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ISF 未能符合IBO要求,最終放棄伸請MYP [複製鏈接]

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發表於 08-11-25 14:38 |只看該作者
I am a bit confused.  Under IB curriculum, there are 3 programmes, viz, PYP, MYP and DP.  A school may apply for authorization under any of them.  Upon successful application, the school can claim itself to be an IB school running PYP or MYP or DP.

Do you mean ISF still follows the IB programme but not applying for authorization?  What a shame if it is the case.  I think one of the reasons for its high school fee is to support the IB programme, and the IB programme may be an important factor why some parents send their kids to this school.

原帖由 sabun 於 08-11-25 14:15 發表
Yes,Isf still have IBD.Anyway the daughter of my
friend still happy and her putonhua and english were
really good in ISF.

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發表於 08-11-25 16:00 |只看該作者
原帖由 cherubic 於 08-11-25 14:38 發表
I am a bit confused.  Under IB curriculum, there are 3 programmes, viz, PYP, MYP and DP.  A school may apply for authorization under any of them.  Upon successful application, the school can claim its ...


ISF 係有IBD... 即係2年既文憑課程
但佢就無俾批核到有 PYP & MYP  (小學和初中課程)

依個情況 有D似 DBS 咁 將F. 6 & 7 轉讀 IBD咁樣

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發表於 08-11-25 16:52 |只看該作者

Can IBDP survive without MYP and PYP?

I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.

There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 programmes, namely, IBDP, MYP and PYP, offered by IBO.  In fact, it's the IBDP that has drawn much of the attention, esp among those with an 'international' mindset (good guess - IBO was founded in Geneva!).  While we all live in a so-called globalised village, it's no wonder there are an increasing number of parents who are paving for their kids for a more flexible option in planning for their university admission.

The issue at stake is not whether IB is good or not, suitable for their kids or not; but about the 'necessity' in adopting all 3 programmes.

IBDP was introduced 40 years ago, while MYP and PYP are both just a little more than 10 years old.  In fact, not many IB schools have equal regard to the other two programmes as their 'senior'.

Putting it in perspective: in the UK, some of the top-tier schools including Sevenoaks, North London Collegiate School and Cheltenham Ladies' College, only offer IBDP.  

As some of you may know, Sevenoaks, one of the creme de la creme, is among the very firsts to join as an IB school - back in 1978.  It ranked 1st among A-level and IB schools by the Times in 2007.

In fact, it was the first major UK school switching to IB in 1999, with A-levels being phased out altogether from 2006.  Mind you that their students' performance in A-levels has been equally impressive.  Nonetheless, they still - as of today - do not offer MYP.

Some of the more established international schools in HK also go for IBDP only.  I'm sure they have good reasons too.

By the way, none of the students at Li Po Chun, for now, have had a chance to benefit from MYP, not to mention PYP, in their early education.  But I guess no one will doubt their performance in IBDP.

I can't tell the trends or future development of the IB programmes.  But for now, all the above are  tell-tales signs of the necessity of including MYP and PYP in a school curriculum.

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發表於 08-11-25 17:19 |只看該作者
謝謝你的分析及資料,very informative.


原帖由 papa_pop 於 08-11-25 16:52 發表
I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.

There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 progra ...

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發表於 08-11-25 17:42 |只看該作者
Intriguing is it that those PYP+MYP+DP schools in Hong Kong are, in Wisekid's dictionary, no good (or not good enough to get into his list of so called "elite" schools).  Ironically, GSIS also seems to have planned to adopt DP only.

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發表於 08-11-25 17:52 |只看該作者
Would ISF still not be authorized for IBD yet?  Its school name is not listed under the IB world school in Hong Kong in the IBO's website.  

I assume schools only apply to become an IBD candidate school when their students are about to reach the upper secondary level.   



原帖由 JojoB 於 08-11-25 16:00 發表


ISF 係有IBD... 即係2年既文憑課程
但佢就無俾批核到有 PYP & MYP  (小學和初中課程)

依個情況 有D似 DBS 咁 將F. 6 & 7 轉讀 IBD咁樣

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發表於 08-11-25 17:59 |只看該作者
IBO 個網唔見 ISF 個校名,
咁即係 IBD 未批,
會唔會到時又話唔得,同 MYP 一樣 "臨尾香"?
冇 MYP,冇 PYP 唔緊要,
如果連 IBD 都冇,學生手上有乜野考大學 ?

PS 多謝網友告知 HK A LEVEL 等的未來動向。

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發表於 08-11-25 18:04 |只看該作者
原帖由 papa_pop 於 08-11-25 16:52 發表
I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.

There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 progra ...


其實,要入大學,根本唔一定要讀 IBD ,
何況 PYP 同 MYP,這點我估冇人會否定。

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發表於 08-11-25 18:21 |只看該作者

回覆 # 的文章

in VSA 's briefing, they did say that IBDP is very important, while they have MYP and PYP, they said " our curricurim in maths also refers to local school's " or " our students also takes NSW exam" etc. so that there is a bench mark established.

I guess it does not matter if there is no MYP or PYP, it is just that student's training has to be geared towards the IB way.

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發表於 08-11-25 18:45 |只看該作者
好奇問下,維多利亞選了中文定英文做第一語言?
如果維多利亞都做到,中文或英文可以有第一語言的水平,點解 isf 做唔到?
唔好忘記,維多利亞都收本地學生為主,佢地都係講廣東話的多。

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原帖由 mattsmum 於 08-11-25 18:21 發表
" our students also takes NSW exam" et ...


nsw exam 只係一個 assessment ,香港好多 IS 甚至本地學校都有去考。我覺得作用唔大。

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原帖由 nintendo 於 08-11-25 18:45 發表
好奇問下,維多利亞選了中文定英文做第一語言?
如果維多利亞都做到,中文或英文可以有第一語言的水平,點解 isf 做唔到?
唔好忘記,維多利亞都收本地學生為主,佢地都係講廣東話的多。 ...


I may well be wrong but heard that VSA will do A1 Chinese and A2 English.  Can any VAS parents clarify?

As a soon to be ISF parent I am not concerned about MYP at all.  Chance is that my son will not complete high school in Hong Kong.  Of the few ISF parents I know (I'm closer to the expat parents), nobody really cares about MYP.  As long as the school is doing fine at the moment, it is good enough for us.

I have searched high and low for a bilingual programme in HK.  ISF appears to be the only option (in my case at least).  I must stress that I am not saying VSA is no good.  Just that it does not appeal to me. I follow my gut feeling and choose ISF.

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發表於 08-11-25 23:03 |只看該作者
很同意你的說法.
請問你兒子申請入讀小一嗎?

原帖由 tingtingting 於 08-11-25 21:09 發表


I may well be wrong but heard that VSA will do A1 Chinese and A2 English.  Can any VAS parents clarify?

As a soon to be ISF parent I am not concerned about MYP at all.  Chance is that my son will ...

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發表於 08-11-25 23:42 |只看該作者
Fully agreed. What if ISF cannot get authorization to run IBO DP at the end? The victims are their students!

I don't want my child to be a guinea pig and that's why I have arranged my child to transfer to another school.




原帖由 nintendo 於 08-11-25 17:59 發表
IBO 個網唔見 ISF 個校名,
咁即係 IBD 未批,
會唔會到時又話唔得,同 MYP 一樣 "臨尾香"?
冇 MYP,冇 PYP 唔緊要,
如果連 IBD 都冇,學生手上有乜野考大學 ?

PS 多謝網友告知 HK A LEVEL 等的未來動向。 ...

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發表於 08-11-26 09:08 |只看該作者
照大家所說, 都是談論"WHAT IF"嗎?
好奇一問, 你的小朋友會轉去那間學校呢?

我不知道你們說的資料/流言何處來....
對我來說, 我和tingtingting以及我所認識的家長一樣, 跟本沒有介意有否MYP...  

我覺得家長為孩子揀選學校, 一是學校的課程/教學理念與自己期望配合與否.  二是孩子的性格, 學習能力, 甚至將來發展的需要等等.

參觀過2次OPEN DAY和入學簡介, 以及和認識的家長討論過, ISF一直是我們的1st choice.   因為女兒可能只在香港唸小學, 所以我們希望她有十分良好的中文基礎, 對中國傳統文化有較多認識.  同時, 英文亦要很好.

1)  普通話 + 英語, 是NATIVE一樣的流利程度.
這點, VSA一定比不上, 因為絕大部份是LOCAL學生, 課餘溝通都用廣東話.  ISF的學生, 以我所觀察, 課餘都說著流利的普通話或英語.   

2)  ISF以中國文化傳統為為基礎, 特別重視中文及相關的例如歷史, 武術, 藝術等方面的教育.  我看過學生的課本和習作, 中文程度比我想像中更高. 在上武術課的時候同時唸詩詞 etc.  這方面比CIS優勝.

3) 小班教學.  平均10多位學生一班. (少於15人).   課程多樣化, 給孩子多方面發展.

單是第(1) & (2)項, 已經是香港學校中最中最配合我們期望的學校.  

我覺得自己不是什麼ISF "DIE HARD FANS", 因為ISF仍未sent出入學通知, 未知取錄與否.  只是覺得這所學校很適合自己的女兒, 又配合我們的期望.  

原帖由 Grapes 於 08-11-25 23:42 發表
Fully agreed. What if ISF cannot get authorization to run IBO DP at the end? The victims are their students!

I don't want my child to be a guinea pig and that's why I have arranged my child to transf ...

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發表於 08-11-26 10:25 |只看該作者
剛收到通知, ISF收了我的女兒!~

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發表於 08-11-26 10:30 |只看該作者
恭喜你. 你女女報grade 1 or foundation year?

我仔仔現讀FY, 讀ISF 之前係一間全廣東話幼稚園, 返學差不多3個月, 他的普通話和英文進步很大, 課堂上用普通話和英文, 同學仔傾計多數用英文. 我相信ISF 可以令我仔仔有流利的英文和普通話.

原帖由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-11-26 10:25 發表
剛收到通知, ISF收了我的女兒!~

[ 本帖最後由 cecilau 於 08-11-26 10:33 編輯 ]

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發表於 08-11-26 10:41 |只看該作者
我囡囡報讀Grade1.  

她讀維多利亞幼稚園, 英文ok, 普通話還可以.  Daddy和她說英文的, 課餘有上堂學phonic & writing.   普通話不是母語, 所以有參加一星期2次的普通話班, 亦有請人私人教普通話.  

她是10月出生的.  所以曾經有想過若考不到Grade 1, 就替她申請foundation. 不過最終都無, 因為始終不想她repeat一年.

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發表於 08-11-26 10:45 |只看該作者
噢,我囡囡和你囝囝可能會是同學呢!

入讀ISF, 至少我可以肯定, 囡囡的英文和普通話一定會十分好!  :)

原帖由 cecilau 於 08-11-26 10:30 發表
恭喜你. 你女女報grade 1 or foundation year?

我仔仔現讀FY, 讀ISF 之前係一間全廣東話幼稚園, 返學差不多3個月, 他的普通話和英文進步很大, 課堂上用普通話和英文, 同學仔傾計多數用英文. 我相信ISF 可以令我仔仔 ...

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發表於 08-11-26 10:48 |只看該作者
咁出年有機會做同學仔啦. 咁你今年好好同你女女補下拼音啦. 因為今年佢地都學緊啦. 同埋maths, 因為現在學緊個位的加減了. 中文寫字就不多. 英文都不算深.

今年我仔個班都有幾個係維多利亞入的.

原帖由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-11-26 10:41 發表
我囡囡報讀Grade1.  

她讀維多利亞幼稚園, 英文ok, 普通話還可以.  Daddy和她說英文的, 課餘有上堂學phonic & writing.   普通話不是母語, 所以有參加一星期2次的普通話班, 亦有請人私人教普通話.  

她是10月出生 ...
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