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甜芋

看完你的文章後,都鄧你和囝囝開心。
希望你囝囝有好的轉變。
他會自動自覺做功課。

想問問心理醫生是學校轉介的嗎?

我囝是當他知道你是有目的而問他問題時,(他的觀察力很強),他會拒絕作答。所以政府的心理學家都冇佢符,對他的評語是:未能評估。

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原文章由 P-Ma 於 08-5-16 17:12 發表
甜芋

看完你的文章後,都鄧你和囝囝開心。
希望你囝囝有好的轉變。
他會自動自覺做功課。

想問問心理醫生是學校轉介的嗎?

我囝是當他知道你是有目的而問他問題時,(他的觀察力很強),他會拒絕作答。 ...

P-ma,你仔好似我仔咁,拒絕作答 不過我仔小二果時,見完社工已經~~未能提供合適轉介!

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原文章由 甜芋 於 08-5-15 12:02 發表
返黎嘍!

星期三晚,搭巴士時,囝囝問我,有沒有朋友. 我答:有3個. 當我唔開心時,會同佢地傾下解.當我知道某些新聞時,都會一齊傾下.覺得有搞笑嘢時.又會一齊笑吓.

跟住,囝囝同我講:"媽咪,你知唔知,我就係冇一個咁0既 ...

恭喜你呀甜芋,望見曙光啦

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原文章由 P-Ma 於 08-5-16 17:12 發表
甜芋

看完你的文章後,都鄧你和囝囝開心。
希望你囝囝有好的轉變。
他會自動自覺做功課。

想問問心理醫生是學校轉介的嗎?

我囝是當他知道你是有目的而問他問題時,(他的觀察力很強),他會拒絕作答。 ...


P-媽媽:早晨呀! 初時學校轉介去屯門醫院.要排期.但之前,我打去小童群益會查詢.佢地問咗初步資料后,都係排咗兩個月,就有心理學家打俾我了.

你講0既情形,我明白.因為我囝囝係某一方面,都有你囝囝唔答0既情形.或者0固答案,好奇怪. 但係評估0固日,心理學家話佢都幾配合.

自動自覺做功課0固度,仲係麻麻地. 又係拖到冇得拖先做. 仲要係做功課時,做下戲. 同我講下笑. 可能佢知我會唔中意, 所以,依家,我已經唔睇佢功課了.

好似禽晚,佢都係10點先做功課. 仲要唔俾我睇.我係隔離上網,佢講咗一首詩0既解釋俾我聽. 跟住就叫我簽名. 我話,我唔知你背唔背得出喎.點簽呀? 佢就即時背咗. 我就叫佢瞓. 點知佢又話:"阿,仲有英文要寫幾隻字喎." 我冇理佢.見佢寫完了.

上星期,係補習社度,佢唔拎默書範圍.搞到老師冇得默.溫唔成. 但係星期6,佢放學,話我知,英文默書全啱.

唉!就係咁,我唔知佢講真定講假.
快樂的甜芋快樂的甜芋

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原文章由 701003 於 08-5-17 21:16 發表

恭喜你呀甜芋,望見曙光啦


003 : 咁佢呢幾日,真係幾多嘢同我傾.但係我要點樣引導佢表達內心0既感受.我要諗下解.
快樂的甜芋快樂的甜芋

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甜芋 你好。

屯門的智能體力評估中心嗎? 小兒就是往那裡做評估,得不到答案啦。
他那時是低班;後來再轉介到屯門醫院見精神科醫生 ,她一見他就叫我們比藥給他吃,說他是過度活躍症;因他入內不停攪冷氣制、電制、檯、椅及電腦,因為家裡的跟那裡的不同,他覺好奇,所以叫他也不停。
後來當然我沒有給他吃藥,也不再約見了。

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原文章由 P-Ma 於 08-5-21 14:28 發表
甜芋 你好。

屯門的智能體力評估中心嗎? 小兒就是往那裡做評估,得不到答案啦。
他那時是低班;後來再轉介到屯門醫院見精神科醫生 ,她一見他就叫我們比藥給他吃,說他是過度活躍症;因他入內不停攪冷氣制、電制、 ...


p-媽媽: 禽日呢度神神地.留唔到言. 屯門0固度,我冇去.所以,唔係好知.

食藥0固度,如果好似你咁講,連醫生都未係好了解時,就舞斷地要求食藥,我認為要3思而后行.

食藥,一定有某種原因.比如:資優0既小朋友,連佢有興趣0既事物時,都集中唔到,食唔食,聽專家意見.普通小朋友,有過度活躍&專注力缺乏症.某情度0既食藥,我覺得有必要.
快樂的甜芋快樂的甜芋

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原文章由 叮鈴 於 08-5-4 20:45 發表

gifted or add (懷疑孩子是add又似資優的,這篇文章很值得睇,唔識睇英文都要查字典睇…唔好隨便俾藥小朋友吃呀﹗)

http://borntoex ...



叮鈴

真的很感謝你,那編文章真的解答了我很多疑團。I read it with the Yahoo dictionary.

Most people have an incorrect view of gifted children and adults. The "gifted" are supposed to be model students, teaching themselves how to spell and perfect their grammar, win spelling bees, have perfect social skills and become neurosurgeons.  This is true of SOME gifted children and adults.   Many others, however, act out and space out in boring school settings, and their increasing anger and frustration may lead to oppositional behavior and underachievement.   They may have sloppy handwriting because of fast thought processes, miss details, and be unorganized and forgetful.  .........

Of special interest here is the concept of the visual/spatial thinker.  These people are at high risk for an ADD diagnosis and are also likely to be gifted.  They are often brighter than their IQ scores. Visual/spatial thinkers often have outstanding abilities in abstract reasoning, visual/spatial skills, and problem solving.  However, they have relative weaknesses in processing auditory information and sequencing, and are often poor at spelling and phonics.  Such people are also called "right-brained."  Visual/spatial children are at high risk for school problems because they become bored very quickly and dislike repetition and drills.  They are likely to act out or space out in school.

這裡所說的真的跟小兒一模一樣,一點也沒有偏差,他的確是 right-brained,他是左撇子。當我看到這裡,眼淚不期而湧出。

但知道後,在香港有甚麼辦法去幫他呢

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回覆 #1 P-Ma 的文章

-visual / spatcial thinker,
-creative type,
-left handed,
-terrible handwritting,
-quick processing skill,
-hate drilling and repeated exercise,

my son got them all. thank you for your information.

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回覆 #1 mattsmum 的文章

http://www.gifteddevelopment.com ... earner/articles.htm

there are many articles about visual spatial learner here

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原文章由 mattsmum 於 08-6-1 22:15 發表
http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/Visual_Spatial_Learner/articles.htm

there are many articles about visual spatial learner here


Mattsmum

Thank you so much!

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回覆 #1 P-Ma 的文章

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create more efficient factory workers. Success in the technological 21st century is not as dependent upon time. At-risk, visual-spatial learners need more time to translate their pictures into words. Think of the time it takes a computer to download a photograph versus the time it takes to download text. If a student has a serious problem with timed situations, assessment by a school psychologist within three years of college board examinations can determine if the youth qualifies for extended time for SATs and ACTs.
5. If students can demonstrate consistent accuracy, allow credit for correct answers even if they cannot show their work. Visual-spatial students see solutions in their mind’s eye. They arrive at conclusions intuitively without taking a series of steps. This is not cheating. This is a different way of processing information. Unfortunately, state achievement tests do not take this learning style into account and assume that unless students show the steps they took to arrive at answers, they don’t understand the material.
6. Avoid drill and repetition. At-risk visual students learn through seeing images. An image is permanent. It is not improved by drill or repetition. The brighter the student, the more turned off to school he or she is likely to be by having to drill information grasped the first time. See if the student can do the hardest problems on the page. If so, skip the rest.
7. Grade content separate from mechanics. While they have excellent ideas, bright at-risk students usually have a difficult time with spelling, punctuation and the mechanics of writing. They need to be given credit for their ideas, instead of being penalized for their inability to remember the details. In a technological era, in which computers eliminate the arduous task of writing by hand, help correct spelling and provide assistance with grammar, the main goal for students should be the generation of creative ideas. This is how they will be evaluated in the work force in their adult lives.

依家我知道為甚麼他憎恨操練.

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原文章由 mattsmum 於 08-6-2 18:22 發表
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create more efficient factory workers. Success in the technological 21st century is not as dependent upon time. At-risk, visual-spatial learners need more time to translate their pictu ...



mattsmum

今天我也剛好在看這編文章。真的十分多謝你。
你推薦的 website 對我來說真的很有用。
以前我用 phonics 教他英文,怎樣他也不懂。我會用 website 所說的方法教他,希望成功。
他計數時,他會有答案;但老師是要寫題解及列式時,他就不懂怎寫。這些一切一切,我現在會諒解他了。
以前,我會罵他,為什麼教極也不懂;有答案,為什麼不懂寫出來呢。

媽媽真對不起你。

現在香港的教育,為什麼不會為這類孩子提供另類教學方法呢? 不知香港有多少這樣孩子,被父母、老師責備,無心向學,走入"其"途。

mattsmum, 你成功嗎?

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同意呀, website 好好呀, 多謝分享.

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these articles solve all my qustions raised before.

son, 媽媽真對不起你。

原文章由 P-Ma 於 08-6-3 11:38 發表



mattsmum

今天我也剛好在看這編文章。真的十分多謝你。
你推薦的 website 對我來說真的很有用。
以前我用 phonics 教他英文,怎樣他也不懂。我會用 website 所說的方法教他,希望成功。
他計數時,他會有答案;但老師是 ...

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再多一點的參考。

learning-styles

http://www.learning-styles-online.com/style/visual%2Dspatial/

創意智商解說
http://www.youtheart.org.hk/index.php?id=337
(撰文者最後的結論我唔係咁認同)

GIFTED

Misdiagnosis and dual diagnosis of gifted child (很不錯哦)
http://www.sengifted.org/article ... iftedChildren.shtml

Gifted adult
http://www.giftedservices.com.au/adults.html

IQ Tests: Where does it come from and what does it meaures
http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia_dyslexic/dyslexia014.htm


SPIRITED CHILD

What is a spirited child?
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-spirited-child.htm

Tips for teacher
http://borntoexplore.org/teachers.htm

Parenting the spirited child
http://www.theparentingclass.com/index.html

the spirited child
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/mgibson92/spiritedchild.html


raising your spirited child
http://parenting.ivillage.com/gs/gsbehavior/0,,45pv,00.html

Thriving your spirited child
http://www.uwex.edu/ces/flp/curriculum/spiritedchild/

caring for your spirited child
http://ucsfchildcarehealth.org/p ... piriteden081803.pdf

ADD child or simply a spirited child
http://www.lessontutor.com/kw9.html

Coping with a spirited child
http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/nibbles/challenges-spirited.html

How the 'Expert' define Spirited/ High-need
http://www.nurturingourfamilies.com/spirited/exptdefn.html

Surviving with a spirited child
http://www.huggieshappybaby.com/ ... 270&_nockcheck=true


Visual Spatial Learner

1. visual spatial learner
http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/Visual_Spatial_Learner/vsl.htm

2. visual spatial resources
http://www.visualspatial.org/

http://www.infolinks.apduk.org/visual_learners.htm

3. introduction
http://www.visualspatial.org/Articles/intro.pdf

4. articles on visual spatial learner
http://www.visualspatial.org/Articles/articles.htm

5. gifted visual-spatial learner
http://home.wsd.wednet.edu/WSD/e ... al-spatial_lear.htm

6. Visual spatial thinking
http://www.giftedservices.com.au/visualthinking.html

7. visual spatial learner Linda Sliverman, Ph.D.
[url=http://www.tokyogiftedacademy.co ... c20670ace67d221cb5d]http://www.tokyogiftedacademy.co ... c20670ace67d221cb5d[/url]

[ 本文章最後由 叮鈴 於 08-6-3 17:18 編輯 ]

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原文章由 叮鈴 於 08-6-3 15:32 發表
再多一點的參考。

learning-styles

http://www.learning-styles-online.com/style/visual%2Dspatial/

創意智商解說
http://www.youtheart.org.hk/index.php?id=337
(撰文者最後的結論我唔係咁認同)

GIFTED

Mis ...



謝謝你呀,叮鈴。

突然間我要看很多英文字,我想就算小兒的英文沒有進步,做媽媽的已有進步了。

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呢幾日我都睇緊spirited child.真是學了不少.謝謝呀!
快樂的甜芋快樂的甜芋

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