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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 直資學校「搶走」津小生
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發表於 05-11-24 11:38 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

Fatherofdaughter 寫道:
Just curious , is  judy = judy001 ?

你果然係新會員     

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發表於 05-11-27 00:02 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

如果間間都係Marrynoll 同La Salle就梗係無問題,佢地乜都唔做都有飯食...食老本都可以食至少十幾年...其他的學校就慘....

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1963
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發表於 05-11-27 23:55 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

我估黎緊幾年仲多津小自然流升, 合併 或轉直資.

好多家長揀直上之幼稚園如
培正 宣道  .......

另外的家長 亦  儘量報  十間八間  直資 / 私校

最終 津小  汰弱留強. 未必係壞事

下一步可能係  津中被直資/私校  搶生意

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發表於 05-11-28 00:07 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

怪只怪政府的教改太不濟, 令官津小學無所適從. 加上有d學校亦太過墨守成規, 令好多家長轉投有新理念嘅直資學校.


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發表於 05-11-28 00:26 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生


I have posted the following under another thread, but looking at the discussions here, I should have posted here:


"A lot of BK parents tend to support the concept of direct subsidy schools but few have explored the consequences of these schools' emergence on the ecosystem of HK education. I suspect that this is because a typical BK parent is one who cares a lot about their children's education and thus won't mind paying an affordable sum (to them) for their education. However, in my opinion, direct subsidy has been the worst change introduced by the education reform since 1997.

Direct subsidy schools (DSS) also receive subsidy from the government, but on a per head basis. It's slightly over HK$20,000 a year and can go over HK$30,000 for some secondary schools. If a DSS has no problem in attracting students, it receives more or less the same amount of subsidy as a subsidized or aided school. In other words, for most DSS, adding the annual tuition fee >$20,000 they charge, the resources under their command is more than double of the subsidized or aided schools. At the same time, the constraints imposed on them by EMB are far less stringent. This is a major departure of the government non-intervention policy regarding the private sectior of education. Without the government subsidy, the private schools in Hong Kong have been diminishing since the implementation of 9-year free education policy.

Secondly, the change in banding policy has somehow diluted the quality of students at the traditional elite schools. We have heard a lot about Wah Yan or Kings in this site. Mark my word, without changing to DSS and thus possessing the autonomy of handpicking students, the gradual demise of most traditional elite schools, such as La Salle, St Joseph, Maryknoll, St Stephen's Girls, are doomed. St Paul's Convent changed to DSS last year; I wonder how long other traditional elite schools can hold on to their belief in egalitarian education.

It is already difficult enough to compete with top schools like DB/GS or St Paul's Co-ed, with the direct subsidy policy; other schools simply stand no chance at all to come even closer.

Hong Kong is going back to elitism in education, but in its worst form, one based on the financial background instead of the ability of an individual. We are kissing a sad goodbye to the days in which the upward mobility of our society was encouraged and supported by the education systems.

Are these really what we look forward to seeing?"


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發表於 05-11-28 00:34 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

Agree!

Charlotte_mom 寫道:
"本港最終會走回以往的「有錢人精英教育」" -- 係因為現行"名校世襲學位制", 定係"有錢人就可以隨便搬去富貴地區, 派好學校"呀?!

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1963
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發表於 05-11-28 02:17 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

but this is the FACT !!!

I am not comfortable for my kid in the fair fair
津校

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4747
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發表於 05-11-28 08:47 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

What is the rationale of govt of encouraging DSS?  With the larger resources and flexibility DSS have, they should be able to provide higher quality education and also offer a better alternative to parents who are not satisfied with the lucky draw results.  So DSS should logically be better schools than govt schools in the long run.  Yet now a lot of DSS are new schools and need many years to establish their results.

If those top schools (LS, Maryknoll ) want to maintain their brand and quality, they should need more resources and select their own students.  So they should change to DSS gradually.  After the confirmation of the new language requirement for EMI schools, a lot more famous schools may change to DSS to maintain as one-dragon EMI schools.  It is better for schools and parents that both can select each other rather than vest our fate by luck.

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發表於 05-11-28 09:19 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

   看到竟有家長為著有校長的言論而憤怒,我也有點話要說:不排除現時的學校大都變了質,只考慮收生、考績問責、對外宣傳,完全忽略了教育本身的意義。教育界與商界不同,不應將學生看作商品,更不應將教育看作服務。
   
    但我反而不會怪校長或老師,因我會問他們為甚麼會有這樣的改變,教育界為甚麼又會變成這樣?相信積極推動朝令夕改的教育改革的教統局難辭其咎

   是她一手一腳把商界的理念套於教育界,凡事只著眼眼前短利(但正所謂十年樹木,百年樹人);收不到學生便推卸是學校辦學欠佳,但她卻在出生率下降下,不斷開新校(不是根據人口調查制定所需學校的數量嗎?),死也不肯施行小班教學,學校為免一殺,都各出奇謀,試問老師們忙於宣傳學校,寫報告,還有沒有時間或精力去備課、教好我們的下一代?最終受害的又是誰?

    真希望我們偉大的特區政府真要好好檢討現時教育難攤子,否則我們的下一代真不知怎算。
   


在另一題中,見此奇文,我想,如果此代表了大部份津校或津校家長之見解,咁選津校就要小心了,最好立即轉到直資私校。

中英數,不上學都可以識,但為佐學中英數,品行唔好就唔抵喇。

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發表於 05-11-28 09:40 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

我覺得如果一間學校嘅校長係為咗攪宣傳而忽略咗教學嘅本意, 咁佢自己都要負好大嘅責任.  教改無疑係令好多學校無所適從, 但作為一間學校嘅校長(CEO), 應該懂得資源分配, 唔應該用老師嘅時間去做太多非教學上嘅宣傳.  我認識有一間屋村小學嘅校長, 佢係呢方面做得好好, 有一D煩瑣嘅工序佢地都外判出去比商界嘅公司做, 雖然係金錢上佢地付出多咗但就令老師有多D時間處理教學上嘅野.


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發表於 05-11-28 11:30 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

Dear WYmom

Like you, I believe that more and more traditional elite schools will change to DSS. Besides, I also believe that a majority of BK parents wouldn't mind paying an affordable sum to ensure their children receive a better education. And in the long run, a majority of DSS will be better schools than non-DSS.

But then, we would have a system that good education only comes by with money. Don't foreget, we have more than 60% of our population living in public estates. The beauty of old system is that a student from a 屋邨小學 with an aptitude for academic development would be picked up by the 學能測驗 and sent to a top secondary school like DB/GS without the school knowing who they are taking and without the student or the student's "牛頭角順嫂" mother knowing what DB/GS is. I have a suspicion that 黄仁龍's father wouldn't know too much about Queen's when his kid was picked by the system.

Don't kid me with the scholarships DSS would offer to less privileged kids. Without a public exam, secondary schools can only judge students by the student's primary school result and the interview performance. Do you think the top schools would take the report card or even the principal's recommendation from a 屋邨小學 more serious than one from , say, St Paul's Convent? What is the chance that a kid from a 屋邨小學, in his/her Giordano and limited spoken English can beat a middle-class kid, in his Burberry and fluent English, in the admission interview?

I remembered that when my elder daughter attended the kindergarten admission interview of St Paul's Convent more than 10 years ago, in the form we had to fill in the non-relevant (to me) details of parents' occupation (for that I filled in "employed" against my wife's objection). We were also asked some questions which seemed to me probing questions into our family background rather than the aptitude of the kid. I couldn’t help answering their questions in a condescending way which somehow embarrassed both sides.

The DSS system does give parents a greater autonomy in choosing schools, but it is only the AFFORDABLE parents who can enjoy this autonomy. Don’t mistake this as 學券制. It's not.

Our society is already biased towards the affluent, do we really want to foster this further in our education system.


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發表於 05-11-28 12:46 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

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發表於 05-11-28 14:15 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

Uncleedward,

What you said is true.  In the past schools accept kids only based on academic results from public exam, and develop students by elitism. Now the whole direction of education has changed, people want to lift up the pressure of public examination and elitism, so introduce one-dragon and equalism by lucky draw and 9 year free education.  So the consequence is, we will have an average standard of students from public system, and more elities from private/ DSS.  So give and take. It is impossible to go back la.  What can we do?  Try to make more and more money to afford paying more and more...十分無奈!

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發表於 05-11-29 13:14 |只看該作者

Re: 直資學校「搶走」津小生

G-Ma 寫道:
我覺得如果一間學校嘅校長係為咗攪宣傳而忽略咗教學嘅本意, 咁佢自己都要負好大嘅責任.  教改無疑係令好多學校無所適從, 但作為一間學校嘅校長(CEO), 應該懂得資源分配, 唔應該用老師嘅時間去做太多非教學上嘅宣傳.  我認識有一間屋村小學嘅校長, 佢係呢方面做得好好, 有一D煩瑣嘅工序佢地都外判出去比商界嘅公司做, 雖然係金錢上佢地付出多咗但就令老師有多D時間處理教學上嘅野.


可以話我知 (或pm) 係邊間嗎? 想參考一下~
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