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manning2014 發表於 15-11-24 12:48 
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Yes, I will also look at selective school as another option. But what concern m ...
It is very competitive. The top ones like James Ruse, Baulkham Hills, Sydney Boys, Sydney Girls, North Sydney girls, North Sydney Boys, Hornsby Girls, Fort Street traditionally are packed with Asians, there is a so call "WHITE FLIGHT" i.e. no Australian White family will send their kids to selective high school because it's mono-culture. In James Ruse, it's seriously all Asian, (Indian, Chinese, Taiwanese, Hk, Korean) If you are white aussie, you are definitely the minority. But you know some Australian white parents have no choice, they cannot avoid private schools at all due to the secondary school tuition fee being well over $20,000 for the top schools.
Read these articles:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/students-sit-selective-high-schools-test-after-months-of-study-20150312-141vxo.html
http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/testing-times-selective-schools-and-tiger-parents-20150108-12kecw.html
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/cheating-endemic-in-nsw-high-schools-20150507-ggw8h9.html
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/cheating-endemic-in-nsw-high-schools-20150507-ggw8h9.html
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/selective-high-schools-should-let-in-local-students-insists-mayor-20130222-2ewyq.html
Within the Sydney Morning Herald you can go to the education section: http://www.smh.com.au/national/education. Lots of articles that talks about private vs public schools and public selective high schools.
Carlingford High vs James Ruse, that is not a fair comparison. James Ruse recruits the top students with high pressure, I had quite acquaintances from Uni attending, all Chinese or HK background etc, obviously it's a "PRESSURE COOKER" no time to relax, I think they study extremely hard and the student apply pressure to themselves, they are book worms, geekier etc, less sports, music etc. I mean it is 95% Asian almost. They churn out students doing, law, medicine, finance, honour programs etc etc. They have a lot of tiger mums. Carlingford high, I didn't know anyone attending, I just think that school performs as well because a lot of Asian kids go there too. It is really the extra coaching etc that assist a lot more in the end. Carlingford or James Ruse is more considered in the West. Friends who attended Ruse all mention it is EXTREMELY competitive, and that never stops, but I imagine some kids enjoy it? But I wouldn't want my kids to go unless I know they are naturally talented, if he/she had to be coached to get the scores initially, what's the point, it means he/she never learnt how to think for themselves, they will fail at tertiary education level.
Sydney Boys High, also knew a bunch of boys there too, it is one of the only public high school selective or not that was a part of the GPS system. GPS is a group of mostly private all boys schools that play in sports together (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At ... _of_New_South_Wales). As such Sydney Boys, as such they mix in with the private school kids. They have more clout so to speak. Also the schools have a lot of Asians etc, but because it is in the middle of Sydney, Surry Hills, it is in a place where kids from all over Sydney north, east, west, south will attend so the cultural/ethnic diversity is relatively better. But for a bunch of boys that I knew, back in the graduating class of 2002, out of the 10 boys in that group, only 1 was white. So Sydney Boys is considered to make good connections as they play sports with the private school boys.
But all kids that attend the selective highs are bananas anyways, Asian on the outside, quite white on the inside, they are not different to White Australians. I attended Pymble and I am more "fob" like, a term that means you are more Asian like. This is just due to my personal interests. The kids who attend these schools who driven parents that wants the best education academically for their child. If you do intend to do Law/Medicine, highly ranked ATAR school (i.e. most difficult courses) you will find there were always be more selective high school, private school kids. In all honesty, I think back in my days, graduating in 2002, I think getting a high UAI (it was called UAI before it was called ATAR), I studied humanties more, I was one of the Asian kids who were dumb at maths. I studied English Advanced, Maths (2 Units), Geography, Modern History, History Extension and Economics, I only did 11 units. The HSC counts 10 units, so a lot of students actually study 12 units so they have a spare subject, as most subjects are compose of 2 units as an "insurance" for just in case. In the end, I got 94.6. I didn't even get all 90s in my subjects, I did terrible in Maths, even a 79. In Australia, at the end of the day, majority of students DO NOT focus too much on studying because there are always enough university places generally, but for the popular courses you have to study harder. If you are Asian, you will likely to study harder via coaching etc. The advantage of going to a more academic school within the HSC level is that, you sit in HSC twice in year 12, once internally with papers set by the school and another time at a public seating. For my school, our papers were pretty hard internally, like getting a 80 was equivalent of the student getting a 90 in the public exam seating so the scaling occurred a lot.
But I think at the end, I got spoon fed a lot in high school and lacked discipline to self study and attain knowledge. I struggled at tertiary education level you know. For kids, if they generally solely focus on humanities whereby exams can be aced via pure rote learning, I think you definitely don't do as well in tertiary education. Yet if you did science/ maths subjects, you will do a lot better as you taught to problem solve. Being disciplined, goal driven and discovering your talents are as important as academic success. Some of the top students at universities are very well rounded individuals that do well at sports, music, arts, drama, volunteer work, active leaders as well as scholars, look at those student profiles and you will see what I mean. Life isn't only just about academic success, it should be far more than that.
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