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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 DGJS result is out !
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DGJS result is out ! [複製鏈接]

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發表於 04-12-23 23:54 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

Sorry for the type: "try too hard", not "try to hard".

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發表於 04-12-23 23:59 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

From my personal experiences in DGJS, I totally agree with coolobserver.

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發表於 04-12-24 07:28 |只看該作者

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no of course you havn;t offended anyone, in fact your explanation should apply to the society in general and not just only to school situations.

i cannot say for sure because i wasn't one of those parents when i was in primary school, nor am i a parent now.
but if parents with the money background doesn't enjoy the compeititon beneath, then that sounds probably even more snobbish doesn't it?

Maybe we should just look at the perspective of te child, ultimately it is the child who goes to the  school and not the parents.

your analytical explanations are great, but i understand the mentality of the wannabes, I guess my parents were of the third type, which is why, when i meet peers of the wannabes, I felt especailly uncomfortable about it.
your description of the fourth type made me felt like parents were trying to continuing their legacy or 'fight' to the next generation, and hoping that they will 'win' or take a piece of their own one day.
Even the children of the wannabes are quite agressive/assertive in their behaviours in which to me seemed absolutely overt and senseless.


ok working hard to be the best is OK...because this is how the society improves, but working to be the best and beating everyone else is NOT.

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發表於 04-12-24 15:32 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

Agree!!


由 coolobserver 於 2004-12-23 12:49:29Allow me to elaborate:

myths are very often self perpetuating. When I refer to the "Kowloon Tong herd" I mean those parents who go to those few private-run kindergartens (pkus CCKG) and who make "getting into DGJS" their lifelong mission (SC for K1, CCKG for K2-K3, etc). It is true that some girls from these KGs get into DGJS, and because their parents tend to be more aggressive than those from other KGs (and more prepared to talk on-line: hence the myth created in this forum), they are the ones who will (for example) start study groups in P1, gather other parents' tel no., compile (and compare) data on kids' performance, etc. In a way the good name of DGJS is slightly tarnished by parents like these - there are lots of mellow, down-to-earth parents from all over HK (and all kinds of KG).

As far as I know, there is not one particular school that can claim a particular stronghold in terms of DGJS admission (CCKG apart - and even for CCKG the rate is not, apparently, as staggering as a lot of people are led to believe). You also have to consider matters such as the number of applicants from a particular school. Saying that "x number of kids from a particular school got into DGJS" is rather meaningless, because if if that school is a "chain store" type school with hundreds of students, then "x" may be a comparatively small number.

My point is that I know from personal knowledge that there are a lot of good KGs around (and those know will know, and I do not want to advertise for any particular one) which produce lots of students who are well liked by lots of prestigious primary schools. Try to widen your horizon, parents, and not get stuck with the Kowloon Tong herd.

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發表於 04-12-24 17:59 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

Msma,

咁dgs 打得個英文底都幾好 -
But I have also seen some girls in Sec School who studied in Pr School whose Engl was terrible !
However this is only a very small minority.

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發表於 04-12-25 00:10 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

Totally agree with coolobserver !!

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發表於 04-12-25 05:21 |只看該作者

Re: DGJS result is out !

coolobserver 寫道:
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juke5301 寫道:
ummm this is really true tho.
the mothers themselves have enough competition, it is just an elitist thinking amongst the so called high class parents.
SO stuck up and snobbish
actually i think the top students in the school are playing an equally damaging role in group dynamics, to me those 超班女 try to segregate themselves so that they appear to be unique


This may be a slightly snobbish explanation, but I think a lot of the competitiveness actually comes from "chip on one's shoulders".  

If parents come from extra-rich families (or have "background") they do not need to prove anything (and they do not need to be competitive academically).

If parents are themselves very well educated and cultivated, they will no doubt have high expectation of their kids and privately drive them quite hard, but because they have relatively good background (and have "class" - I do not mean "class" in the sense f high social class or social status, but "class" in the sense of acting with dignity and proper manners) they will not de-generate to the level of wanting to compete with other parents aggressively.

If parents are ordinary decent people with reasonable expectation of their kids, then they will just let their kids develop naturally without pushing them too hard.  And since both parents may have to work they may ave no time to gossip or compete with the others.

The most intolerable are the "wannabe" type.  I may sound very snobbish in saying this, but there are parents who think they have "a point to prove": they may now be professionals (or in middle/senior management posts) but they have this feeling that they have not been to the best or most elite school themselves (there are professionals and there are professionals).  There is nothing wrong in this, because we all want our kids to do better than ourselves.  However, the difference between wannabe parents (as in the case of all kinds of wannabes) and ordinary decent parents (with expectation of their kids) is that wannabe parents try to hard to prove themselves and to beat others.    Also, they may feel that, now they are "professionals", they wish the whole world to heap praises on them by saying "O, your kid goes to this and that school and he or she comes first, how clever!"

Sorry to talk for so long.  Have I offended anyone?[/quote]

The above analysis of parents is quite interesting.  I guess that the most unbearable thing of the last type of wannabe parents is their showing off of how good they are or their kids are, telling people that they are the "best" and expect for others' praising.  I know a colleague graduated from DGS, she has very good English, but she also possesses the typical characteristics of always wanting to beat down others and showing off that she is the best of all kind.  I always think that the world is so big and there are always so many more things to learn and so many smart and intelligent people out there, does it appear very silly for someone to behave like that? :  :
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