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宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

將來為我個仔申請小學時, 有5分是:與該校有相同的宗教信仰.

請問這5分是指小朋友或父母.

如果是指小朋友,他年紀這樣小,受浸只是父母為他安排,如何證明他信主? 

如果是指父母, 但只是母親巳信基督教,但父親未信, 這樣可以嗎?

我只是決了志,沒有受浸,小朋友申請小學時,如要受浸紙作證明,我是否一定要受浸. 可否找回以前領我信主的牧師寫封信,證明我巳信主? 

請對這方面有認識的媽咪可以幫我解答以上的疑問.謝謝.



God is love!

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

宗 教 5 分 是 指 你 小 朋 友 已 領 洗 ﹐ 而 不 是 其 家 長 。父 母 安 排 仔 女 年 幼 時 受 洗 ﹐ 意 味 父 母 帶 領 他 們 走 向 信 主的 道 路  。 小 朋 友 信 唔 信 主 要 看  父 母 怎 樣 教 育 他 們 。

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

學校要求的證明文件是孩子本人的,而不是父母的。
天主教及有些基督教會是有嬰兒/兒童領洗的,在天主教而言,兩個人係天主面前結成夫婦,同時亦承諾了替將來的兒女受洗,一直要帶領孩子認識天父,因為父母的影響/身教對孩子最具影響力。
當然有人會覺得點知小朋友會信?這是否孩子意願?孩子沒了選擇的權利?我只知信主是我個人的莫大福氣,亦想兒子由小培養這方面的信德,可帶領他信是我給他的一份無形的禮物,正如大家將最好的東西給予你們的子女一樣。而孩子會一直返主日學/在校內上道理班(天主教學校),到他大約10歲時,會有一個叫「堅振」(confirmation) 的儀式,到時孩子會親自承認信主。至於基督教有唔同的會派,各有不同的做法,我不太清楚,但只知有些亦有嬰兒/兒童領洗,我去過一個朋友女兒的洗禮,他們是循道會的。
至於學校會承認那種證明文件,最好向心儀學校查問。舉例兩間聖公會的學校,聖公會聖米迦勒小學接受任何一間基督教會的領洗紙,但同是聖公會的聖士提反女子中學附屬小學,便只接受聖公會的受洗證明,其他會派的領洗紙不會給予那5分的。

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Kathy-yo-yo, thank you.

麟媽媽, 好多謝你的詳細意見.   我的信仰是基督教.  由個仔出世開始, 對聖靈有很大的感動.  我亦認同可以引導兒子認識主, 是我給他的最好禮物. 教他當行的路. 是我們作為媽咪應該做的事.  

其實我一直認為, 只要我心中及口裏愛主, 巳十分足夠.  小朋友由細開始就要給他認識神, 我與他由細一起在睡前祈禱, 慢慢地, 他自己也會向天父禱告.   我相信他長大後, 自會有他自己對信仰的認同. 為了要向學校作出證明, 而在小朋友小小的年紀受浸, 我都不知如何向牧師提出! 希望下年教育署會改變入學申請方法.   

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.


真的嗎?多謝更正。
只因我曾參與過朋友女兒的洗禮儀式,他們的教會是位於北角百福道的循道會,我知道那是基督教的教會。我見他們的牧師替小朋友及嬰兒的額上淋水,這不是洗禮嗎?我不是想錯誤引導別人,只是我曾見過,跟我們天主教所做的相似,可能我誤會了,請見諒。


3loks 寫道:


在基督教裡,沒有嬰孩洗禮一回事,那只是天主教的儀式.

從基督教而言,如該教會有嬰孩奉獻禮(意思是指家長有心志讓孩子在聖經真道上教育)便會有寫有孩子名字的奉獻禮証明信.
如果沒有此類禮儀,便需有家長受浸及該所屬教會發出的証明信.
某些學校會接受父母其中一方已受浸的証明.


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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

麟媽媽:

我知道是有基督教教會有嬰孩洗禮的。
"It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." ~Mother Teresa~

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

3loks 你說得對.我相信這宗教的5分,對小朋友會否有真正幫助,真是未知之數. 但在神的看顧下, 對小朋友的幫助,必是他們的福氣. 

麟媽媽, 多謝你與我分享你所看見的.
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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

In my case, we had the church office write a letter to certify that both of us, the parents, had already got baptised (with the baptism date given) and that we regularly attend different meetings and participate in the service of our Lord and the church.  Then the letter went on to point out that our daughter attended the children's meeting with us ever since she was born but she had not got baptised because of her young age.

We don't baptise children as they were too small to have the mentality to understand.  It is meaningless to have them baptised if it is just an outward ceremony.  So we just told the truth in the certifying letter.  It turned out that the letter was useless just because the school which we applied belonged to the Anglican church and so they only accepted children who were also members of that church and we were not.  We found out later that this was also true to the Baptism church.  However, a christian friend of mine who had the similar certifying letter as mine successfully accepted by the school of her choice as the school accepted christians of any church.

So you have to find out which church organization does the school of your choice belong to.

If you have faith in the Lord, pray and just leave everything to the Lord.  You don't need to struggle to get the 5 additional points.  Just rest at peace.  Whatever result it comes out, the Lord will never be wrong.  At that time, we only had the point of being 'the first child' and now it turns out that the Lord prepares us a school which we had not expected before but we, and most important of all, our daughter, love it.

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DESP,

Thanks for your sharing.  I am so glad to read your message.  Under the shelter from God, there is always a warm feeling between us, just like the sisters and brothers.

If there is any mother who is not knowing well of Lord, I highly recommend you try going to the church with your child, I am sure you will enjoy the love in between!  God bless you.

God is love!

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Jmom,

你講得一D都無錯,小朋友可以係教會內成長,為佢地可帶來很多得著,不只是為那區區的5分。
小兒還未到6歲,我常感謝主給他一夥感恩的心,記得有一次我跟他一起洗菜,我跟他說:「媽咪好開心呢,有一個咁乖既仔!」之後他竟說:「我都好感謝天父,比左個咁好的媽咪比我!呀!仲要多謝埋婆婆,無婆婆便無媽咪喇!」。我好驚訝兒子說出一番這樣的話,畢竟他當時只是個幼稚園學生罷!

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i think that it is not good to go to church or be baptisted in order to get that 5 points as you should be with your heart in doing all these
i agree that it is good to bring children to church in order for them to know more about our god in their early life.
regarding the points for applying P1, education dept confirmed that individual school should be referred as different school will handle differently.  hence, to confirm your case, you may call the school that you target at to enquire about their standard on this
hope this help

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

麟媽媽,

你個小朋友真的十分可愛, 他可以說出那番說話, 相信一定因為你平時教他凡事感恩, 是嗎?  因我個仔都會説出這類的感恩說話, 我由他小小年紀開始, 當我們一起遇到快樂和開心的事,我都向他說, 我們十分幸福, 要感謝神賜給我們的喜悅. 這不是必然的事. 希望你和我的小朋友一直在神的看守下快樂成長.

chunchunmami,

Thank you for your advice.  In fact, I have no specific school for my son at this moment.  He is just in K1 this year.  I would just like to collect some information first.  In fact,  the 5 additional points are not very "useful" which are not applicable to all schools.  As the other moms said before, school A may accept the cert which issued by church A but school B may only accept the cert from church B....  In my eye, we are the same  under the God no matter which church we are going to.  Of course, I have no intention to change my church for any reason.  Anyway, thanks for your information.

God is love!

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咁係咪即係只需要比子女領洗紙副本就得, 父母係唔需要呢?

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JMom,

無錯呢!我地父母係子女的一面鏡子,我地既處事待人接物,談吐態度都是佢地模仿的對象。如果有些父母為5分而領洗,而根本不會真的信及帶領他們,咁樣會為孩子帶來不良的後果。回到校內,孩子要面對校內神職人員,而校方亦有記錄,遇到提問時無言以對,孩子多難堪!更甚孩子可能編上大話以求解圍,到時父母真的難辭其咎!

Umi,

你要預備領洗紙副本在交表時留給學校存放,而正本亦要帶,因他們收表時要核對正本的。天主教學校只需孩子本人的領洗證明,父母的是不需要的。但基督教學校,正如其他媽咪說,各會派有各自做法,有些要用父母受浸證明,最好向心儀學校查詢。

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發表於 04-9-10 00:46 |只看該作者

Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

I love God too! But I don't want to find a primary school to 受浸.
But my daughter and me will go to church every week.
So I will ask 傳道人to write a letter to prove my daughter has joined the church for long time....something like that.
Thanks. :wink:

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Re: 宗教5分的疑問.請指教.

我自己沒有宗教信仰,不懂得怎樣欣賞神的恩典。我只是感到如果申請小一入學加入宗教元素 (即有分加),會令宗教商業化,因為的確有很多人為了這 5分去假信教。
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