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原帖由 stccmc 於 11-6-22 12:47 發表
ANChan59 and Samuel,

I also agree with you two on the primary-CMI-secondary-EMI approach in general, if we talk about bilingual education only. One problem with is approach, which around one third of ...


不好意思, 之前睇錯誤會左你意思.......作為父母, 我完全唔會在功課上幫阿仔太多, 所以就算阿仔成績唔符合我期望, 我都只系在方向上面提醒及提點一下佢, 所以我唔會 more to be done at home by the parents.....

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-22 15:23 發表
Samuel

Hea is a great learning process ............ their learning styles are not the same as our good old days.

One of the example I like to use is :
he turned on the computer all the time with t ...


電腦的確令現今家長又愛又恨.......老實說, 我睇到阿仔佢地用電腦果陣隻mouse移動既速度,我已經知道同佢地系唔同時代既人

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回復 3# samuel89 的帖子

但全英語授課目標如果在初中都唔實施, 我認為等同用美沙酮麻痺住D學生, 結果只系不斷依賴美沙酮逃避,永遠都下唔到決心學好英文......

Samuel,

佷认同以上意见!  孩子学习语言语文的能力, 是超乎寻常的, 裨D決心和时日, 一定学得好.........

问题在于坊间的有水平的中或英语老师应该唔多, 力不从心的老师授课时可能教得唔拖唔水.  好大机会误人子弟. 学习上有高人指点效果会好好多.

书店里曾遇见中二的St Joseph 男孩, 他已是非常享受阅读'Dan Brown' 的小说和Time Magazine, 应是日子有功吧!

姐姐女儿就读名校, 她说有好些老师曾是当年会考的9A , 8A 学生 或是原校旧生.  好似读书成绩斐然的老师多被名校录取了.  不知是否当真?

情况是重视成绩的几间国籍学校是有特别多有doctor degree的老师.

annie

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请放心! 留意你的文章很久!  感觉是句句真!  恰如其分!  

似乎你只有一个孩子. 有点可惜.......

annie





原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-22 15:11 發表
annie, sumyeema1,

You are welcome.

I don't mind to share in BK, but I need to be sensitive and not upset other parents.

So more parents know my personal view on MOI and language proficiency.

ANC ...

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Hurray!  I'm your fans!

annie

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不好意思, 之前睇錯誤會左你意思.......作為父母, 我完全唔會在功課上幫阿仔太多, 所以就算阿仔成績唔符合我期望, 我都只系在方向上面提醒及提點一下佢, 所以我唔會 more to be done at home by the parents..... ...

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原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-22 16:00 發表
但全英語授課目標如果在初中都唔實施, 我認為等同用美沙酮麻痺住D學生, 結果只系不斷依賴美沙酮逃避,永遠都下唔到決心學好英文......

Samuel,

佷认同以上意见!  孩子学习语言语文的能力, 是超乎寻常的, 裨D決心和 ...


所以我絕不贊同大塘小魚內, 小魚會因失去自信心,感覺自卑而令成績每況愈下.......相反我覺得小魚根本就認同左自己永遠都系小魚, 有左藉口俾自己繼續做小魚....

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可能是小鱼有个好大的Heart, 无讲你知咋! 男孩时辰到就会走快两步.前面有大把大鱼给他做目标或箭靶.

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所以我絕不贊同大塘小魚內, 小魚會因失去自信心,感覺自卑而令成績每況愈下.......相反我覺得小魚根本就認同左自己永遠都系小魚, 有左藉口俾自己繼續做小魚.... ...

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原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-22 16:48 發表
可能是小鱼有个好大的Heart, 无讲你知咋! 男孩时辰到就会走快两步.前面有大把大鱼给他做目标或箭靶.


Yeh........ totally agreed.

The medium fish in my family may have big heart without heart transplant......: : :
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-22 16:48 發表
可能是小鱼有个好大的Heart, 无讲你知咋! 男孩时辰到就会走快两步.前面有大把大鱼给他做目标或箭靶.


所以我覺得系大塘好,小塘好, 根本就系性格決定命運, 並不是環境決定命運.......當然如果個塘系"死水"就另當別論啦,根本不論大魚or小魚生存都成問題.....

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原帖由 annie40 於 11-6-22 16:11 發表
请放心! 留意你的文章很久!  感觉是句句真!  恰如其分!  

似乎你只有一个孩子. 有点可惜.......


annie

You are not the first one to say so.........

May be my capability can only handle one, or one is more than enough......

ANChan59
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原帖由 stccmc 於 11-6-22 21:33 發表
It is a good analogy.  My girl's school is a CMI primary school but since P3, there has been another English subject --- Science.  In English and Science the whole class is not allowed to speak anyt ...


由香港大部分都是CMI primary school 推論,大部分人都認同不應該小學就全英教學,.... 但的確有部分人認為應該小學就全英教學(甚至應該幼稚園就開始), 因為中文在華人社會很自然就可以學好. 這理論我不能肯定是否太早學英文,是否可以避免升中後轉全英教學的"陣痛".....
但我還是支持升中後才轉全英教學,因為我雖然覺得英文系邁向世界的最有效工具,但身為中國人, 還是需要先給小朋友打好中文的根基,以免下一代除左黃皮膚外,變成徹頭徹尾的"西人".....


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原帖由 awah112 於 11-6-23 11:49 發表


"竹昇"


Banana even better....
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Reply to stccmc

stccmc

My simple answer is yes, I will follow most of my current approach, not purely bilingual capability, I will add back another critical element - Gifted Education that I shared not much in Education Policy sub-forum, I can't see anyone can replace our roles to face those difficulties.

Background

During pregnancy, our doctor suspected our boy may have Down's syndrome. Before 2.5 years old, he couldn't speak more than single word. After diagnosis, the pediatrics professor identified him as slow learner........... He advised us some options and I started my journey to search, mix-and-match treatment and special education for my son.

During the exploration stage, I knew that gifted and slow learner educations are twins, under similar category. Around 4.5, a sister in Christ reminded us that he may not be slow learner, may be a gifted kid in numbers, logic, reasoning, memory....... He started EPGY at K3 and completed G1-4 in 13 months....... He was confirmed as gifted (IQ 130+) at 7.5 years old.

Along the line, we focused on Christian kindergarten and primary school; we expected a more caring environment for a slow learner...... DBSPD, SPCCPD are all out of our radar........

We are very lucky to have an excellent psychologist guided us through most of the process. How to understand a gifted kid? How to source programs locally and internationally to fit his potential? His hidden physical limitation, like flat feet, writing problem etc........ She introduced us to some NGOs for treatments, as he was very young, 1~2 years to solve those limitations, so that he can enjoy sports and musical instruments afterward.....

From 2.5 to 11 years old, we use Plan - Do - Check - Act to guide him through the process. (PDCA in quality management concept and methodology, I borrow that for my kid's development.) That's why some parents wondered how come a father knows his son so well.........

Bilingual Education

I support "兩文三語", but not just rely on the school. My observation is school mainly for mediocre, can't handle top and bottom 3~5% students (I understand teachers limitations: resources, classroom discipline and administrative works....). If my boy falls in anyone of the two categories, I need to do it by myself to support my son. So you may understand the rationale behind why and how I fine-tuned his language ability (Cantonese, English, and PTH) from time to time by using external resources, also using PDCA.

Now, DSS provides more options for parents, most of them are good schools. Not great, because of sound concept or vision, no or limited track records in academic and ECA....... (Personally, I prefer blue chips and not conceptual stocks ......)

He studies in an elite DSS school, that's not my choice, but his choice. He struggled, survived, mature, excel..... I am not sure it's by luck or heritage, the school has their own way to nurture great kids, that's I am not fully understand. (Some picky parents may argue one or two boys committed minor crimes before ……)  

When we talked about LS, they provided assembly on a weekly basis, they invited public figures or influential people to make speeches on wide range of topics, politics, public administration, education, religions, current affairs ...... they can ask tough questions, challenge the guests........ Even political incorrect to invite Uncle Wah for speech before June Fourth 20th anniversary in 2009......

stccmc, sorry, I can't answer your question precisely and may be side track too much. But your question reminds me that I may make a right choice to be a responsible father and partnership with my dear wife to walk through a tough but rewarding journey together.

ANChan59


[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-6-23 13:26 編輯 ]
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我希望下面的説話不挨打。
我覺得香港目前的教育應該從源頭抓起,教師的質素,衆所周知香港有八間大學,而這八閒大學都不收的學生才去讀教院,也就是次等的學生將來是教師。
所謂,種瓜得瓜,種豆得豆。試問這樣的瓜田种出什麽樣的瓜?
另外,小孩的語言學習是很強的。就譬如内地的學生,他也要面對幾種的語言,英語 方言 普通話,但是大部分都能夠遊刃有餘。除了個別的例外。
我想香港的孩子也一定能夠做到,只要給他們恰當的學習,適當的鼓勵,環境不是大問題。


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touching parenting method...

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-22 12:02 發表


It's very difficult to strike a balance between Chinese and English proficiency, no one can replace the parents' critical role; unconditional love, family relationship and open communication within  ...
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