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發表於 04-12-6 02:45 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

Hi BillyM,

I wonder why you rank St. Mary in #4, can you tell in more details.  I would like to know more about their secondary section.  Please tell.

Thank you.

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發表於 04-12-6 14:58 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

harry potter,

I think BillyM was relying on non-academic results to arrive such conclusion !

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發表於 04-12-7 00:09 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

Please read the comments immediate below the ranking I wrote in my message:

"This ranking is based on the criteria for myself: academics, the teaching ability of the teachers and the system, school authority's attitude towards extra-curricular activities, and the most important of all, the kids' school spirit. That is the most accurate indicator of whether the kids are happy or not in school."

I have to stress that again.  That's based on my own priorities in picking a school.  I have already taken academics into account but I really don't think academics is the lone factor when choosing a school.

Some parents will want to choose a school with the best academic record.  But for myself, I prefer a school which can develop all-rounded students.  My observation tells me that Maryknoll, Heep Yunn and Good Hope can do a much better job in this regard than St Mary's.  I'm not saying that there is no such students in St Mary's.  But the chance will be higher in the other three.  Parents can make the choice themselves.

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發表於 04-12-7 00:29 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

哈里波特: Back to your original question.

The workload of SMCC is very high.  They probably have the most homework among all the secondary schools which I have seen. If a student falls behind, it's quite hard to catch up.  

Their teaching ability is so-so.  The standard is tuned to the best students in class.  If the student is not one of them, she will have five tough years ahead of her.  (not many students belong to that category.) They use foreign English textbooks, which is quite common among better schools.  Other textbooks are more or less the same as other schools (Ling Kee, Oxford, Canotta).  Good Hope and DGS use a lot of textbooks from Manhattan, which are more difficult.  One interesting fact to tell: this year's F.5 is still using a Maths textbook which is quite outdated (it's like a 1990 edition).  The syllabus has changed a lot and they are still using it.  It is much more difficult than what the present syllabus requires.  The result: the best students get better; the average students can't learn anything.  They don't know how to do the difficult problems in the textbook.  But they don't know how to do the simplest problems either. Fortunately another textbook was finally chosen for the new syllabus this year.  F.4 students this year are luckier.

The school said that 3/4 of their HKCEE students last year got credit or above in English.  That's remarkable.

In lower forms, exams are always difficult.  Many students can't finish their papers within the given time.  I have done their papers myself and their lengths are quite unreasonable.   I don't agree with that practice.  Exams are meant to assess how much a student knows, not how fast a student can write.  

One good thing the school has done this year is to abolish the first organized test for F.1 students.  This provides more time for the F1 students to accustom to the new environment.

The school authority doesn't make a great effort in encouraging students to take part in extra-curricular activities (as opposed to the other three schools mentioned in this discussion).  She loses a lot of points in this category in my ranking.  

Wow.  I can't believe how much I have written on this school.  Hope this helps.

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發表於 04-12-7 18:56 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

billym,
唔該曬你既分析, 想問下有人話 ghs 既中學成績只是一般,但協恩就幾好, 校風又純, 此說法你又有何意見呢 ?

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發表於 04-12-7 20:45 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

BillyM,

thank you for your sharing !

btw, why do you know so much about St Mary ?

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發表於 04-12-7 21:12 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

BillyM,
Thank you for your information.  I also prefer a school with balance development to a kid.  

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發表於 04-12-8 00:37 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

我沒有實際數據去分析各學校的成績,若然GHS的成績在數據上真的不及其他三校,我亦不會驚奇。GHS的HKCEE成積可在其Homepage找到,老實說並不十分出色。(但也過得去吧…)不過,我曾接觸的Good Hopers給予我很好的印象,她們的「款」很「名校」。這不是貶義,我定義中的「名校」look是出於學生的自信,和對自己學校的肯定,一般來說就是那種school spirit。Good Hopers有這種「款」,Maryknollers、DB仔、喇沙仔也有。

而她的直資身份,在未來數年教改的驚濤駭浪中會較易走位,不像其他資助津貼學校般受政府支配。

中學的中文已經用普通話教授,成效亦不俗。

小學英文水準亦高,雖然未必可以與DGJS、Maryknoll相題並論,但是也十分「教到野」。

中學老師普遍有熱誠,改卷時用心,常會見到些鼓勵或「戥」學生失分而不值的語句。

我對近年協恩的認知不多,大致上的感覺和Daisy媽咪妳的吻合,學生比較男仔頭。Good Hopers似乎比較貪靚。(其實又有乜女仔唔貪靚?)

我認為協恩和德望的排名相若:要中產、名校、「鬼」一些的,揀德望;要純D、爽朗、男仔頭的,選協恩。(好像在揀女朋友)

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發表於 04-12-8 01:20 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

還有唔多關連的個案可分享。

剛和一媽咪傾談,她的女兒在港島讀小學,但由於搬屋,中學升了同系的St Mary's。她說女兒小學很活潑,過了三年中學後,功課壓力大,變得連星期日family gathering也不願去,寧願在家做project。

到了細仔升中(他在私立小學讀),老師提議試喇沙,媽咪不敢了,怕細仔也讀得辛苦,終於入了間普通band 1英文學校。

現在又後悔了,細仔說學校的老師很老、上課很悶,媽咪看看測驗卷,不能相信還有老師用「剪貼」法出卷,不是Windows的cut & paste,而是真的用剪刀膠水併貼坊間作業而成,還有些用打字機打的陳年notes。朋友說喇沙仔都讀得開心,學校又大又靚,成績又好。媽咪又想,應不應幫細仔嘗試轉會呢?

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發表於 04-12-8 08:33 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

那位媽咪是否和喇沙很有關係,因為說到好像想"轉會"就能轉到一樣。

BillyM 寫道:
到了細仔升中(他在私立小學讀),老師提議試喇沙,媽咪不敢了,怕細仔也讀得辛苦,終於入了間普通band 1英文學校。

現在又後悔了,細仔說學校的老師很老、上課很悶,媽咪看看測驗卷,不能相信還有老師用「剪貼」法出卷,不是Windows的cut & paste,而是真的用剪刀膠水併貼坊間作業而成,還有些用打字機打的陳年notes。朋友說喇沙仔都讀得開心,學校又大又靚,成績又好。媽咪又想,應不應幫細仔嘗試轉會呢?

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發表於 04-12-9 00:12 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

不清楚,她咁講,我咁聽。香港有很多人有「計」的,有都未必會出聲啦。

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發表於 04-12-9 09:28 |只看該作者

Re: 比較 瑪利諾(MCS) / St Mary / Good Hope

朝中有人好辦事嗎! 世界上任何地方都係架!

Msma
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