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發表於 05-8-25 13:11 |只看該作者

perfect pitch

都唔知個topic放係邊好...就放係呢度啦

我好想知多d.....但多數都係英文既website,唔多睇得明....

有perfet pitch,係咪是但按一個音都分到就叫有架啦....

relative pitch,係咪要先後按兩個音...第一個音做base,聽到後面個音就叫係呢?

另,係咪玩音樂既,都應該識聽音架呢?

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發表於 05-8-25 13:14 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

妳個小朋友係咪perfect pitch?

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發表於 05-8-25 19:03 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

貓公主寫道:
妳個小朋友係咪perfect pitch?

我都搵緊答案,有老師好肯定佢係.....有老師話佢可能係.....想識

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發表於 05-8-26 09:51 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

[ 本帖最後由 CherylMum 於 09-11-13 15:16 編輯 ]

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發表於 05-8-26 11:02 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

CherylMum 寫道:
Is this ability very common among young kids?

我都唔知....我個女係,你按任何一個音,佢都可以係唔駛一秒內答到你個名....e.g c,d,e,f,g,a,b........

我本身細細個時,都係對音好敏感的,亦都係唔需要譜,聽過都可以彈到d歌,但當然....可能個調未必

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發表於 05-8-27 07:34 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

hey Sindy:

It's likely that your girl has perfect pitch. Are you only using C major to test her? Or are you striking the keys randomly? Try asking her to sing something like B flat or F sharp and see if she can sing the pitch exactly.

BTW, having a perfect pitch may be a merit, but not the sole key to a good music learning. If she really has a perfect pitch, you may want to enrich her musical experience by other means as well. (e.g: Give her piano concerto/string quarter and see how many voices/layers she can hear!)

Cheers!

JP

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發表於 05-8-27 11:23 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

Sindy 寫道:
[quote]
CherylMum 寫道:
Is this ability very common among young kids?

我都唔知....我個女係,你按任何一個音,佢都可以係唔駛一秒內答到你個名....e.g c,d,e,f,g,a,b........

我本身細細個時,都係對音好敏感的,亦都係唔需要譜,聽過都可以彈到d歌,但當然....可能個調未必

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發表於 05-8-27 11:25 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

其實之前都有睇到關於談論perfect pitch既topic,我都係同你一樣睇法........呢樣唔係唯一學樂器既好處......點解我要開過topic,因為我同女係某地方玩過一個遊戲....咁完來好多小朋友都要...例如c major.....比個do...然後先可以搵到其他音.....呢樣就係你指既以乜野major去test佢......但我女,其實你只要是但在某樂器上.........求其比個音佢.....佢就會講係c,d,e,f,g,a,b,c,可以話返個名出黎.......唔駛唱do, re, mi, fa,so,la, ti, do咁去搵音...........初時我以為咁好普通...因為我都聽到部份的,點知我見玩遊戲既細路,個個都唔係我女咁.........當日所見,好幾十個小朋友,只有一個係同我一樣....而果個姐姐都話同我女一樣既唔多架....佢亦都表現到好特別咁......其實我女係鋼琴上,係最高同最尾既一個octave唔係咁準確之外...其他音都有99%...sharp/flat都有90%.........咁我好想八

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發表於 05-8-27 11:29 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

恭喜妳!
perfect pitch係天生嘅,無得練出嚟架,
對學音樂會有D幫助,但唔會好大.

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發表於 05-8-27 11:40 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

[quote]
貓公主寫道:
恭喜妳!
perfect pitch係天生

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發表於 05-8-27 11:52 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

咁佢考琴aural個part係咪拎好高分？
>>佢淨係考完一級,之後都唔敢同佢考級啦,所以唔知:D

一首全新歌仔聽1~2次可唔可以準確無誤哼出來？
>>>我諗唔得,因為呢樣仲要埋記性好....佢麻麻地咋記性.....我續個音續個音就得........

我仔而家7級aural有part係俾考生聽一段melody(高低聲部一齊彈) 2次，考生要唱出低聲部，我同我仔聽幾次都聽/唱唔掂

仲有part係俾一段melody第一個音考生聽，彈完段melody後要考生準確哼出第一個音，我地又係唔多掂

>>>我諗我女係最基本的....另一個原因如果佢係的話,我再比d advance D既野佢練

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發表於 05-8-27 14:13 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

How old is your daughter?
I myself have perfect pitch. I can hear any note on the piano and tell you what it is. If I'm not given any notes and I have to sing you a note, then i need a bit of time and it would be a bit off sometimes. so I figure there're two types of 'prefect pitchers'. 1. perfect at note recognition. 2. same as 1. but also perfect at note production. I don't know if it's born or trained. but i believe training might help. but with a person who has no music sense then no amount of music training would help. (just like sports etc).
For aural skills having perfect pitch would help a lot but as you said there're also a lot of other training like memory and chord recognition. but that's more to do with the understanding of music theory and how music is made, rather than listening. because for perfect pitchers knowing notes is never a problem. there's of course advantage to music learning. but i remember when i was little how I went through the tough exercises that my teacher gave me. that probably played an important to my musicality. by the way, I got a music degree from university. and I personally am passionate about music.
Try a little fun game with your daughter: play 2 notes at the same time on the keyboard and see if she can tell you what they are. then build up to three, four, five..... it's fun to do and also it trains her to active listen. then gradually train her to listen to chords (major, minor, dominant 7ths etc etc); intervals... just like aural tests.
I normally score prefectly at piano exams for the aural part.

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發表於 05-8-27 16:10 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

HIHI bambino,

I normally score prefectly at piano exams for the aural part.
>>你好西利呀

我個女而家就黎八歲.....係之前一兩年都有發現佢呢種能力,但無諗過要點幫佢好d........呢排突然諗起要幫

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發表於 05-8-27 23:32 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

For me, having perfect pitch only helps me to be more musical. for example I can play a tune back much more easily than a non perfect pitcher. and aural skills come more naturally. that's about it. if I have to play an instrument well, actually, the secret is lots and lots of practice. and of course you have to have the passion for music. I think not everybody has perfect pitch. maybe 1/10? or 1/50? I haven't done any real research. but how early you start taking music lessons and how you learn it do play a part. I can tell you, more pianists have perfect pitch than singers.
my mother never really cared too much about my perfect pitch. she cared more about how long I practise the piano. but if you want to help your daughter, as I said, work on her aural skills. also, try music dictation with her. play a short single melody on the piano and let her write it down. (if she's good at note writing. but 7 yrs old if she hasn't started theory yet then maybe she can't dictate yet). but since note recognition comes so natural for her, I would suggest you put meaning in the training. example: instead of playing any notes, try playing a chord. ask her to name the notes first, then ask her what the chord is (major or minr) etc etc. as far as I remember your daughter doesn't use Do Re mi. it's a good time to start getting her familiarize with do re mi because it expands her musicality.
sorry for such a long post. as music is my favourite thing I can talk forever on this subject.
I got my music from UBC Canada in piano. I also play the double bass and some violin.
one thing I know that having perfect pitch definitely helps is singing. studying voice (singing) is also a fun thing. imagine your daughter being an opera singer...
my daughter is only 2 yrs old. i can't really teach her music yet so we just sing silly songs all day long.

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發表於 05-8-28 00:24 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

我囝囝都係大約四歲俾我發現佢有 perfect pitch，因為佢有呢個能力，所以我俾佢學 violin 同 singing，而佢一路 progress 都好好。

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發表於 05-8-28 09:48 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

yes i agree with Rachelthew that having perfect pitch would definitely be a big advantage when you learn a stringed instrument. (violin, viola, cello, bass)

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發表於 05-8-29 22:49 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

其實都有好多幫助..............佢小提琴係初時都無點手指位,多謝各位意見

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發表於 05-8-30 07:31 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

[ 本帖最後由 CherylMum 於 09-11-15 10:34 編輯 ]

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發表於 05-8-30 09:14 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

想問咁我阿仔算唔算半桶水pitch...

我叫佢呢埋，然後我會在琴鍵上隨便按一下，咁，佢就走過黎按返我剛按過的那個琴鍵。咁，所有琴鍵加埋黑白鍵，佢成功率若七成。但我無叫佢講我知係"cdefgabc"咁，只係叫佢按返果個鍵。
咁雖然唔係百分百按中，多數錯都係搞錯一"度" (sorry，我對鋼琴唔係咁識，唔知道名詞，即係係好高音ge b flat ，佢按左低音一度的b flat)咁，算唔算有perfect pitch的一半能力架？定係個個小朋友都係咁。？？

有人可以告知嗎？

誰會直率地說出所認識的真實？有所認識的少數人，愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心，向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識，他們總是被人磔死或燒死。歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test，不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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發表於 05-8-30 09:30 |只看該作者

Re: perfect pitch

Hey 睡覺 :

Long time no see! From your previous post, I've already known that your son is very sensitive toward sounds. If you want him to have perfect pitch, you can train him systematically to get it.

However, considering that he is so reactive over different pieces, I'd rather suggest you to teach him music appreciation through analyzing pieces by ears. When I was young, I sometimes became over-reacted with music/literature, too. I viewed it as my lack of knowledge/maturity to appreciate the materials. That's why I could be overwhelmed sometimes. The more I learned about different musical/literary styles and their theories behind, the less I was overwhelmed. If you know how to gain control of his feeling, he'll be able to master music pieces very quickly. His perception of music as a whole would also be much deeper than before as well.

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