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RunningPig 發表於 17-11-29 09:08
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I am sure that good technical talents is one of the ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-11-29 11:57 編輯

Programming is used interchangeably with Computer Science? So hiring a programmer is the same as saying hiring a System architect, software project manager, or an information security officer , or a Computer Scientist.

Now I know who is an outsider.

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ZackMama 發表於 17-11-29 09:36
FYI, learning programming these days does not necessarily mean more screen time any more:

https://w ...

You need to quote a Kickstarter project to prove coding does not need screen time? What serious coding doesn't need screen time?

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 11:59
What serious coding doesn't need screen time? ...

When I first learned coding in the late 70's, there was simply no screen. I would punch my program onto a stack of punch cards, hand the stack to this person in the computer centre, and I would return about an hour later to collect a pile of print-outs. Even the interactive terminals used paper as the output. Screens didn't become common until well into the 80's and heck, we wasted so many trees :)
There is no fundamental difference between paper and screen, it is just a matter of what you're more used to. No one can predict the future, but as far as city living is concerned, there will only be more screens around us, not less.

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FattyDaddy 發表於 17-11-29 12:34
When I first learned coding in the late 70's, there was simply no screen. I would punch my program o ...

I can predict serious programming learning requires more screen time in the future, until there is something to replace LCD screens.

I wonder why do Silicon Valley CEOs limit their kids access to computers and screen time.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 12:46
I wonder why do Silicon Valley CEOs limit their kids access to computers and screen time ...

Probably not for the reason you were thinking of. I doubt if any one of them thinks computers and screens are fundamentally bad for children, just that their kids should have a more balanced exposure to screen-less nature and screen oriented city living :)

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RunningPig 發表於 17-11-29 09:08
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I am sure that good technical talents is one of the ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-11-29 13:11 編輯

even in the US, many many Indian are coming to the US through H1B to work in the tech industries, getting paid less than local US people.

In terms of success factors, no body really tell me what do they think is the most important success factors of Microsoft, Uber, DJI, Oracle, SAP? Do somebody here think they were successful because they hired some good programmers?

If you want to expand the meaning if programmers to mean computer scientists or "tech talents" like what you just mentioned, then it is another story.

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FattyDaddy 發表於 17-11-29 12:58
Probably not for the reason you were thinking of. I doubt if any one of them thinks computers and sc ...

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-11-29 13:09 編輯

That was precisely what I was thinking of. Not that screens are fundamentally bad.

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 11:57
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-11-29 11:57 編輯

Programming is used interchangeably with Computer ...

For people who want to understand more how programming is viewed in the US, here is a related fun reading. People in the industry care about programming enough to discuss if Mark Zuckerberg is a great programmer (an interesting fact is that Bill Gates is but Mark Zuckerberg is not). you can also see how programming, coding, and computer science are used in the article.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-is-not-actually-a-coding-genius-2015-1

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現在公認最成功的IT人是馬雲，馬化騰等. 背景都是LS沒有出國留學過.

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1992英语baby 發表於 17-11-29 13:33
現在公認最成功的IT人是馬雲，馬化騰等. 背景都是LS沒有出國留學過.

本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 17-11-29 13:52 編輯

有錢者。如果你的1T界成功準則只是錢，就可能正確。

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 13:38
最有錢者。如果你的1T界成功準則只是錢，就正確。

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 11:59
You need to quote a Kickstarter project to prove coding does not need screen time? What serious c ...

This is just one of the many STEM toys to learn coding, Cubetto is another if you are interested.

I was just trying to bring up that, the increasing use of computers among kids may or may not be due to the introduction of coding classes. I know someone who teaches lower primary teachers how to use coding toys, and many don’t require tablets.

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看看别國科技巨人做甚麽，大概念上照板煮碗做一個中國版本，不是甚麽非常了不起的事。

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.


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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 15:35
看看别國科技巨人做甚麽，大概念上照板煮碗做一個中國版本，不是甚麽非常了不起的事。
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以前LS無提供IB課程，但自從DBS,SPCC加入提供IB後. IB成績分數平均已經高於所有香港的IS. 原因是LS 學生比較勤力D還是有其他原因？

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shadeslayer 發表於 17-11-29 15:35
看看别國科技巨人做甚麽，大概念上照板煮碗做一個中國版本，不是甚麽非常了不起的事。
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我十年前都是這樣的想法，慢慢就改變了. 大陸現在創科氣氛不會低於Bay area. 時間可以慢慢證明...

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LS 不是全校可以考IB （CKY 除外）.
而IS 大部分是全校考

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ol_bb 發表於 17-11-29 17:25
LS 不是全校可以考IB （CKY 除外）.
而IS 大部分是全校考

所以IS成續below average的同學拉抵整體平均？我以為LS好成績的學生主要是考DSE,至少IB不是LS學校主流所以成績應該是差D

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