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eviepa,

thank you for your help!

really appreciate that !

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mattsmum 寫道:
"閱讀不是在搶分數,不要把閱讀成果導向學業成續的表現.這會讓孩子對閱讀產生壓力,甚至反感."

just pure happy reading together. you would see a surprise result when the time is right for him.

mattsmum,

I am really admire you that you can enjoy reading English books together with your kid (kids enjoy reading Chinese books are a lot easier in HK).

I can't find any books in HK to teach parents how to read English books with their children.  I can't get any good suggestion from my friends either.  I have to figure it out on my own.

A year ago, I don't have much confident to attract my daughter to read English books.  Now it seems ok.  But the problem is that although she can get fun from reading English books, she gets more fun from reading Chinese books.  That's why if she has the choice, she will choose Chinese.

Now, every evening, she reads books on both languages for half an hour each, then story time.  The reason why she reads English books is that she loves to be with me.  If I were not with her, she would prefer reading Chinese books.

Can you, or anybody suggest to me how to improve the situation?  Is there any books I can read to get some idea?

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hi, eviepa,

my problem is contrary to yours, he would prefer reading english books if he got a choice. in his nursery time, he learned to recognize more english words than chinese charactors which are more complicated. chinese books do not have the vast variety /funny story/ various levels as english books as well.so I am trying hard to find good chinese books for him.

I think I just started naturally by getting those interesting books for him. eg, his lego books, he loves them so much that he would asked me to read and he readed by himself too. you can't find a chinese lego book! so finding something that interests him is, perhaps, the first step.

I got a lot of information telling parents how to teach kids to read but not specific as to read "chinese or english". (poor kids, they are espected to be good at both at such an age).

did you ever seach some really funny books for your girl? such as " babby books", "little witches"? maybe she then found that attractive.

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Hi eviepa,

I can't find any books in HK to teach parents how to read English books with their children. I can't get any good suggestion from my friends either. I have to figure it out on my own... Can you, or anybody suggest to me how to improve the situation? Is there any books I can read to get some idea?

You already got some good advice from mattsmum.  Here is my further suggestion - I always turn to about.com for some quick tips on almost everything.  Here is what they say on how to encourage a young child to read: http://childrensbooks.about.com/cs/forparents/ht/encourageread.htm.  You may also find the discussions at Suite101 (http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/reading_for_kids) useful.  Take a look of the articles in the archive.  The following is a list of books that people say are good:

(1) "Teaching Kids to Read for Dummies" - I had a brief look of this book in a bookstore.  It's an easy to read book with some common sense suggestions.  Makes more sense to me than Glenn Damon's how to teach your babies do this and that series.

(2) Teach Them All to Read: Catching the Kids Who Fall Through the Cracks

(3) Read to Me: Raising Kids Who Love to Read

I hesitate to recommend "The Well-Trained Mind: A Guide to Classical Education at Home", but somehow believe that you'll like it.  Be prepared for the "don't torture you kid" type of comments from people who see you reading it.

Like mattsmum's son, my girl also prefers English books to Chinese books.  Trying to arouse her interest in Chinese is a new task for me.  I recently found a bookstore in North Point (Reader's Bookshop, Shop C, G/F, 58 King's Road, there is a children corner on the upper floor) that carries some really nice Chinese children books.  I suggest that everyone looking for Chinese children books go and take a look.

Regards,
KC

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Hi Everyone, something would like to share.
My daughter is now P.3. Fortunately she loves reading Chinese and English books. She is now capable to read both languages chapter books by herself. But to maintain her reading hobby, I still read books to her almost every night.
My concept was solely English books and video since she was 7 months old to P.1(the period a child starts to understand you and he/she stills listen to you). I chose only very nice illustration, good quality pictures and interesting books only. i.e fairy story, Barney's, Kippers, Pingu, Peter Ribbit and some naughty kids stories kids would love. Because my plan was to put her in Chinese medium kinder and primary, so she could learn Chinese at school anyway.
Why I'm doing that.....Before my child was born, I saw my relatives' kids that they were so resist of learning English when they'r in P. School. Since their parents thought kids could learn English from P.School. So they'd never really put much effort to let their kids exposed to English earlier. When their kids were getting more & more behind in the English classes, they felt discouraged..... So I determined to let my child to approach English as early as possible (before she could even talk)
English lesson in most local P. S. are boring, grammer and dictation only!
I am satisified with my experiment. My girl didn't resist Chinese, she learn it so naturally from school and friends. Except she always ask why the illustration of the Chinese story books' she saw them from schools are not pretty. Also I will only choose translated Chin story books for her, the other advantage is she gets arts sense and art appreciation from it. BTW, some books from Taiwan have very beautiful illustration too, so I will buy these books too.
But don't be discourage if your kids don't like reading. Start from the family, switch off TV, they'l gradually love it. Some day you will see the crop.
Now I just complain that she doesn't have much free time to read lots of books since she's in P.S. Even she is studying in a new concept DSS.
But it's alright, she's already build up a good hobby. Books, pencils and papers are the necessities in her bags when we are going out!
When kids love reading, their academic result will be satisified at school. Also I don't and never expect my kid to get an "A". If she gets "A" I'l buy her a gift, if not I still feeling alright and said "not bad".

This web site list almost all book stores in HK
http://www.hkwithkids.com/books.htm

Try Greenfield if you need to learn story telling tips. Eventhough I never join their progarms, but it sounds good though
http://www.greenfieldhk.com/

Thanks for all your sharing. I'm no Saint! Sometimes and always yell at my girl too when she's naughty and working slow. But I did learn a lot from this topic; Love and Encouragment comes first, I found it works and my home is more peacful now without my "SHOUTING", just my happy kid's laughting. Let's try!!!!

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"bookstore in North Point (Reader's Bookshop, Shop C, G/F, 58 King's Road, there is a children corner on the upper floor)"

yes i got some chinese books from them when they were in the taikoo shing book show last month. looks like taiwan books are the one we should look for for kids who does not like to read chinese books. there are so many good books in taiwan web site but their postabge fee is too expensive.

i agree that the books we choose got to be of good quality in content and painting. as this is the first encourter of kids to the visual world.

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For those like me who can't afford to buy so many books and are lazy to go to library so often may consider the resources at the below web site:

learningpage.com/
kizclub.com/

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"培養"讀"的興趣可以從培養"聽"的興趣開始，每天朗讀一篇課文或講一個故事，這樣能使孩子建立起熱愛書本、嚮往讀書的願望。

作為家長應該清楚，孩子早期閱讀，不在於"能力"而在於"興趣"。不要把孩子能認多少字、背多少古詩作為目標，而要看孩子是否感受到語言文字的魅力，從而使她鼓蕩起一個急切的願望，學會自己去讀.

怎樣培養孩子熱愛閱讀
儘管我談的是兒童閱讀，但是，我認為指導閱讀的重點不在兒童，而在家長。家長對讀書的態度和行為對兒童有非常重要的影響。如果家長希望孩子熱愛讀書，那麼，家長至少應該瞭解三件事：

第一件事，家長要瞭解讀書對孩子的意義。
一些家長對孩子讀書寄予過高的期望，期望孩子閱讀能迅速提高思想覺悟、提高學習成績、提高修養等。所以，家長在讀書的問題上特別容易與孩子發生衝突。比如，孩子總喜歡看輕鬆的卡通，而家長則希望他們看有教育意義的書。談到讀書，家長多談的是"教育功能"，談的是"一本好書能改變人的一生"。但如果我們能冷靜地面對現實，我們就會發現，"一本好書能改變人的一生"是一個神話。我們可以想想自己，是哪本書使我們成為現在的自己。

現在又有哪本書能改變你的孩子的一生呢？現在的孩子生活在一個多元化的資訊開放時代，他們面臨著比我們當年多得多媒介選擇。除了書，他們可以看電視，玩電子遊戲機，聽錄音帶，甚至可以進入電腦網路。所以，我們要做的第一件事，就是降低讀書的期望值。根據以往的研究和經驗，在孩子讀書問題上，我覺得應該強調三個基本觀點：其一，讀書是孩子的一種娛樂，或者說，讀書首先具有娛樂功能。娛樂是孩子成長的需要，沒有娛樂活動，孩子不能得到很好的發展。尤其是現代孩子面臨較大的競爭壓力，特別需要這種娛樂媒介。

孩子接觸媒介是為了滿足娛樂需要，而不是為了接著"上課"。在大多數情況下，書籍是孩子們的娛樂工具之一，孩子不會為了學習而去看書。家長如果硬將其發展為一種單純的教育工具，那麼，孩子對它的態度就會像對待課本一樣了。其二，書籍中的文學作品是一種藝術，兒童成長需要體驗藝術。所以，當孩子閱讀文學作品時，家長應注重的是藝術方面的教育。其三，從媒介中學習（即受教育）是一種伴隨性質的學習，即在滿足娛樂需要的過程中，無意中學到一些東西，即傳統的寓教於樂。雖然無意中學到的東西對孩子很重要，但並不會因為重要就改變了閱讀的性質。至此，我們可以明確，兒童閱讀的意義是娛樂、是體驗藝術。在這個過程中，會發生伴隨性質的學習，即接受思想、知識方面的教育。

第二件事，家長要瞭解指導孩子閱讀的方法。
有許多方法可以培養孩子熱愛閱讀。最主要的方法有如下五種：
為孩子選擇他們"能"讀的書看。不同年齡段的孩子有不同的識字能力和理解能力。要根據孩子的閱讀能力來選擇書籍。如果孩子特別喜歡閱讀，可選擇稍微高於孩子實際水平的書籍。相反，如果孩子不喜歡閱讀，可以選擇略低於孩子實際水平的書籍。
為孩子選擇他們"喜歡"的書籍。什麼是孩子喜歡的書籍？家長可以根據下列孩子的表現來判斷：當孩子走近書櫃（無論商店或是家裏）時，他是否徑直走向某個特定的書架？他是否懂得到哪里去找科學書籍、小說或詩歌？他有沒有跟在一、兩個孩子後頭，按別人的選擇來選書？如果孩子閱讀時，看看孩子是否迅速進入了閱讀，他實際閱讀的時間有多長，是否經常談論與書有關的內容等。如果孩子能自己直接找到一本書，不看其他的書，閱讀時迅速進入情境，閱讀時間較長，經常與夥伴談論書的內容，或做有關的遊戲，則說明他對這類書感興趣。
培養良好的讀書習慣。這些習慣包括：
◆愛惜圖書。保持圖書整潔。不撕書，不折頁。鼓勵兒童保存看過的圖書。
◆鼓勵兒童自己選擇讀物，和兒童討論哪些是適合他們看的讀物，哪些是他們自己特別感興趣的讀物，並以此為標準選擇讀物。給孩子一定的選擇讀物的權利。如果為孩子訂閱報刊，請孩子自己選擇。
◆合理安排時間，家長每週可為孩子安排一次或數次專門用於閱讀的時間。
◆定期買書或借書。教給孩子利用兒童圖書館的技能，如圖書館是怎麼對圖書進行分類的，怎麼能找到他最想看的書等。最好能參觀一下兒童常去的圖書館，替孩子申請圖書證，幫助孩子適應圖書館；教給孩子買書的技能。在孩子小的時候，每次買書都帶著孩子，商量好買什麼書後，把錢交給他，讓他自己從售書員手裏親自接過書，完成模仿父母買書的過程，這樣做比父母從街上帶回一本書更能讓孩子滿足。孩子稍大後，告訴孩子要買正式出版社的書，要注意看印刷質量、是否有錯頁等。這些技能看似簡單，但如果孩子覺得困難，就會放棄選擇圖書和借閱圖書的機會，影響兒童閱讀興趣的培養。
◆鼓勵孩子記筆記。隨便寫什麼都可以，寫個簡單的書名也好，可以培養孩子要從閱讀中獲取一些東西的習慣。
◆創造好的閱讀環境。在家裏，給孩子一個小書架，請孩子安排自己的書。孩子閱讀時，儘量保持安靜。

經常與孩子交流。與年齡較小的孩子一起閱讀和創作（如編故事等），與年齡較大的孩子一起討論和交流。如果孩子在閱讀中提出問題，儘量回答孩子的問題。同時，在家裏，最好常備一些少年兒童百科全書類的書籍。當兒童提出問題時，引導兒童從書籍中尋找答案。啟發兒童討論思想、藝術方面的內容，儘量讓孩子發表自己的見解。

孩子讀了地理讀物後，在旅遊時，可以讓孩子來設計旅行路線等。這種知識的利用不僅能增加孩子的閱讀興趣，還能增強孩子的自信心和培養孩子的科學世界觀。

第三件事，也是最重要的一件事，就是家長自己要熱愛閱讀。
自己熱愛讀書，這是對孩子最有效的教育。從兒童出生起，就讓孩子看到你閱讀。如果兒童經常看到家長從閱讀中獲得樂趣，自然也喜歡閱讀。在嬰兒時期，家長最好經常高聲朗讀，為兒童朗讀書籍開始得越早越好。如果在兒童10歲以前，家長有朗讀的習慣，那麼，兒童就很容易熱愛讀書。讀書，與其說是一種愛好，不如說是一種習慣，只要從小培養，它就會像吃飯睡覺一樣成為生活中最自然的事情。天長日久，書會成為孩子最知心的朋友。

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Hi everybody,

Thanks for all your suggestions and sharings.  They are very good to my daughter and probably will benefit a lot of parents reading this forum.

I also want to share with you the following 2 websites containing on-line books - free of charge.

www.lil-fingers.com/games/index.html
a website with books and games for toddlers.  But may be a little boring for Primary 2 and up.

www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/storycircle/fairystories/jackbeanstalk/jack_s.shtml
A section of website under BBC. It contains a lot of on line story books, games etc which suitable for primary kids. My daughter likes to read/listen to/watch the books very much.

Hope that you will make the most of the above websites.

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Thank you so many mums and dads here sharing their experience and giving out so many good ideas and suggestions of good books. I have learned a lot from you all and will try on my girl.

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Hi Philipwhau,
Thanks for your sharing too! you and eviepa are amazing pa pa! so do Warren and Mattsmum.
I learn a lot from all of you.
Hope other parents persist in reading books with kids as much as much you could. The outcome is just amazing!
Regards.
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eviepa,

Thanks for your sharing. My kids like the stories very mcuh.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/storycircle/fairystories/

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warrrren 寫道:

There is a good collection of the Oxford series at the Central library. Go to the not for loan section (near the escalator), and you'll find a few sets of Oxford Reading Tree, Oxford Story Tree and the poems and plays supplements there. My is girl is a big fan of Oxford Reading Tree.

Hi warrrren,

Thanks for your tips.  Today I went to Central Library and found that there wer a lot of not for loan books in English that exactly suited my daughter.

My girl is a big fan of Oxford Reading Tree either.  She can read by herself up to stage 9.  However it is very difficult to borrow books for ORT at my local library because they are really great books.  When I  spotted them I just borrow 1 from stage x and 1 from stage y and my daughter can't finish all the stages yet.

Now I know that there are a full collection waiting for my daughter.  It's great!

However as I mentioned earlier, my daughter prefers Chinese books than English books.  For Chinese books, she can read one or two hours non-stop.  However, I only dare to read English books with her for up to 40 minutes each time.  I don't know if she will feel bore for reading longer time in English.

Every time we travel to the Central Library and back home take us 1.5 hours.  And if my daughter goes there just to read English books for 40 minutes, it is not worthwhile.  For Chinese books, our local library has enough material for her.

Anyone can help me to solve the problem?

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H i eviepa,

Every time we travel to the Central Library and back home take us 1.5 hours. And if my daughter goes there just to read English books for 40 minutes, it is not worthwhile.

The Oxford Reading Trees are very "hot" items. You may have to make reservation to get hold of the books you want. Do try the online reservation system. You can pick up the books at any public library.

Talk to your girl's teachers. The school may well have a budget for a set or two.

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warrrren,

Thanks

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Hope it helps!

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