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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls
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發表於 05-11-2 00:51 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

講到HKUGA之題目,年年都0甘火爆,梗有d野既
通常係新會員問,跟住就會有個人出黎勁撐,記得去年都一樣,唔知各位有否同感呢?

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發表於 05-11-2 00:59 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

我唔知喎,上BK咁多年從沒入過HKUGA既topic,
今次都是見到SSGC才入來呢。
我仔幼稚園時都無咩人選呢間HKUGA,所以了解唔多囉,
但識太多St. Stephen's既女仔,個個都真的很優秀,
最重要係真的個個很有修養。


july2005 寫道:
講到HKUGA之題目,年年都0甘火爆,梗有d野既
通常係新會員問,跟住就會有個人出黎勁撐,記得去年都一樣,唔知各位有否同感呢?

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發表於 05-11-2 01:20 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

絕對認同修養對小朋友很重要,歷史悠久之學校一定有佢獨特之敎學經驗,新校就會較急進,希望一日千里,無可厚非,最怕欲速不達,適得其反

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發表於 05-11-2 02:53 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

漢唐盛勢時,恐怕美州仍是蠻夷之地;恐龍統治地球時,人類還未出現,但現在…

『歷史悠久』恐怕只是記錄光輝的過去,能否繼往開來?木宰羊。

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發表於 05-11-2 08:23 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

"Well, St Paul Co-ed primary is recruiting a new headmaster next year, so I hope it has nothing to do with the ability of the existing principal whom you said was a graduate of St Stephen Girls."


motheroffour,

I believe that St Paul Co-ed's looking for a new principal is due to the fact that the 2 schools will be moving to the new campus.  The 2 principals currently heading the 2 schools will still remain in the new school and perform other administrative tasks.  I don't believe it is due to capabilities or previous schools they have studied in.

    


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發表於 05-11-2 09:28 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls


Dear Motheroffour

麟媽媽 more or less has listed out the reasons why I don’t like SPCS’s location. I may be opinionated, but definitely not arbitrary. We all like or dislike something with a reason. Some people prefer to live in the city center while others prefer to live in the suburb. There is certainly to need to describe people holding different opinions as apes. Can you call me biased? Yes, but arbitrary? No.

We are all opinionated people; otherwise this world will be much more boring. But opinions still have to be based on facts. I checked all the posts and I still see the following:

It is certainly you who started the discussion on SPCS and Wah Yan and then asked others not to compare schools.  

It is certainly you who “boasted” (I borrow this word from your reply to eva222 although I normally consider this word too strong) that your son “who is in HKUGA PS has sights on the Ivy League universities” and then turned around told us “… never relate old with good, unless you are talking about wine, ginger or chan pei.” However, Ivy League universities refer to 8 oldest private universities in the US, The youngest one, Columbia University, was found 1754. Ivy League schools exactly are the symbols of history and tradition.

It is certainly you who considered SPCS a good school because it is “the breeding ground of future CEs, CSAs,” before people pointed it out SPCS is not the alma mater of SPCS.

It is certainly you who described the celebrities from SSGC as all failures and then asked others not to quote names.

I do agree to some of your points (for example, old does not necessarily mean good) but I am just trying to make the point that the reason why I consider you as an interesting character is that you have kept on contradicting yourself here and there.

Please let me know any of the above is unfounded.

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發表於 05-11-2 10:02 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

Dear uncleedward,

You are now an opinionated, biased yet still arbitrary person.

I am busy at the moment planning the assignments of the day for my four kids. THis evening when I will be free, I will tell you how arbitrary you are. Perhaps one more description fits you better, you are stigmatised and stereotyped.

Talk to you later. I don't have the time for you right now.



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發表於 05-11-2 22:09 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

Dear UncleEdward,

You asked for it and here you go.

You ­did not tell the TRUTH:

(1)Though you lied openly about what I had written, I called you an arbitrary person instead of a liar, just to be modest. I have never written that "HKUGAPS and St Stephens Girls (SSGC) are not as good as St Paul's Convent and Wah Yan because the latter two have produced Anson Chan & Donald Tsang."

(2)This was what I wrote: "They (HKUGAPS an St Stephen Girls) are both the same in that there are no existing famous government officials who were graduates of these schools. If you wish your child to be a famous high ranking government official, you may wish to consider St Paul's Convent or Wah Yan, where two of my kids are studying. My kid who is in HKUGA PS has sights on the Ivy Leaque universities. So it all depends on what plans you have for your kid.”

(3)I also wrote "There is no doubt about the quality of these two schools (Wah Yan and St Paul's Convent), they are the breeding ground of future CEs, CSAs. So be open about it. There is no need to quote names in order to show how good your alma mater (St Stephen's Girls) was. What a child needs is all round education and a good school that suits your child."

(4)You said that “It is certainly you who described the celebrities from SSGC as all failures and then asked others not to quote names." Again you lied. It was some parents who first quoted the names of Fan Tai, Yip Lau and Rosanna Wong to support that St Stephen's Girls was known to have produced these famous leaders in order to support their belief that the school is famous. Then I pointed out how these characters failed. I then asked these parents to stop quoting names, which did not help the reputation of St Stephen Girls. I just wanted to protect St Stephen Girls from being unfairly quoted as the school which produced infamous characters.

You will LEARN what “Boasting”and “Contradiction” mean.

(1)You said that I boasted because I wrote “my son who is in HKUGAPS has sights on the Ivy Leaque universities”. This is not boasting. Read carefully. It was my son who has sights on the Ivy Leaque universities and not me. He was inspired by his dad who was a graduate of the Ivy Leaque. So it is my son who has the breadth of vision to follow suit of what his dad did. So why do you want to trampede my son's wishes. He is seven and how old are you?

(2) On the contrary, I found it miserable for you to have written “I like old universities but I will be quite happy if my daughters can study at Stanford or MIT, which cannot attract Motheroffour since they are not Ivy League schools.” Uncleedward, if your daughters can make it and want to make it, by all means go ahead. What you will be quite happy about will not be quite happy to your daughters. As I said, be open about your kids' education and do whatever suits them best. Old is not the equivalent of good.

(3) You said that I had kept contradicting myself here and there. Contradiction means, in simple terms, you said something which does not match what you said earlier about the same thing. I had been consistent in my views. Interestingly, the word “contradiction”has found its roots in your other messages to other parents on other topics. See what you said on 26 October 2005 to Ginger Ginger in the topic about St Louis School “Your (gingerginger) comment about Kau Yan and your comment that there are no good subsidiary primary schools at all in this net seem to contradict each other. If you are after a school with good allocation for F1, St Peter’s or King’s Old Boys could be considered.”


To those who ACCLAIMED you:

So&So – You said 『不過若有人歪曲事實, 企圖誤導大眾, 大家亦有責任指出, 以正視聽”. This is what I have done to uncleedward. You need not thank me, thank uncleedward only.

Wunma – You said “有嗌交咩? 唔覺. 係有人唔好脾氣, 接受唔到人地指出佢既錯處. Uncleedward一直都好客氣咁係道討論. But did you notice that uncleeward said this very impolitely, in his message “I don’t think there are too many people who will take her (referring to me) remarks seriously.” Make sure your child knows the meaning of politeness. It does not matter if you do not know the meaning. Our future is in the hands of the kids.

EVA222 – This is the true meaning of boasting “我囡係到中學畢業,多數同學都上到大學,讀醫科都有十幾個,入到外國著名大學都唔少,我囡現在美國Umich密歇根大學工程學院就讀.”

July2005 – You said “絕對認同修養對小朋友很重要,歷史悠久之學校一定有佢獨特之敎學經驗』Again, you fell into the pitfall that old is good. You are as stereotypical as uncleedward. You may have known that three of my kids are studying in very very very old and famous school, but luckily they are very very very good schools. You may even be very very very jealous to learn that my fourth kid is studying in a very very very new school but lucikly is also a very very very good school. My kids have the benefits of all the best education that most parents wanted – you can't complain.

July 2005 – You said “講到HKUGA之題目,年年都0甘火爆,梗有d野既, 通常係新會員問,跟住就會有個人出黎勁撐』What happened was, a parent knows that HKUGAPS and St Stephen Girls are as good as each other. In order to make the right choice, so he/she asked, which is better? There is no conspiracy. To suit your suspicious personality, perhaps you could ask your parents if you were born out of their wedlock or if you were born out of a piece of stone.

Now, the FACTS

In these few years, traditional famous schools are under great pressure in getting the best students because each year a lot of good students went to new schools like HKUGAPS and other DSS schools with new philosophies. Each year, the applicants applying for these DSS schools exceeded the number applying for these traditional schools. So the schools wanted to change to adapt to this modern world. But what happened? The parents resisted because most of them think the same as uncleedward or July 2005, old must be good.

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發表於 05-11-2 23:58 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

   I agree what Charlotte_mom said "大家都有大家既point, 人人都可以講野, 但攪到要罵戰, 就無晒意思 ...."

   How about the discripline of HKUGA students?  From some slides (powerpoint) they provided in the interview days, the students no need sit properly in the classroom.  Also, one student studying there told my friend that if they noisy, teachers will not tell them keep quiet.  They are happy because they have enough free in school.  Maybe, HKUGA not spot on "this", I don't know.  

   Anyway, I am not come here 罵戰.  I just want to share about HKUGA.  Also, my point is "Discripline also important for a kid" no matter which type of school because it will affect the children future. Oh, it is only my point.

   If HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls, I will choose St. Stephens Girls.  But it doesn't mean HKUGA not good.  It is good but not suitable for my kid.

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發表於 05-11-3 00:07 |只看該作者

Re: HKUGA vs. St. Stephens Girls

為免傷和氣, 這個討論將會被鎖上, 請各位家長互相尊重, 討論要和氣.

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