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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 五名英中求押後結龍限期
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發表於 05-4-23 13:19 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

見Philip 抄書抄得咁開心,我又抄一段:奥朗澤布致沙黑書。奥朗澤布是一國王,沙黑曾是他的老師,本函是奥朗澤布就沙黑向他求取報酬之回覆。

What is it you would have of me, Doctor? Can you reasonably desire that I should make you one of the chief omrahs of my court? Let me tell you, if you had instructed me as you should have done, nothing would be more just; for I am of this persuasion, that a child well educated and instructed is as much, at least, obliged to his master as to his father.

But where are those good documents you have given me? …

I have scared learned of you the name of my grandsires, the famous founders of the empire; so far were you from having taught me the history of their life, and what course they took to make such great conquest.

You had a mind to teach me the Arabian tongue, to read and to write. I am much obliged, forsooth, for having made me lose so much time upon language that requires ten or twelve years to attain to its perfection; as if the son of the king should think it to be an honor to him to be a grammarian or some doctor of the law, and to learn other language than of his neighbors when he can well be without them; he, to whom time is so precious for so many weighty things, which the ought by times to learn. As if there were any spirit that did not with some reluctancy, and even with a kind of debasement, employ itself in so sad and dry an exercise, so longsome and tedious as is that of learning words.

Know you not that childhood well governed, being a state which is ordinary accompanied with happy memory, is capable of thousands of good precepts and instructions, which remain deeply impressed the whole remainder of man’s life, and keep the mind always raised for great actions? The law, prayers and sciences, may they not as well be learned in mother tongue as in Arabick? You told my father Shah Jehan that you would teach me philosophy. ‘Tis true, I remember very well, that you have entertained me for many years with airy questions of things that afford no satisfaction at all to the mind and are of no use in human society, empty notions and mere fancies, that have only this in them, that they are very hard to understand and very easy to forget…

If you had seasoned me with the philosophy which formeth the mind to ratiocination, and insensibly accustoms it to be satisfied with nothing but solid reasons; if you had given me those excellent precepts and doctrines which raise the soul above the assaults of fortune, and reduce her to an unshakeable and always equal temper, and permit her not to be lifted up by prosperity nor debased by adversity; if you had taken care to give me the knowledge of what we are and what are the first principles of things, and had assisted me in forming in my mind a fit idea of greatness of the universe, and of the admirable order and motion of the parts thereof; if, I say, you had instilled into me this kind of philosophy, I should think myself incomparably more obliged to you than Alexander was to his Aristotle, and believe it may duty to recompense you otherwise than he did him…

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Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

見Philip 抄書抄得咁開心,我又抄一段:奥朗澤布致沙黑書。奥朗澤布是一國王,沙黑曾是他的老師,本函是奥朗澤布就沙黑向他求取報酬之回覆。

What is it you would have of me, Doctor? Can you reasonably desire that I should make you one of the chief omrahs of my court? Let me tell you, if you had instructed me as you should have done, nothing would be more just; for I am of this persuasion, that a child well educated and instructed is as much, at least, obliged to his master as to his father.

But where are those good documents you have given me? …

I have scared learned of you the name of my grandsires, the famous founders of the empire; so far were you from having taught me the history of their life, and what course they took to make such great conquest.

You had a mind to teach me the Arabian tongue, to read and to write. I am much obliged, forsooth, for having made me lose so much time upon language that requires ten or twelve years to attain to its perfection; as if the son of the king should think it to be an honor to him to be a grammarian or some doctor of the law, and to learn other language than of his neighbors when he can well be without them; he, to whom time is so precious for so many weighty things, which the ought by times to learn. As if there were any spirit that did not with some reluctancy, and even with a kind of debasement, employ itself in so sad and dry an exercise, so longsome and tedious as is that of learning words.

Know you not that childhood well governed, being a state which is ordinary accompanied with happy memory, is capable of thousands of good precepts and instructions, which remain deeply impressed the whole remainder of man’s life, and keep the mind always raised for great actions? The law, prayers and sciences, may they not as well be learned in mother tongue as in Arabick? You told my father Shah Jehan that you would teach me philosophy. ‘Tis true, I remember very well, that you have entertained me for many years with airy questions of things that afford no satisfaction at all to the mind and are of no use in human society, empty notions and mere fancies, that have only this in them, that they are very hard to understand and very easy to forget…

If you had seasoned me with the philosophy which formeth the mind to ratiocination, and insensibly accustoms it to be satisfied with nothing but solid reasons; if you had given me those excellent precepts and doctrines which raise the soul above the assaults of fortune, and reduce her to an unshakeable and always equal temper, and permit her not to be lifted up by prosperity nor debased by adversity; if you had taken care to give me the knowledge of what we are and what are the first principles of things, and had assisted me in forming in my mind a fit idea of greatness of the universe, and of the admirable order and motion of the parts thereof; if, I say, you had instilled into me this kind of philosophy, I should think myself incomparably more obliged to you than Alexander was to his Aristotle, and believe it may duty to recompense you otherwise than he did him…

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發表於 05-4-23 15:42 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

BillyM 寫道:
有時我真的不知道為何全香港的學生及家長在教學語言上沒有發言權。永遠只得田北辰惡形惡相上電視,可時家長才有say?

我對田二少已到達無法忍受的地步,他說所有的意見是嘈音,又說寧願得罪全部學生家長,都要實行母語教學。當記者問他為何讓子女讀英文學校,他竟然厚顏到話有些後悔。曾特首,可否救救小朋友們?


Yes, agree with you, I can't see any sincerity from Mr. Tien, he just say "trust me", and it is so ridiculous that he regret to send his kids to EMI schools!!!

I will support the proposal of bilingual teaching in all secondary schools, with increasing % of using English from F.1 to F.5.  EMB can set limit and restrict the use of English to certain subjects, and also set the standard required for the teachers.  So there won't be any labelling of EMI schools.

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發表於 05-4-23 18:51 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

我最唔明白的是 :

1. 用中英數三科去決定教學語言,    
  
2. 田先生不是教育界, 他勝任出言嗎   
3. 教改, 幾年一次, 成日要學校, 學校, 老師, 父母, 學生陪跑 都唔知為何 ??????????

好煩的政策 ................      

rr

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發表於 05-4-24 01:01 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

要政府少理,只有一途,走學卷制道路,將學校之資訊全部透明,這樣,家長可理智的選校,辦得不好之學校要執,冇得示威抗議。聽說(聽說而己)6,70年代私校盛行之時,英文中學佔全港不到一半,後来津校多了,才變成9成幾的所謂英文中學。是甚麼原因,不知有冇人可話我聽呢?


對,何不實行學券制?我第一個支持。還家長選擇權,才是正途。

今天我的意見是嘈音,是因為我對這個政府沒有監察權。明天政策改變時,你的意見亦會是嘈音,因為你也沒有監察權。我想要的是一個用家(即是家長、學生、教師)也有say的制度,不再一言堂,田少喜歡便喜歡。
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發表於 05-4-25 11:11 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

judy,

我較為有興趣知道你貼的鴻文是在哪兒 抄出來的? 還是自已打的?

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發表於 05-4-25 11:31 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

YK,

自己打的,做咩,抄錯字?

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發表於 05-4-25 11:37 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

唔知。

不過我奇怪篇野唔似網上資源,固有此一問。你知我貪小便宜啦。唔洗錢

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Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

delete

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發表於 05-5-27 00:21 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

一條龍/直屬制度對[非龍小學生]升中已經非常不公平, 若再給予一條龍任何優惠做英中, 天理何在?

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發表於 05-5-27 08:29 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

youma 寫道:
一條龍/直屬制度對[非龍小學生]升中已經非常不公平, 若再給予一條龍任何優惠做英中, 天理何在?


Agree.  With the present point system in primary, if most EMI becomes all one dragon, there is very little choice for those non-dragon primary students even they have very good academic results. Still think that competition or assessment for entering secondary is necessary and fairer for all kids, so would prefer using non-dragon system.

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發表於 05-5-27 12:05 |只看該作者

Re: 五名英中求押後結龍限期

我有個疑問,為甚麼有學生在一所名牌英文學校里,從低讀起,到畢業時,英文還不好?學校就這麼簡單歸咎這學生入來就不是學校想要的英文已很好那種。那我想問,學校要來做甚麼的?不就是將學生由不識的教到他識為止?如果歸咎學生差,咁不如收外國人或只收講英文的學生啦,包保無問題啦。
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