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管樂定弦樂比較容易掌握 [複製鏈接]

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發表於 13-4-17 12:42 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 bebebe12345 於 13-4-17 12:44 編輯

大提琴並不太貴......
好的管樂更難!
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very expensive fee after grade 5

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本帖最後由 daisy17772 於 13-4-17 13:31 編輯

For both types, there're certain requirements in order for a person to be able to perform well:

1)  管樂 - you need to have good lips control and relatively big lung

2)  弦樂 - you need to have good pitch (best to have perfect pitch)

For small kids, piano is the best, disregarding it's becoming less receptive among HK schools. Solely from the view of what benefits children, it's the best because it lays the fundamentals for many instruments.  In other countries, achievements in piano does count, unlike HK.  

Have interest and passion in the instrument they play and with support and encouragement from parents are essential for a child to continue to fight off the difficulties along the learning path.   

Why not let the child to have expose to listening to various instruments and let him choose.  I let my 4 years old boy to choose, he chose trumphet.  But that's not suitable for small kid.  So I suggest Flute to him because I wish to learn playing flute too.  End up he has very good control on lips, I'm glad that he likes.  Now he also likes playing piano so much.  

Don't consider "too" much on whether the instrument is beneficial for his education.  If he's so good being picked by the school because of this, the child has to spend Huge amount of time in music development.  But then he may have to sacrifice time in study.  Is it something you want?  Esp. for boys, do you want them to make their life on music?   I'm not playing down ppl playing music as their career.  It's just that don't stress on so much about which instrument is more welcome in an orchestra, is more taken on by schools etc.....  Kids love music is far more important, because when they learn, they need a lot of motivation to practise....  And there're actually many kids don't like music, they like sports, drama etc.

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qpa  agree  發表於 13-5-17 09:46
viv-viv  Couldn't  agree more.  Interest and passion plus gifted potential are the keys to successful instrument learning,provided that time and effort should also be invested in practising.  發表於 13-4-28 11:39

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沒甚麼的、我的孩子就是拉小提琴的囡囡沒有perfect pitch.....
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penguin_chick 發表於 13-3-12 21:35
同意。還有是在家練習管樂,特別是銅管時音量很大,家人頂得住鄰居也會投訴,除非你有唐生的地下宮殿,有泳 ...
哈哈, 又的確是. 長號又比小號嚮.  所以, 家長也要頂得住至好.

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引用:Quote:penguin_chick+發表於+13-3-12+21:35

原帖由 aeiou_drm 於 13-04-17 發表
哈哈, 又的確是. 長號又比小號嚮.  所以, 家長也要頂得住至好.
弦樂有size,管樂冇。
如果小朋友細粒,弦樂係實際d。
身型配合正確size的樂器都好重要



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發表於 13-4-17 22:45 |只看該作者

引用:大提琴入樂團的機會比小提琴高很多......以

原帖由 bebebe12345 於 13-04-17 發表
大提琴入樂團的機會比小提琴高很多......

以前也許是、現今不是!
而且大提琴亦可入中樂團。



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引用:Quote:原帖由+bebebe12345+於+13-04-17+發

原帖由 小伊 於 13-04-17 發表
而且大提琴亦可入中樂團。
E?得架咩?真係唔知喎



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woodst  是的, 例如音統處的中樂團有大提琴/低音大提琴各幾位  發表於 13-4-18 11:18

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小提琴可轉中提琴,
中提琴轉小提琴就......
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引用:Quote:原帖由+小伊+於+13-04-17+發表而且大

原帖由 jollyma 於 13-04-17 發表
E?得架咩?真係唔知喎
大部份中樂團都用大提琴,而香港中樂團用嘅革胡,技巧亦和大提琴冇分別。



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發表於 13-4-18 12:16 |只看該作者

引用:小提琴可轉中提琴,中提琴轉小提琴就......

原帖由 bebebe12345 於 13-04-18 發表
小提琴可轉中提琴,
中提琴轉小提琴就......
....就要花一兩年時間去調整技術。



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發表於 13-4-22 22:23 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:原帖由+jollyma+於+13-04-17+發表E?

原帖由 小伊 於 13-04-18 發表
大部份中樂團都用大提琴,而香港中樂團用嘅革胡,技巧亦和大提琴冇分別。



  ...
怪唔得我見有大提琴家在中樂團拉革胡,我都唔知係嘜



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有perfect pitch的小朋友學弦樂比學管學易上手。在同等練習量下,優勢會十分明顯,平時亦可自己調音。另外,學大提琴進樂團已經不容易,french horn反而更好。

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發表於 13-4-28 12:21 |只看該作者
Firstly, perfect pitch can be inborn, or may trained up automatically through long time immersion.  But the latter is not a 100% guarantee and length of immersion which leads to succefully trained up varies in each case.

Secondly, most musicians rather learn and be trained up to have good relative pitch.  Relative pitch helps a lot in instrument learning as well.
Music is my Life, my Love, my Everything,

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回覆:penguin_chick 的帖子

本帖最後由 bebebe12345 於 13-4-28 12:57 編輯

以前會介意是否perfect pitch,之後就不會。一樣有要適應的地方。




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眾樂樂 - 大家都快樂
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daisy17772 發表於 13-4-17 13:28
For both types, there're certain requirements in order for a person to be able to perform well:

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viv-viv  Couldn't  agree more.  Interest and passion plus gifted potential are the keys to successful instrument learning,provided that time and effort should also be invested in practising.  [color=#999999 !important]發表於 5 小時前

Finger crossed..

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bebebe12345 發表於 13-4-28 12:52
以前會介意是否perfect pitch,之後就不會。一樣有要適應的地方。

perfect pitch 只代表對學大部分樂器有優勢 ,並不代表他們有恆心,有毅力,有興趣,懂得欣賞音樂。有齊以上的可能百萬中無一,而且他們亦會面對其他問題。有relative pitch的人一定對音樂有熱情,經常練習,反而成就更好。

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viv-viv    發表於 13-4-29 12:57

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akys 發表於 13-4-28 22:10
perfect pitch 只代表對學大部分樂器有優勢 ,並不代表他們有恆心,有毅力,有興趣,懂得欣賞音樂。有齊以 ...
小朋友學音樂其實真係興趣、毅力、恆心缺一不可,  父母的支持都好緊要, 有些家長回家「跟」小朋友一起練, 有些家長回家「看」小朋友練, 有些家長在小朋友練習時「繼續看電視」, 效果出來已經很不一樣, 對嗎?

感興趣及悟性高的小朋友學音樂當然事半功倍, 但刻苦練習也少不免(天才例外), 去到八級, 一本普通練手指的hanon要用一個小時彈完六十個練習, 練完都成身汗, 沒有毅力的, 怎能成功?

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金毛B媽    發表於 13-4-30 11:49

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有冇好的大提琴老師介紹?
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