課和臨牀,有分別嗎?學費可慈善事業人幫手,名人出手等,條件是留港行医....陰謀論政府医生少,因致等待時間多,有能力去私家,咁减少政府在醫療費不斷上升.

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現在6科36分已經好敏水,再低些成績。

難道香港走赤腳醫生之路?

正路是在互認方面,及工時方面作調整較合宜!



God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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引用:+(我估你只是玩嘢,笑吓班既有利益分子。)

原帖由 smallfoothk 於 13-12-06 發表
(我估你只是玩嘢,笑吓班既有利益分子。)有一天大家有病,去急症室等上15小時以上,一定(自資 ...
根本唔係是否一齊上課實習的問題。 如果政府認為需要增加醫生的供應量, 根本不需要學生自費,問題始終在於政府對衛生醫療的長遠規劃。有些科目,不是你有錢就要給你讀的。



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The shortage of supply is mainly due to the wrongful decision of the Medical Council, which I think, is totally wrong.

In or about 2002 or 2003, the deans of both medical schools warned that there would be an acute shortage of supply of doctors and asked the Government to increase the quota of the classes. However, contrary to the advice, the Medical Council insisted that there should be a cut in the quota. It ended up that the quota for each medical school was reduced to an annual intake of 125. It is a shame because of the selfish of the medical profession.

The population in Singapore is about 1/2 of Hong Kong. However, it has 3 medical schools producing about 500 doctors each year. They also welcome the graduates from UK, Australia and Hong Kong to practice there.

In Hong Kong we have about 7.5 million but we only have 320 doctors trained each year until 2019 when Hong Kong would have 420 doctors come into the market. The licentiate examination is just window dressing, In a typical year, the passing rate is around 10%.

Why overseas medical graduates from Australia, UK and other commonwealth countries could practice here before 1997 without any licentiate examination? Is there a drop of standard of other leading medical schools after 1997? The only logical deduction is the medical profession adopts a close-shop policy to protect their self-interest.

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Jackieson  '...the medical profession adopts a close-shop policy to protect their self-interest. ' agree   發表於 13-12-9 13:58
73662710  There are more than 10 thousand Chinese medicine practitioners in hk.  If they are included in the medical system, the patient to doctor ratio is halved.  發表於 13-12-6 21:35

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Your point is valid. I can't see doctors from other Commonwealth countries is lower standard than HK standard.

The number of medical students also driven by manpower planning as regular exercise. The number you quoted are snapshots and look at historical data for over 20-30 years may have different conclusion.

Also evaluate the number of doctors also need to split between public and private, private is oversupply, public is too low. Some professors said not too many are 星球人,private practice is also tough in competition. Some doctors left public and enter private because of family life and other personal reasons, like long working hours and limited promotion chance are their other concerns.



God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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Shootastar 發表於 13-12-6 12:20
The shortage of supply is mainly due to the wrongful decision of the Medical Council, which I think, ...
恐怕有誤會了,醫委會是無權決定醫科收生人數。醫生與人口的比例幾多才理想,大可討論。但急症室等得耐,主要原因不是醫生不夠。解決公私營醫療失衡先啦,這又涉及收費和融資。


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思考:為何女廁總是排長龍?

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本帖最後由 nintendo 於 13-12-8 14:40 編輯

入唔到資助學位,即係唔夠分,未夠班。
點解要開門比 d 未夠班的人自資讀醫?

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smallfoothk    發表於 13-12-8 12:49

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認受性低的科目,係因為佢地真係是是但但,好容易合格。係本身課程自己令到自己認受性低。london u 叫做做得最好,認受性較高,就是因為佢會肥大量唔合要求的學生。

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smallfoothk  thx  發表於 13-12-8 12:48

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No professional bodies to govern, the standards are varied. But some parents always think their kids are capable, eventually, they are not.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
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