教統局怎樣check報住地址

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住址證明就得啦，政府邊有咁得閒check喎

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sandylaw 寫道:
住址證明就得啦，政府邊有咁得閒check喎

thanks, sandy.

剛問過教統局, 佢話會抽查, 有冇人被查過?查到借地址有咩後果??

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以前, 有人提過. 教統局係會每區random check 2-3%. 主要係叩門, 係吾會有電話通知.
(不過, 我就吾信教統局班人會做嘢; 上次去交form,見到佢地慢條斯理, 得鬼閒閒...就知佢地點做嘢啦)


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Y2KChild 寫道:

Should we go to commit a criminal offence because the chance of being caught is very low?

Should we try to deceive the system when we find the loopholes of the system?

Should we demonstrate to our kids in this way although we have a lot grievance on the Primary School Central Allocation System?

How can we be a good model to our kids and how can we teach our kids the meanings of honest, fairness, justice,....?

I agree with your rationale of being a role model to our kids

but also have to point out that this is not a criminal offence...

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There was a case a few years back. I think the mother has to be put in jail.

EMB found out that case because somebody file an official complain.


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Y2KChild 寫道:

Dear mamamolly,

I think it is a kind of fraudly.

Sometimes, EMB may not really put into legal accusation when they check out the case, but it doesn't mean that this kind of act is not a criminal offence.

If it is not a criminal offence, then what should it be? Please teach me as I really want to know.

Dear Y2KChild,

Please don't be too offensive. I'm on your side. I agree with what you said but I'm just stating out the fact. In 2002, it had been debated whether to make this as a "criminal offence" by enforcing the parents to take a vow with legal bindings when stating their addresses but finally found it to be unjustifiable.

You can refer to the following links for more information:

http://www.dajiyuan.com/b5/2/12/10/n254347.htm

http://www.c4coms.com/tea/1212-25.htm

Although this is not a criminal offence, parents should not do it as it is morally wrong. I also think the authority should put more effort in checking as they have the right to take back the allotted seats if the address is proved to be fraud.


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Y2KChild 寫道:
Dear mamamolly

I am sorry that I am not very good at expressing myself. I have no intention to offence you or any others. I just really want to clarify some legal concepts.

It is not necessary to take a vow with legal bindings in order to make it a criminal offense. Like the case of applying "Grants and Loans" for university studies, or applying "Comprehensive Social Security Assistant" (CSSA), you have no need to take a vow but you are still subject to legal prosecution if you are not providing the true information on your financial situation.

The discussion you mentioned in 2002 was just an effort trying to educate the parents because if the parents are forced to take vow, they would be more serious in supplying information. The proposal was turn down finally because it was economically or financially unjustable but not infer any implication that providing false address information is not a crimianl offense.

I would like to stress that without taking a vow doesn't mean it will not be a criminal offence. In the case if the parents have taken a vow but later found to supply false address for their kids, they will be subject to be charged for two criminal offenses. The first one will be "fraudly" and the second one will be "making a false vow".

Dear Y2KChild,

I'm sorry I may sound stupid as I'm a just a common mom with little legal knowledge. But if what the authority did in 2002 was to educate parents, then they certainly did it with the opposite effect. Their statement "intend to make it a criminal offence" certainly have the impression (to people without sounding legal knowledge) that it is currently not a criminal offence. For education purpose, they can state clearly that it is already a criminal offence and they will reserve the right to prosecute anyone who does it. Instead of doing this, every year, they merely come out to state to the parents that they have the right to cancel the allotted seats if the information provided is found to be inaccurate. Sarcastically, it sounds more like a reminder to the parents that they can "try their luck" without any serious consequence if they are being caught.


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