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chengcc

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'There are some boats _____ the river. '

Please help!

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jk67jk

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以前有人答過，好似係 "on"，因為係河面上。

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chengcc

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我都是填'on'但被老師交叉，改為'in'?

原文章由 jk67jk 於 08-4-15 15:52 發表
以前有人答過，好似係 "on"，因為係河面上。

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原文章由 chengcc 於 08-4-15 16:53 發表
我都是填'on'但被老師交叉，改為'in'?

話係 "in" 我都聽過。
個arguing point 好似係架船其實有部份沉入了水中。例如講 swimming, 都係 swim in the river, swim in the sea.

究竟點去諗我都唔知嘞！我相信老師啱啩！

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jk67jk

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剛找到點有用資料：

Prepositions with articles and locations
When talking about locations, use at to indicate the general vicinity or area, and in to
indicate inside the building, enclosed area, etc. For example:

at the swimming pool (on site)	in the swimming pool (in the pool itself i.e. in the water)
at the post office/bank (general)	in the post office/bank (inside the building)
at the zoo (visitors, general area)	in the zoo (animals in their cages)
at school	in the classroom

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It should be " in " the river.

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100% sure, IN the river. That is from my old memory in my school life. (while I was being feed as a duck)

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Pls check the dictionary:
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1. Sail on the river
2. Go swimming in the river

There are some boats on the river.
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It should be learned in the primary school.

原文章由 chengcc 於 08-4-15 14:54 發表
'There are some boats _____ the river. '

Please help!

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chengcc

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多謝各位，在網上找到的都是boats 'on' the river 的例子，請問有否boats 'in' the river 的資料？

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jk67jk

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My English is not brilliant, I have been thinking of this for a while.

“River” as a location, we use preposition “in”. So, the sentence is:
There are some boats in the river. <== 意思大約是：在河中有些船隻。

When will we use “on”? I do think that :
The boat is sailing on the river. <== 那船在河上航行。
The boat on the river. <=== 在河上的那隻船。

Hope my thinking is right!

On the web: (amazon.com)
"Janine Hartschorn experiences a nightmare, where she is standing nextto a river in a hellish place. A lone figure beckons to her from his boat in the river. She realizes that she has three silver coins in herhand and that they are her fare towards death. Terrified, she flingsthem into the river and tries to run. But the mud sucks at her."

網上兩個 preposition 都有, 是多與少的差異。
Search result of "in the river" in UK (click)
Search result of "on the river" in UK (click)

[ 本文章最後由 jk67jk 於 08-4-17 10:59 編輯 ]

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jk67jk

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chengcc,

on
is used when the space is considered as a surface, in
when the space is presented as an area:

(refer to picture demostration here )

As such, I can say that both might be correct. You can discuss this point with the teacher and ask her that in case for the next exam/quiz, how to consider that the question is talking about surface or area.

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chengcc,

Some more reference to you, after reading about using of preposition. But, I still cannot get you an answer.

The other prepositions of direction are compounds formed by adding "to" to the corresponding prepositions of location.

The preposition of location determines themeaning of the preposition of direction.

When we add IN + TO we get into: this shows movement toward the interior of something.
Example: He fell into the swimming pool.

Completion of an Action	Position of Subject
The dog jumped in(to) the river.	The dog is in the river.

Therefore, in my view, if we say "There are some boats in the river, we are saying "There are some boats (being put) in(to) the river."

That's all I have!  Hope some great English speaker comes here to adjust me if I am wrong. (Too complicated!  Aaar~)

p.s.  I really thinks that "There are some boats on the river." is more correct, though "in the river" also do.
"in the river" is use for something that its body part mostly enclosed by the water, like "The boy is in the river." , "There are some stones in the river."

[ 本文章最後由 jk67jk 於 08-4-17 11:42 編輯 ]

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jk67jk,
You are so kind and resouceful. Thank You. They refreshed my memory.

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chengcc

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jk67jk

Thanks very much for your detailed explanations and informations. You're really helpful.

原文章由 jk67jk 於 08-4-17 11:31 發表
chengcc,

Some more reference to you, after reading about using of preposition. But, I still cannot get you an answer.

The other prepositions of direction are compounds formed by adding "to" ...