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樓主: hotdogpapa	go 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？ [複製鏈接]

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dear virgokaren,

根據學校給我們的資料，今年教署要求band one學校（尤其是英中）減學額，是基於出生率下降，會導至有學校收生不足。基於此便要求那些熱門學校減位，使各學校收生較為平均。亦因此今年較難選擇30間學校。

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Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

九龍城本區少些很多英中位,雖然沙田區幫補番些少,但計落條數仍然少了約五十個位,加上考生多了100人(BAND ONE),在此消彼長下,今年的確無去年咁好景啦!

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1. 傻傻地把2005年九龍城區英中學額全加起來, 結果: 直屬或聯繫學額943個, 非保留學額1319個, 共2262個(非2182!). 換言之, 若非直屬或聯繫小學的直升學生, 此區實際入英中機會是(6466-943)/1319 = 4.19.但要假設此區申請人數是6466人.
2. 但此區申請人數真的是6466人嗎? 打電話問教統, 竟答沒有公佈每區申請人數! 那麼6466人從何而來?我猜是生果報把每區小學就讀人數加起來; 如果是的話, 便沒有計算轉區生, 而幾可肯定九龍城這名校區轉入生比轉出生多, 所以非直屬聯繫生實際入英中比率更大於4.19, 即更遠高於3, 換句話, 此區band 1生入英中并非絕對, 有最少(4.19-3)/4.19=28%的非直屬band 1生入不到英中,是有些風險啊!
3. 如按2004年中中學額2,905個和英中非保留學額1,520個推算出2.911比率(1520/4425)也不對，因為總學額不等如申請人數, 明顯地, 九龍城區申請人數(>6400)比總學額多(英中約2200+中中約3000). 有些band 3 生可能會被派往他網.
4. 雖然數據仍不足, 但似乎九龍城《band 1生可大膽選校》不成立！
5. 博唔博自己決定.犬兒幾年後才升中, 今年無這個煩惱

: 恕我多言了.

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發表於 05-5-6 08:38 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

yuma and youma,

Agree with both your analysis. As more and more EMI schools change to DSS in future, e.g. MCS and LS may change in 2007, plus the change of policy and reducing EMI schools 學額, it will be more difficult to enter EMI schools in 2nd round. Yet chances in 1st round may increase??

Hope the new policy change regarding banding and secondary school allocation can really be implemented by 2007 la. (It's my daughter's turn!)

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發表於 05-5-6 14:06 |只看該作者

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WYmom,

<<<As more and more EMI schools change to DSS in future, e.g. MCS and LS may change in 2007>>>

May I know what's the source of your news 'cos it's my younger daughter's turn.

Many thanks,
stmummy

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發表於 05-5-6 14:23 |只看該作者

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stmummy,

I heard this news from some BK moms at MCS previously. This may be rumours, but it can be true depending on how the new system of EMI schools will be implemented next year.

In fact I prefer these top schools to change into DSS just like DGS/DBS so that at least our kids can have a larger chance to get in.

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youma ：

哈哈．．．數據好厲害！

不如各位BK輕鬆一下...計一條簡單

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發表於 05-5-6 17:24 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

梗係你個囡囡問你嘅數學題，你唔識，就詐詐帝帝post上黎話考人…..哈哈！我心目中諗到個答案，等你聽日開估！

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發表於 05-5-7 13:19 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

[size=medium]答案：100元！
估中嗎？

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hotdogpapa,

我唔同意係100蚊喎! 假設鞋的成本係40蚊, 他賣60蚊

100蚊只是老闆額外賠給熱狗的, 還有老闆入貨的成本40及及少賺的20呢!

故此, 我覺得是100 + 60

不對嗎?

sheila

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bingo

hotdogpapa 寫道:
[size=medium]答案：100元！
估中嗎？

***靚湯送暖***

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發表於 05-5-9 12:42 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

hotdogpapa 寫道:
[size=medium]答案：100元！
估中嗎？

點解唔係$200?

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發表於 05-5-9 12:57 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

我都係估$200播

mccmom 寫道:
[quote]
hotdogpapa 寫道:
[size=medium]答案：100元！
估中嗎？

點解唔係$200?

[/quote]

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發表於 05-5-9 14:54 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

實情係老闆損失 :
價值 HKD60.00 的一對鞋加 HKD40.00 現金 = HKD100大元

首先老闆拿那假的１００元向熱狗唱了十張十蚊紙,自己 keep HKD60.00, HKD40給了騙子, 再之後歸還HKD100.00給熱狗. 即係老闆需要多付現金HKD40.00元 lor.

***靚湯送暖***

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發表於 05-5-9 17:25 |只看該作者

Re: 人口大減，band 1生可大膽選校？

哈哈...放心…估140元、160元、200元雖然是錯，但也屬正常！(反而littlelamb太聰明了…有點不太正常，講笑咋！)

因為我們計算時，習慣性將損失一一加起來：
老闆自己荷包拿了一張100元給熱狗..
老闆對鞋成本…(60元)
老闆找了40元給騙子
***好易答200元！

其實好似打麻雀咁，邊個輸左幾多，另一個就贏左幾多！(另外兩個打和...)：

“熱狗”先失去一百元…後老闆願意換回假鈔，沒輸冇贏=0元！
騙子騙了一對鞋(60元)及40元=贏 100元！
老闆蝕左一對鞋帶(60元)及40元=輸100元！

都係唔服氣？唔緊要，今晚搵埋仔仔、囡囡、老公…玩下找錢遊戲，聽日上

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dear hotdogpapa,

I've checked the information provided in the Secondary School Places Allocation 2003/2005 Net K3 again. I would like to bring out the following points for discussion:
1. The no. of feeder or nominated places is 1040.
Among these places, some are from Chinese secondary schools while some are from band two schools.
2. Not all English schools are band one schools.
3. Those with feeder schools will accept both band 1 & 2 students from their primary section.
4. The percentage of band one students is always about fifty to sixty something in feeder schools. An example is my son's school which has about 140~150(63%)band 1 students. The secondary school allocated 179 feeder places and so the rest will be allocated to band 2 students in the school. Thus your assumption "估計當中平均85%又是屬於band 1的(是保守估…)…943*85%" need some adjustment.
5. Some band one students from feeder schools(? band two or not EMI) may give up the feeder places & choose other better secondary schools.

The fact is that the no. of places provided by band one schools in the net is decreased significantly. On the other hand, more places from English secondary schools which are DSS or newly established but not band one are put into K3 net. As a result, the no. of places from English secondary schools seems to be maintained at a reasonable level that could meet the demand. But the fact is not. We should study all the schools carefully and the true figure of places offered by the Band One secondary schools.

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WYmom 寫道:
yuma and youma,

Agree with both your analysis. As more and more EMI schools change to DSS in future, e.g. MCS and LS may change in 2007, plus the change of policy and reducing EMI schools 學額, it will be more difficult to enter EMI schools in 2nd round. Yet chances in 1st round may increase??

Hope the new policy change regarding banding and secondary school allocation can really be implemented by 2007 la. (It's my daughter's turn!)

Agree with your view. But the competition would be very keen. Work hard!

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Hotdogpapa,

無疑你用實數計算較為精確和易明, 但我沒有迷惑人!

See below: (Sorry, I type faster in English)

1. The question 1 is: how much percentage in the 943 are band 1 students? Under my calculation, an arbitrary percentage of 33% (yes, it may be underestimated) is assumed. Under your calculation, 72.25% is used (85%x85% = 72.25%, but it looks overestimated, as you can guess the dream school Yuma's is studying and it has 63% band 1). If you adopt my assumed 33%, your answer will become the same as mine of 1319/(2155-943x33%) =72%, i.e. still 28% of band 1 students cannot enter English schools!. You see - our difference is merely the assumption!

2. The question 2 is: Among the 5,000 students across district, how many (net) band 1 students are transferring into Kowloon City? Surely not a small number – bear in mind Kowloon City is an appealing school net. Even if only 500 band 1 students transferring, the successful percentage will become 67% [1319/(1474+500) based on your assumptions]. That means 33% of band 1 students cannot enter into Eng schools in this district! If there are 1,000 transferors, only 53% succeeds! Very risky! So, the number of transferors into Kowloon City can be a very critical determinant – that's why I said “未必!” on day 1.

至於鞋店老闆損失多少?
我的答案: 鞋的成本(不會是60元吧!無錢賺?)+40元.
小兒答案: 沒有損失, 因為警察叔叔一定捉到賊人, 追回100元.
請問有無分?有無獎?

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yuma/youma ：

大家見解不同，有時間再討論！

p.s.請問有無分?有無獎?→→值得飲杯！

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