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newdaddy

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854
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發表於 13-12-31 10:22 |只看該作者
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," - President John Kennedy.

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newdaddy

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854
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發表於 13-12-31 10:55 |只看該作者

回覆：ashellyromii 的帖子

This reminds me of Jack London's credo:
"I would rather be ashes than dust,
I would rather my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze,
Than it should be stifled in dry rot.I would rather be a superb meteor,
With every atom of me in magnificent glow,
Than a sleepy and permanent planet."
共勉之！



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sammilcm

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發表於 13-12-31 11:10 |只看該作者
回覆 nieualma 的帖子

我地一直都有看這新聞, 沒有說過學校做法是對的.  但人人鬧鬧鬧又有咩用??  而且已交警方handle, 可能學校唔可以係依個時間做d咩je. 點解唔可以等學校待警方查完再出來交代.  我只想講, 外界不停批評, 其實大家都唔係現場, 又點可以講到知成件事點發生呢.  只要一d人中立d, d人就係咁鬧.  我只知眼見學校一片死氣沈沈, 冇晒笑容.  咁對所有學生都唔會係一件好事.  我地只想D小朋友唔會係一個死氣沈沈嘅地方學習.  想學校老師加油.  

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nieualma  please check pm  發表於 13-12-31 11:24

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nieualma

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發表於 13-12-31 11:32 |只看該作者
回覆 sammilcm 的帖子

你也認為他們做得不對, 那校長為何不道歉? 道歉是不會影響到警方調查的吧!

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sammilcm  唉!  講來講去都係咁.  真係唔知可以點講.  發表於 13-12-31 11:40

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newdaddy

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發表於 13-12-31 11:47 |只看該作者
No one is 鬧鬧鬧. We are actually discussing this matter calmly in a very civilized way. Very logical reasonings have been listed out. Only by looking deeply into the matter with true reflection can help one (including the school and its students) to work through the mourn. Turning a blind eye as if nothing has ever happened will definitely make the outocme worse (from a psychological point of view).
Feeling so sad that so far good thought sharing was treated as blaming and kindness as making innuendo.
nieualma and I are NOT the parents here but just kind and righteous people with conscience.
Pls set a good role model for your kids!
Of course, sammilcm's thoughts is well taken - just that she did not seem to read my previous post on this matter.
If her reasoning is right, the Philippino Government is fdoing the right job on the hostage incident.
e.g.- 沒有說過這做法是對的.  但人人鬧鬧鬧又有咩用?
  而且已交警方handle, 可能學校唔可以係依個時間做d咩je. 點解唔可以等學校待警方查完再出來交代.  我只想講, 外界不停批評, 其實大家都唔係現場, 又點可以講到知成件事點發生呢.  只要一d人中立d, d人就係咁鬧.  我只知眼見學校一片死氣沈沈, 冇晒笑容.  咁對所有學生都唔會係一件好事.  我地只想D小朋友唔會係一個死氣沈沈嘅地方學習.  想學校老師加油.  

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nieualma

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發表於 13-12-31 11:47 |只看該作者
請認清問題的所在, 現在人人憤怒的, 是校長久一個道歉, 而不是什麼什麼程序!!!

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newdaddy

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發表於 13-12-31 12:19 |只看該作者
Sammilmc’s commens are interesting in that somehow I think the Philippino Government could use them on responding to HK people’s remarks on the hostage incident too . I wonder how sammilmc would feel if that is the case.
e.g.
-我地一直都有看這新聞, 沒有說過這做法是對的.  但人人鬧鬧鬧又有咩用??
- 點解唔可以等學校待警方查完再出來交代.  我只想講, 外界不停批評, 其實大家都唔係現場, 又點可以講到知成件事點發生呢.
- 只要一d人中立d, d人就係咁鬧.  
-我只知眼見學校一片死氣沈沈, 冇晒笑容.  咁對所有學生都唔會係一件好事.  
Well, suffice to say that so far the fair comments from righteous people have been ill-treated and considered by some to be 鬧鬧鬧.
Reasoning, logic and kindness aside, how can constructive discussion be continued?  We are role models for our children.
Here is what I think is constructive:
-        Only by looking deeply into the incident with true reflection can help the school, parents and the students to “work through” the mourning. Turning a blind eye on the matter as if nothing has ever happened simply does not help and would probably lead to a worse outcome psychologically. Sammilmc may like to look up on the science behind “post-incident debriefing for traumatic event” on the web for more scientific evidence and support. Again, this is not鬧鬧鬧 .
-        As a responsible Principal, he/ she should come out in public, apologize to the students and parents, lower the flag at school, cancel celebrations and organize a mass or ceremony to pay tribute to the deceased student AND list out a concrete plan for improvement ASAP. This will definitely help to save/ raise the reputation of the school.
-        As parents, you may help to reflect your opinion to the school authority for concrete improvement as you children are studying there and safety is your primary concern.
-        Nieualma and I are just kind Samaritans. We just want your kids to study there happily and safely.
-        Have a nice day.

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sammilcm

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發表於 13-12-31 13:41 |只看該作者
我不是說你們在這裡鬧鬧鬧. 而是出面好多人不停鬧, 什至講晒成間學校都有問題, 這不是太過份嗎?
我地係依間學校家長, 相信比出面任何人梗緊張佢地的安全, 不是嗎??  但現在他們的心理更是我們最關心的.  大家想法不同, 我地唔需要人認同我地想法.  我地只想用自己方法去保護自己的子女.
明天就是新的一年. 希望基真所有人會盡快調節好心理質數. 回覆心情.  

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ashellyromii  冇錯！真係好有同感呀  發表於 14-1-1 23:51

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newdaddy

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發表於 13-12-31 15:30 |只看該作者
I agree with you on”大家想法不同, 我地唔需要人認同我地想法.  我地只想用自己方法去保護自己的子女” but please just stop for a second and think calmly first. A lot of mishaps in our history arise from ignorance of mankind.

In the past, parents used methods like “blood exchange & detoxification” to treat their kids when they were sick. Some even used superstitious rituals. (I am NOT talking about you but History. The examples are for illustration only). These parents also loved their children.

Later they learned science and they became more open-minded as evolution went. That’s how civilization was built…..

I really hope you could spend some time checking out what science tells us about “debriefing for traumatic event” or “ Post-incidental debriefing” on the web. This is for the interest of your kids.

By the way, have you ever asked yourself or wonder why there are so many people (who are not parents of the students of your school) out there giving fair comments (sorry but I wouldn’t use the term鬧鬧鬧) on this matter? Has it ever appear to you that somehow there might just be a chance, be it 1 in 100, that they might be right?

If only you can listen to what the public says about this incident!  We all care about the students here and that’s why we spend time writing on this forum. Of course, it would be an entirely different matter if it so happens that you work for the school instead .

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mingmama

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發表於 13-12-31 15:32 |只看該作者

引用：我不是說你們在這裡鬧鬧鬧.+而是出面好多人

原帖由 sammilcm 於 13-12-31 發表
我不是說你們在這裡鬧鬧鬧. 而是出面好多人不停鬧, 什至講晒成間學校都有問題, 這不是太過份嗎?
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ashellyromii  我都有呢個感受，所以為學校、老師、副校同學生都感到好難過，出面所有人都話基真d老師冇常識，好似話埋佢哋教出嚟嘅學生都同樣冇常識，真係好想喊   發表於 14-1-1 23:56

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newdaddy

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發表於 13-12-31 15:44 |只看該作者
What will people out there say if the Principal comes out in public, apologize to the students and parents, lower the flag at school, cancel celebrations and organize a mass or ceremony to pay tribute to the deceased student AND list out a concrete plan for improvement in a timely manner?

What will people out there say if the Principal can show the public that the school managment can achieve all the followings in the handling of this particular incident?
1.        Accountability,
2.        Governance,
3.        Transparency.

That will definitely help to raise the reputation of the school!

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newdaddy

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854
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發表於 13-12-31 15:52 |只看該作者
Time is precious.
Better stop before I repeatedly bang my head against a brick wall.
Thank God that I have  learned History, Science and some critical thinking!
Bye!

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