單靠學校可否練得一口流利英語? - 英華小學

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兒子有幸入到2nd in,想再向你們請教一下: 我很喜歡YW. 不過YW是中文小學,而我家無菲傭,夫婦倆又不喜歡同兒子講英語,故很想知道假設兒子有幸入到YW,單靠在學校上英文課,他是否可以練得一口流利英語?是否一定要另上英文補習

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(我明白家長不能完全依靠學校,我亦認為自己可教寫,讀,等等, 我只是最關心口語部分,因為我肯定家中無人跟他講英文.)

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My personnal opinion, if we want our son to speak very fluently or like a native, we must either send him to international school or we build up the Eng speaking environement at home.

The eng standard of YW is high (even it is a Chinese School) including the written, comprehension and grammer part . They have Eng class every day. Per week, they will have few classes (I can't recall, let me check his schedule and shall convert to you next week) taught native eng teacher

原帖由 yuengooluk 於 10-11-12 01:47 發表
兒子有幸入到2nd in,想再向你們請教一下: 我很喜歡YW. 不過YW是中文小學,而我家無菲傭,夫婦倆又不喜歡同兒子講英語,故很想知道假設兒子有幸入到YW,單靠在學校上英文課,他是否可以練得一口流利英語?是否一定要另上英 ...

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Hi, yuengooluk, long time no see!

Congrats on your getting 2nd int.  Your elder son is very smart as I understand he gets many 2nd int opportunities.  For us, we have only accepted one offer, plus two 2nd int (including YW).

Your post has provoked some thoughts within me which I would like to share with you.  My parents (and my wife's too) came from the mainland and we were brought up in a family environment where Cantonese was mainly used (plus a little bit of the dialect of our parents).

I agree with the above parent that the environment is very important for getting what you sow.  When I was still a student, I learned English mainly at school (which is a famous gov't school with good track record of science discipline in HKCEE & HKALE, but languages were only so-so).  I also tried to expose myself in more English stuff like listening to pop songs (RTHK), and learned the IPA by myself in order to be able to pronounce words correctly.  This had been a self-motivated thing b'cos I realised the importance of English at that time.

Now, I believe it's a different era for our kids who are exposed to so many sources of infotainment, including different languages.  I am quite sure that many schools (incl. YW) are now run to grasp the new opportunities.  However, I believe even we don't speak much English in the home setting, somehow someday we as parents will speak to them as the kids grow up.

In our case, we try to share different responsibilities: my wife speaks Cantonese while I speak English and PTH.  I think the practice will continue as our son attends P.1 next year.  So far, he is willing to speak the languages.

By looking at the time the post was written, I guess you are very hard-working in P.1-related matters.  Feel free to call us to do more sharing if you want to.

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在未來２，３十年中國是經濟強國。一口流利英語是否很重要呢？在國內有很多外語系學生亦可說一口流利英語。我見過有些國際學校學生可說流利英語，但不懂中文。現在外國人都學中文，我想語言是用來溝通，是否流利並不重要。相反創意與解難才是未來生存之道．．．．．

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Fluency in both languages (English and PTH) is already a requirement in many jobs nowadays. I don't see why it isn't a must for our future generation. That's why CKY (Choi Kai Yau) is so much sought after. People need to communicate effectively and hence the importance of the languages.

Of course, innovation and problem-solving capabilities are all-time life skills to compete in the society, together with leadership, team-building skills, EQ, AQ, FQ, ...., whatever Q you name it.

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I do not intend to argue anything however I think language is used for effective communication. "Fluency" is good but the other skills should be considered as well. In Hong Kong, English is too emphasized when comparing with other areas.

BTW, does CKY show more attention on English training?

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原帖由 ambrose 於 10-11-12 15:45 發表
I do not intend to argue anything ...

Neither do I.

原帖由 ambrose 於 10-11-12 15:45 發表
... I think language is used for effective communication. "Fluency" is good but the other skills should be considered as well....

Very much agreed.

原帖由 ambrose 於 10-11-12 15:45 發表
BTW, does CKY show more attention on English training?

Well, I am not a parent of CKY students. But as I understand, there is no need for the school to "teach" English because the curriculum has provided an ideal language environment and studentsthere naturally are immersed in the two languages (English and PTH).

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I can share with you that the english level of YW is quite high. We have a strong english learning environment for my son since he was very young. I still think YW's english level is not low at all.Of course, you cannot compare it with international schools. From my observation, the children with good language ability are usually come from their daily reading habit and family rather than school only. If you will not provide much english learning environment, it is very unlikely that your son can speak very fluet english.

原帖由 yuengooluk 於 10-11-12 01:47 發表
兒子有幸入到2nd in,想再向你們請教一下: 我很喜歡YW. 不過YW是中文小學,而我家無菲傭,夫婦倆又不喜歡同兒子講英語,故很想知道假設兒子有幸入到YW,單靠在學校上英文課,他是否可以練得一口流利英語?是否一定要另上英 ...

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thx all for the responses.

the answer seems to be NO, which in fact is expected though.

mosesdaddy, long time no see. getting second int. doesn't mean much. getting offer counts instead. hope that we will get some offers next week.

i of course know we'll get what we've sown. i've been trying my best nurturing my child. but husband and i are really reluctant to speak english to him. have you ever read this article on mingpao?

http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=3466047&extra=page%3D1&page=1

we have the same opinion as the authur.

well, i think i need to carefully plan his english learning path.......

[ 本帖最後由 yuengooluk 於 10-11-15 22:32 編輯 ]

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我諗如果想完全靠學校而可以講到一口流利既英文既家長,可能YW真係唔係你杯茶囉.
學校可以完全聽/講英文既時間,只不過最多果一兩個鐘頭.同學間好難要求佢地要響其他時間都用英文傾計,對答.
然後就算佢地真係用英文來傾計,都要睇埋大家講既係咪好先得.全部都係亂講既,咁就算可以講得好快,但係都未必可以講到好既英文.
所以想自己個小朋友學到超勁超流利既英文,亦都唔打算俾學校以外既資源個小朋友既話,我諗就算學校收,都請三思啦!

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發表於 10-11-16 13:07 |只看該作者

Agree!

原帖由 ambrose 於 12-11-2010 14:25 發表
在未來２，３十年中國是經濟強國。一口流利英語是否很重要呢？在國內有很多外語系學生亦可說一口流利英語。我見過有些國際學校學生可說流利英語，但不懂中文。現在外國人都學中文，我想語言是用來溝通，是否流利並不重要。相反創意 ...