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FattyDaddy 發表於 13-9-1 21:11
I don't know, what kind of good education is not suitable for anyone? Not sure I understood your qu ...

Truth is, when the children grow up, parents have no or little influence on where the children will work, regardless of the passport they hold, or the intention of the parents. The only thing I am sure is that good and appropriate education will benefit a child for life.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-2 01:07
Truth is, when the children grow up, parents have no or little influence on where the children will ...

True, children have their own fate and destiny, which may or may not turn out to be what we predict, but then we can't plan on unknowns, so we deduce what is most probably going to happen and base our planning on that.

If a family will most probably stay put in Hongkong, but opts for international schools over local schools, then the children will probably face the difficulties described by our friend nintendo, right? No one is saying "good" or "bad", just "suitable" and "not so suitable", depending on the society which the family will spend most of their time living in.

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shadeslayer I choose the "best" school for my child and anything else is secondary. 發表於 13-9-2 02:01

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-2 01:07
Truth is, when the children grow up, parents have no or little influence on where the children will ...

I agree with Nintendo & Fattydaddy that it really depends to suitability. Of course there are schools that teaches and operates well, and are quite popular (can still be mutually exclusive though), but I too do not believe in the 'best' school, only those that are more suitable for the child / family. Even amongst non-local schools, the diversity is huge. For example SIS and ESF are very different in terms are language teaching, view on discipline vs. exploration, cirriculum etc. Even local prestious schools have a diff student body (ie DBS and St. Paul kids have very different characters).
One should need to know one's own family needs, the child's characteristics and what we're looking for in education to find the best FIT for the child. As the Chinese saying goes: 甲之蜜糖，乙之砒霜。 Even now, I am still looking (both at my child's development as a person and what kind of schools that suit him), even my own child's characters surprised us as he turns out to be quite different from what we envisioned (before he was born, heehee), so I am now looking at schools that I may not have considered in the past, but are more suitable for his temperament.

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本帖最後由 jolalee 於 13-9-2 08:13 編輯

You missed my point, note the word Best was in quotes. I was saying I would not factor in where I think/wish my child will work in the selection of the "best" quality school for her. That includes consideration of the child's temperament. If parents think because the child is likely to work outside of Asia, he/she can forget about Chinese (for example), think again.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-2 08:36
If parents think because the child is likely to work outside of Asia, he/she can forget about Chinese (for example), think again. ...

Chinese is a poor example, because it is not an easy language to learn, especially when it comes to read and write, it requires far more time and effort compared to an alphabetic language. Of course, knowing one more language is always better than knowing one less, but then there are only 24 hours in a day and one can only do so much.

Every family's plans and priorities are different, if a family can't see a real need for something in their probable future, their time and efforts are better spent on something else. No outsider can tell them to "think again" as if they have made a wrong decision.

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I agree with your point. For families that are rooted in HK, there is a higher probability that their children will stay in the Greater China / HK region for work in the future. Hence, sending their children to English-focused ISs may put their children in a significant disadvantage if they indeed stay here for work. That is why the more Chinese (language)-focused ISs are gaining popularity these days.
Talking about the parent statement of intent, I had to write about my views on education when I submitted the application for ITT playgroup...

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原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-02 發表
Chinese is a poor example, because it is not an easy language to learn, especially when it comes to ...

You have to put things in perspective.

We are discussing here in EK because our children are currently studying in HK, which has a rich Chinese environment to offer. Not everyone has to achieve 5* level of Chinese, but some capability of spoken and written Chinese is within each reach, whatever school the child goes to. One Aussie I know spent 9 years in HK and now he understands HK local TV drama and speak some Cantonese.

Needless to say with the economic success of China, Chinese is not "just another language". If we aim to equipment our children for the next 50 years, can we ignore Chinese as an language?

I am entitled to my own opinion of decisions other people make, right? Same goes to you.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-2 11:46
I am entitled to my own opinion of decisions other people make, right? Same goes to you.
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Well you see, this is where you and I differ. I very very rarely question someone's choices and beliefs, unless it is something factual, like the sun rises from the East. I recognize the fact that every family's situation is different, and they make their decisions based on their own circumstances and I'm in no position to doubt them.

Sure, Chinese / China may mean everything to you, I don't doubt that, but I also accept that there are families in Hongkong who think Chinese / China is nothing. You may ask if Chinese / China is nothing to them then why are they in Hongkong? Well, they may not plan to stick around for long, right?

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I don't usually comment specifically on one child or one family. Like you said everyone 's situation is unique and forum like this nobody is to disclose full details of their family circumstances. Without specific details, one cannot comment. Therefore my comments are usually directed at the action, the behavior, the in-general principle, etc. but some people take my comments personal. It is never my intention.

Can anyone deny not picking up decent Chinese during the upbringing in HK is a missed opportunity? Again, I am not saying under all circumstances children must learn good Chinese, but as a general statement, does it sound reasonable?

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-2 12:32
Can anyone deny not picking up decent Chinese during the upbringing in HK is a missed opportunity? ...

No, personally I won't make such a sweeping statement, it depends on the length of stay, how difficult it is to pick up Chinese, and how much interest there is.

I'm thinking outside of that Chinese / China box. Say I'm assigned to a project in Mumbai (Bombay) and I need to be stationed there for 5 years so I'm bringing my family along, in fact that almost happened to me so it is not some far-fetched situation I dreamt up. Would I see those 5 years as an opportunity for my child to learn Hindi or Marathi the local language? Well, may be, may be not, hardly a definitive yes. Will my Indian colleagues think my child is missing out on a golden opportunity? I doubt so. Some Chinese Hongkongers seem to have an almost religious conviction regarding the Chinese language, much like a Muslim might think anyone who lives in Mecca for a few years and not learn about Islam is a shame, these are dangerous thoughts.

Anyway, we have drifted far enough, coming back to this "Parent Statement of Intent", if one were to say the intention of studying at an ESF school is to pick up decent Chinese, I doubt if the school will regard that intention as being inline with their aims.

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I think parents have some influence on where their child will work though not a lot. Learning Chinese is about flexibility. If one doesn't know Chinese well, the flexibility to come back and work in HK is significantly reduced.
Not a statement of fact but my personal opinion is that for Chinese who lives in HK, it is irresponsible not to let the child learn Chinese.

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annie40 agreed! 發表於 13-9-3 16:01

今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！

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FattyDaddy 發表於 13-9-2 18:23
No, personally I won't make such a sweeping statement, it depends on the length of stay, how difficu ...

I thought I just said the statement "Students should learn Chinese during their upbringing in HK" is not meant to be sweeping, as each family circumstances are unique. The statement is no more sweeping than, say, government warning they put on each and every cigarette box "Smoking Kills". The fact that there are people who smoke but live a long and happy life does not make the warning "smoking kills" less reasonable.
If you object to my statement, you have to object to "smoking kills" type of warning too.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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HKTHK 發表於 13-9-3 11:33
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I think parents have some influence on where their child will work though n ...

Agree. But to what extent Chinese (and English) is enough is less obvious.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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开头讲开家长填IS申请表要写番两句,何解会变成'中文'十分重要?

个人的体会是做事有缓急先后, 首次顺序, 在策划孩子的blue print 时, 不须把'应该' 变成不能动摇的人生框架.只要遇到是好的东西, 好的转变,
blue print绝对可以更改, 重写, 与时並进.

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shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-3 14:52
The statement is no more sweeping than, say, government warning they put on each and every cigarette box "Smoking Kills" ...

You have used a very poor parallel between Chinese and smoking, there is an abundance of solid evidence to show the harm in smoking. Anyway, off topic.

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shadeslayer There is also an abundance of evidence and real cases for Chinese. It is not smoking per se, it is the principle & thinking behind. 發表於 13-9-3 16:33

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