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motherotk u seemed to be very angry or u feel sad or frustrated? are u the parent of this school or you are an old boy? 發表於 12-3-23 00:35

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Amaz 發表於 12-3-22 13:55
衰莫大於心死！

Amaz, 如果 compare 皇仁/香港華仁/聖約瑟, 我當然推崇皇仁，但見你將香港華仁比到一文不值, 就真係唔多認同你的留言，下面是小弟之前在 BK 其他 Post 出過的留言，雖然有點離題，但不失為一個參考

皇仁是港島男校之冠，這是事實。而個人意見，香港華仁跟聖約瑟差不多, 對一間學校的分析應不只參考今天的中學成績去睇, 如果只係純論成績, 香港華仁跟聖約瑟都不如鄧顯和林護, 駛乜讀傳統名校吖 !! 分析那些有歷史背景的傳統學校, 應從多角度去考慮, 縱觀以下 criteria, 我覺得港華和聖約瑟差不多

(1)       學校歷史
(2)       過往成績
(3)       現今成績
(4)       校風
(5)       校譽
(6)       舊生社會成就
(7)       舊生 Network
(8)       辦學團體理念
(9)       對現校學生觀感
(10)       個人認識的舊生

如果講到哂冷式名校指標鬥多會考狀元 (1987 – 2010), 相比之下, 香港華仁和聖約瑟可謂小巫見大巫

皇仁名人多到數唔哂, 近幾十年的不用多講, 連改寫中國人歷史的孫中山, 唐紹儀, 周壽臣, 何東爵士, 何世禮將軍呢 D上世紀名人都係皇仁仔, ……聖約瑟.一年出 4 個 10A 都未算架勢, 皇仁經典到一年出過 6 個 10A

來個港島區 Top 3 男校終極對壘, 皇仁真係頂哂班

皇仁狀元: 55 名 (5 班會考班出戰)

香港華仁狀元: 18 名 (4 班會考班出戰)

聖約瑟狀元: 16 名 (5 班會考班出戰)

(1) 皇仁篇

在歷屆香港中學會考，皇仁書院是產生最多「十優狀元」（應考的10科全部取得A等成績）的學校。由1987年至2010年期間，皇仁書院已累積產生了55名「十優狀元」，當中2006年更有六名學生考獲十優。此兩項紀錄在香港中學會考歷史上未有學校能打破。在各屆會考中，亦常有皇仁書院學生蟬聯「全港第一」的桂冠，其各科總分為一眾「十優狀元」中最高者。

6位狀元: 2006

5位狀元: 1998, 2003

4位狀元: 1994, 1995, 1997, 2002, 2005

3位狀元: 2001, 2010

2位狀元: 1991, 1993, 1996, 2007

1位狀元: 1999, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2009

(2) 香港華仁篇

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E8%8F%AF%E4%BB%81%E6%9B%B8%E9%99%A2

香港華仁於歷屆會考出了18位十優狀元

1987年：盧俊佳

1989年：馮天麟（以九優生為當屆狀元，因當年全港未能有考生取得十優成績）

1990年：陳　彤

1992年：許志賢、黃偉強、何煒基（該年全港只有5位十優狀元）

1993年：馮志豪

1994年：何禮文、吳志強

1996年：田志豪、林祥智

1997年：王之明

2000年：蔡宗衡、葉文健

2001年：葉嘉揚

2005年：吳子健

2008年：鍾汶庭，是香港華仁書院第一個8A25*（8科A等2科5*等）狀元

2010年：張柏朗，覆核成績成功後成為香港最後一名8A25*狀元

(3) 聖約瑟篇

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%81%96%E7%B4%84%E7%91%9F%E6%9B%B8%E9%99%A2

聖約瑟於歷屆香港中學會考出產了 16 位狀元，成績輝煌，1987 年為首屆可報考十個科目，最後一屆會考為2010年。

4位狀元: 2002, 2010

2位狀元: 2006

1位狀元: 1998, 2000, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009

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Very interesting discussion here -what an active discussion

Personally while I was a girl's school student, I had many joint school activities with WY boys, they were really charming and low key, yet very talented. Most of my friends I met at the time were now having their own career developments and life achievements. I missed those wonderful friendship and good old days with WY boys

Leaving HK for some times and back to HK, I was so surprise to see those comments. All along I did not think it has been a school with "top" academic achievement when comparing with some others, yet it impressed me a lot on their "independent" thinking and "low key" talents, that's really charm for me.

Actually, I do think that being a secondary school student, it's not the school that push your study, or it's the comparison with others that push you to achieve what you want to achieve, but the internal drive to understand the world and to understand the knowledge.

I do want to know, if the two WY schools are still holding these good old values in education?

It really depends on what you define what is good...

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lugano it impressed me a lot on their "independent" thinking and "low key" talents, that's really charm for me. 發表於 12-3-22 22:22

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motherotk 發表於 12-3-22 18:26
Very interesting discussion here -what an active discussion

Personally while I was a girl's school ...

對你的留言很有同感。

每年一到中一選校的適當時間，都總有些別有用心的家長走出來不停洗腦抹黑唱衰某些學校，一時又話佢聽個 friend 話間學校點唔好, 一時又話聽三姑婆，九舅父話間學校點差，你問佢原因，可否elaborate more? 佢又拿唔出實體證據，只是含糊其辭地遊花園，選擇性解答，迴避問題。心水清的家長一睇就知有古怪 (騎騎...... 我又試下陰謀論分析, 可能有人想踩低學校，想少 D 人報考，使自己個仔易D入閘，十足十行政長官選舉技倆.........斷估冇痛苦，千奇唔好對號入座.....騎騎)

我相信 BK家長都唔係阿茂阿壽，自己想了解間學校自然懂得親身參觀學校或上網搵料，上 Youtube輸入華仁兩個字，好多資訊關於學校和校園生活的短片，我於片中睇到的華仁仔都係好有自信和 passionate的年青人，唔明白某人為何刻意抹黑呢班莘莘學子的家

再者，華仁幾十年一直都行低調的路線，一直都好少自我宣傳威水史，俾人陰謀論話佢唔敢公佈會考入U成績，又話 20 年前好勁，講真，人地無論 20 年前或現今的成績，又唔係上市公司，做乜野要向你公佈先!! 換個角度睇，好似港華只以 4 班會考班出戰都出產左 18個十優, 咪一樣低調，從來都冇四週圍宣揚 (如果又有陰謀論者唔信人地有18個十優，去港華正門銀色 Hall of Fame 研究下)。

以華仁一直的名氣，如果華仁要變質玩買人谷音樂/體育來提升學校名氣，簡直易如反掌，能夠堅持不買人不走精面呢套原則，在我眼內，真係好 Respectful，想起當年在學界運動會中，華仁仔很少跟其他男校為敵，亦不會因求勝而Poaching買人，從來都是被其他男校尊敬的對手。

可能有部份家長覺得華仁低調和自由度大 (但其實我聽翻來學校是教淺考深)的核心價值在今時今日已經滿足不到部份怪獸家長 Unrealistic 的期望，覺得名校係要狂谷學業，名校需要 show-off業績，也有人覺得華仁要轉直資玩貴族制度，做到夠威夠誇咁先至叫名校。

但諗深一層，每個品牌都有佢自己經營的核心理念，照顧佢想照顧的客源，我始終 buy佢服務一般大眾，為普通家庭的小孩提供好的教育。正如你可以帶個仔去福臨門食點心，亦可以去添好運食點心，如你覺得添好運失禮你，唔夠 Grand，咪去福臨門囉 !! 你唔鍾意食，唔代表唔好食。學懂和諧、包容和欣賞每間學校的特色和傳統, 這個世界才會更有趣。

憎人富貴嫌人貧，我發覺自從港華出左曾特首，林公公和孫公呢幾個門生後，華仁就開始比人玩針對…….. Anyways, 理性 D喇

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Kitty1230 Total agree, 講得非常好, 拍手ing~~~ 發表於 12-3-26 16:18

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幾個月前曾同一位F.4九華學生傾咗幾句，以下對話：

我：你學校轉咗校長，好似話新校長渣緊咗，要求高咗，要你哋勤力d喎。
他：好d啦，我哋上緊堂都玩pair牌，阿sir都响道
我：

又話緊咗嘅
他：係呀，校長行過咪吾玩，阿sir都係咁

以上係事實，但我吾知係個學生講笑定對學校有微言，係片面之詞都好，作一個參考

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本帖最後由 motherotk 於 12-3-23 21:54 編輯

Oscarmama,
You meant the new principle is more strict than the old one? is this good or bad?

My opinion:

From my understanding, in the past, my WYK or WYHK friends told me in the old days, they were provided tons of opportunities to have a sense of autonomy in the secondary life development. What they do to explore new projects were out of their own motivation instead of forced by their teachers or parents. Their teachers and fathers (priests) were really supportive of their autonomy to explore. I was so envy to them at the time because my school was so strict and we were not even allow to have long hair at the time. Me and my peers really enjoyed those times with wah yan boys, and they inspired me a lot in my life development.

If the school is going to be "tightened" control through administrative measures, I do have concerns....

My attitudes on child development : environmental factors to faciltiate autonomy is really important. Allowance and permissions to explore life is a must for a child to explore the world.

I want a child to be growing up surrounded by more humanity values, not only surrounded by knowledge or so called "fashionable trends of education" , such as those non-sense terms of "added values", "IT elites", or kind of "creativities" or "academic elites". We have too many those "rubbish" terms and "technical" training out there in the market and created by government officials who wanted to hold their jobs, if you kid is smart enough, these could be learned really quickly without much time.

My concern in this post:

WYK and WYHK are still holding their traditional values? Or they have to change with pressures from parents wo are only chasing the academic results, and wanted to compare with other "elite" schools by abondoning own character or tradition.. If this is true, it's a shame..

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校長要求嚴咗，據聞九華成績差咗，學生太鬆散，新校長想拉翻成績，咁做我都覺得無問題；但因為無論老師同學生都遊閒慣，要執行我諗都有難度。其實我之前都同幾個响九華同港華讀嘅家長傾過，佢哋一致都話個仔就好開心，但佢哋就擔心；除非小朋友成熟同自律。入讀九華或港華都好，小朋友都會開心同自信，但學業就小朋友一定要知幾時要發力，因為現今社會還是放咗學業成績响第一位，真係吾知幾時先遇到伯樂去欣賞呢班千里馬

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motherotk Thanks, are you planning to send kids to WY or you are the parents of this school? 發表於 12-3-24 17:55

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Dear All,

My son got an offer from St Pual's College, in Sheung Wan (deadline 30 Mar, 2012) but I have a delimma between SPC and Kwoloon Wah Yan (wait until July 2012). Should I take SPC and forget WKY " Government central place allocation". Or wait for WKY until July 2012, which means I have to give up SPC. For details, please see "中學交流 SPC page".

PS My son is doing P.6 in Sham Shui Po district.

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motherotk yes, difficult decision to make 發表於 12-3-24 17:56

motherotk How's St Paul College nowadays, in the past, it sounded a good school..different culture as WY.. 發表於 12-3-24 17:56

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ElizaW 發表於 11-6-29 14:22
Don't go to Wah Yan
Why you want to Kowloon Wah Yan, Students and teacher are very hea, no test and little home work only , F4 students always 走堂go to Mongkok 網吧, I have many friends stuy in Wah Yan, Becuase my son study in Yaumati Catholic Primary School, Wah Yan is very rubbish sch, HKCEE result also very bad.
Every F1 students mother also want to change school. But the students are studying very happy, because less testing & homework

Are you serious?

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motherotk Rubbish school? can you provide some examples? 發表於 12-3-25 14:02

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現今社會還是放咗學業成績响第一, to a certain extend yes, but not absolute, depends on what the career expect and what the child's potentials are....

I have few experiences work with "elite school sport or music talent youbng [people " in the university, good english and language ability, but really lack exposures or perspective in problem solving or knowing what they want, plus the attitudes on learning were really too "narrow", very "outcome" based, just meet the average or even below average, with these kinds of perspectives, will never achieve outstanding results, will never have breakthrough in life if holding the same perspectives unless with some challenges or frustrations!!

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Rather risky if his school is not in Yau Tsim Mong district. If I were you, I would register St Paul and try Wah Yan in July.

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motherotk other famous private schools will have quite few students admitted, such as SF, KTS, CPS and others..provided they are band 1 top students 發表於 12-3-25 14:00

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我囝囝今年有考港華，我揀佢都因有港華家長話學校吾會催俗學生，好靠自己努力，但可train到小朋友有自己嘅分析能力，响自己長處發揮。不過我都只係揀咗佢第二。
其實我知如果小朋友夠自律同成熟，華仁的確係吾錯嘅選擇

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motherotk thanks for your comments, what's your first choice then? 發表於 12-3-25 13:59

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Dear all,

Please read the mission statement of WYK below before sending more bomb shells.

Jesuit Vision Statement for our Education Apostolate in Hong Kong:

"We offer a holistic, liberating and transforming Catholic education within a learning community for students and staff to become progressively competent, committed, compassionate, spiritual, and ethically discerning persons with a universal heart contributing to the welfare and happiness of all, in particular the poor and the neglected."

My experience with another "sinking" school SPC is that people should know what they can get from the school, but not expect or "force" the school to deliver what they ask for.

My friend's son had graduated, Form 5, from WYK back in 2008. He was not strong in academic but a very talent dancer, he has 8 grade dancing from the UK Associate Board. He then enrolled an associate's degree, ha ha a solid proof of a "hea" WYK. This is not the end of story, he then went on to Baptist U to study a BA. He is not defeated. Apart from the normal undergraduate study and he is also doing part-time job, using his dancing talent to help event management, to earn some extra cash for himself.

No, he is no doctor or lawyer, but a very respectable young man. I see no wrongs in his days from WYK, and he is a vivid example of that mission statement.

I trust WYK still producing young talent doctors & lawyers but I think the Jesuit Fathers will ask for values of the mission statement first.

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motherotk If this is WYHK or WYK's mission to produce lawyers and doctors, I will not led my son go into it, how narrow is education to be!! 發表於 12-3-25 14:42

motherotk It will be really strange for a school only producting lawyers and doctors as this is not a professional school or technical school, how terrible if this is true for producing doctors and lawyers only 發表於 12-3-25 14:41