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ec8333

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Heard these are difficult to get in. Are there lots of HK students ?

Are both of them really good ? Which is better for Science stream ?

How about their school campuses ?
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These are 2 of the very top girls' schools in the UK.
Cheltenham is a little bigger (850 students) than Wycombe (about 550 students) and has more Chinese girls.
Academically both are very strong & competitive.
If you are thinking about Year 9 entry, Cheltenham has her own entrance exam while Wycombe relies on Common Entrance exam.
So you can actually apply for both and delay making a decision until one or both have given you a firm offer.

原帖由 ec8333 於 10-1-12 08:06 發表
Heard these are difficult to get in. Are there lots of HK students ?

Are both of them really good ? Which is better for Science stream ?

How about their school campuses ?

[ 本帖最後由 mow-mow 於 10-1-13 13:10 編輯 ]

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Both schools are good schools.  As a CLC alumni, I would be bias and tell you I really liked that school when I was there.  

I visited CLC again a few years back... Sixth Form college have more HK students.  But... the school do push for breaking foreign students up and have them mix in with locals.  The boarding system has been modernised and the living environment is really good now.  In junior colleges, girls share dormitory rooms and really don't get double rooms till UC 4.  SFC is single rooms and have to do their own laundry.

I am not sure about now... back in my old days (about 20 years ago), they did not allow ESL... meaning that I had to catch up with their local english standard and Eng lit standard while I was at CLC.  I went to MCS before going to CLC, but it still took me a year of special tutoring (at my parents' expense, provided by CLC) in addition to regular english lessons to catch up.

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原帖由 ec8333 於 10-1-12 08:06 發表
Heard these are difficult to get in. Are there lots of HK students ?

Are both of them really good ? Which is better for Science stream ?

How about their school campuses ?


The best way to know the school is to visit the school.  It would not be a bad idea to bring your girl for a trip to UK, visit the schools, boarding houses, talk to the teachers and house mistresses and see whether she likes it.

In addition, schools are happy to provide a short list of current girls' contact and alumni from your home country / town and have them give you referral and answer questions.

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ec8333

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Thanks alot for the detailed answer. More questions :

at what age did you leave MCS for CLC ? What's your recommendation, to go earlier, or to build a more solid Chinese foundation in HK first ? Looking at the school info, they do offer Chinese as a foreign language now, wonder how good the teachers are.  

20+ years ago, English standard for MCS was very high, and you still need tutoring to catch up with their English ? Wow !!

Any idea whether the Science stream is still strong at CLC ?

Did you have lots of time for extracurricular activites and personal development ?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-2-3 09:17 發表
Both schools are good schools.  As a CLC alumni, I would be bias and tell you I really liked that school when I was there.  

I visited CLC again a few years back... Sixth Form college have more HK st ...

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I left MCS after completing F1.  I had native english and french tutoring at home 2 years before going to CLC.. and yes.. I still needed private english tutoring.  At that time, we weren't allow ESL... they felt I couldn't write and talk up to the native level.. and I was laughed at when I went to sixth form in KGV that I sounded very much like the Queen.

If your daughter is in local school in HK right now, you don't need Chinese as a second language at CLC.  I did my GCSE the first year at CLC (LC2, although they offered me LC3 place but my dad said I would have a hard time to catch up the english, so he would rather put me in F2, so I was a year older than everyone else in my class).. and I "A" it right away.  

The nice thing about CLC was that they would explore the child's strength at weaknesses, at least for me.  They allowed me to take many music classes (just a list: piano, organ-- the real ones in church, clarinet, saxophone, vocal classes and harp) and let me go to extra math training and my math teacher gave me more work because I was beyond my classmates' level.

There's no such thing as Science stream or Art stream.  Moving from Lower College to Upper College, we had to make our subject choices:

English, English Literature, Math and French were compulsary at that time (4 subjects)
At least 1 Humanities (Geography, History or R.S.)
At least 1 Science (Physics, Chemistry or Biology ; note Combined Science was not offered at CLC at the time)
At least 1 Art subject (Music, Art, Home Economics or Tech Info)
2nd foreign language was optional, but a student should have at least 7 subjects.
I did 11 GCSE subjects and had a combination of Science and Humanities.  My father insisted on all 3 science subjects because it's HK style of choosing.

The nice thing is that all CLC teachers are so experienced that they have taught the subject for many years and they are all VERY VERY good at it.

I picked up horseriding and polo whilst at CIC on top of everything else.  They also have a nice sportsfield and sports centre.

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原帖由 ec8333 於 10-2-24 13:05 發表
Thanks alot for the detailed answer. More questions :

at what age did you leave MCS for CLC ? What's your recommendation, to go earlier, or to build a more solid Chinese foundation in HK first ? Look ...


I would say... it depends on what level Chinese you would like your daughter have.  My real chinese... hm... I didn't learn it from MCS or at home.  My dad let me come home during all school holidays and I learnt most of my chinese at church.  I went to summer camps at church too.  There was no other communication language but cantonese.

Then.. my mandarin... from living with people who speak mandarin and shanghai dialect when I was in college.. and eventually now cuz I need to communicate with people who speaks mandarin on the phone and sometimes at work, so I picked it up.  I still have some trouble with reading and writing, but my secretary helps me out a lot and I can disguise it.

If you are very worried about the chinese standard.  I would recommend sending your daughter to summer camps in Ching Wah... it's really worth the money and she would pick up the language very well.

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ec8333

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Thanks a million for your reply. Sounds like you had alot of fun at CLC too. Yes, my girl is in P5 at a local school in HK, and I hope that by sending her to UK (prob in a couple of years), she will have an all round education.

With regards to Chinese, I think at least she should be able to read and write reasonably well, and be fluent in Mandarin, 'cos that's the way to go for their generation.

Any recommendation where I can get more info. re: summer camps in Ching Wah ?

原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-2-25 23:27 發表


I would say... it depends on what level Chinese you would like your daughter have.  My real chinese... hm... I didn't learn it from MCS or at home.  My dad let me come home during all school holiday ...

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原帖由 ec8333 於 10-3-1 15:04 發表
Thanks a million for your reply. Sounds like you had alot of fun at CLC too. Yes, my girl is in P5 at a local school in HK, and I hope that by sending her to UK (prob in a couple of years), she will h ...


I wouldn't say I had a lot of fun at CLC.  I did ok.... got into trouble, but I would be anywhere in the world.

I asked my friend where she learnt Mandarin.  She said. 北京外語大學.  She feels this school is better than Ching Wah.. cuz all they teach is language.  She went from not knowing how to read chinese to knowing how to write, read and speak mandarin in 3 months.

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Dear lottieclee,

You got much valuable learning experience .

Since you have been with top schools in Hong Kong and in the UK, and also a very good international school, you would be the right person to give advice in choosing a school.   

How would you compare the study in a top boarding school in the UK and in a very good international school in Hong Kong? Is the former definitely a better choice? Or quality interantional schools in Hong Kong are good enough for academic and other developments and eventually admission to top universities?        

Many thanks!

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ec8333

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ic ,thanks for the info


原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-3-9 14:04 發表


I wouldn't say I had a lot of fun at CLC.  I did ok.... got into trouble, but I would be anywhere in the world.

I asked my friend where she learnt Mandarin.  She said. 北京外語大學.  She feels this ...

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原帖由 lulusing 於 10-3-10 11:42 發表
Dear lottieclee,

You got much valuable learning experience .

Since you have been with top schools in Hong Kong and in the UK, and also a very good international school, you would be the right pers ...


It really depends on the person.  I have seen friends who don't do well in good international schools in HK.  And there are friends who got into Oxbridge schools.  

Boarding schools allow the child to focus (there is really nothing to do except to work on your academics and friendships) Top boarding schools provide real good networking.  It's different studying in UK than in HK.  There are too many distractions in HK.. a lot to do after school and too much entertainment. Up till now, my parents still think I would get into a better school in UK if I didn't leave CLC.  

Local schools have their advantage nowadays.  Learning chinese is important because China is getting strong financially and politically.  The down side is .. I don't think any student or parent can keep up with the ever changing educational policy in HK.  

I have personally put my child in international school.

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原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-3-21 08:18 發表


It really depends on the person.  I have seen friends who don't do well in good international schools in HK.  And there are friends who got into Oxbridge schools.  

Boarding schools allow the child ...


Please see pm. Many thanks!

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