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發表於 06-7-22 03:25 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi Sophia,

My son is promoting to P.6 in CWBS in the coming term and my daughter is going to study in Abacus this Nov because she will be 3 years old in Nov.

In fact, my son transferred from Yew Chung to CWBS 2 years ago. He loves CWBS much more than YC because he finds the learning environment in CWBS more interesting and people there more friendly. As for the homework, although it is apparently that they do not have too much homework, they have a lot of exercises and assignments in the school. When we went to the parents' inerviews which we had chances to discuss with the class teacher about the learning progress of my son, we were amazed at the great projects the students accomplished during the school time. The phi of the school is that they'd rather their student do most of the execise in the school and ENJOY reading more books at home.

As for the math in international school, I, being a science graduate long long time ago, do not think that the western people are lack of logicial thinking. Most of the great mathematicians and scientists are from the western countries. From my experience, the math standard really depends on the student's eagerness to learn. Remember I have just mentioned that they are required to do a lot of exercises and assignments in the school. Students will be grouped to sit together during the exercise time according to the results of those exercises. Students of higher ability will be given more difficult exercises whilst those of "less higher" will be given special assistance by the class teacher or teaching assistant. These groupings will be changed from time to time to motivate students to work better. In my son's case, he has been in the most advanced group for the first two trimesters of the school year. When he entered the last trimester, he was asked to go the office of the Deputy Principal with another two talented fellows during the math class once a week to study more advanced science and math topics such as the logic behind suduko and the physics of wave and force. So, Sophia, do not worry about the math. In fact, my wife studied statistics in the university and she appreciates the way ESF is teaching the math subject. It really gives the students a solid foundation and clear concept of math instead of reciting the math operation. When they go to post-graduate level, the difference between the local method and the IS one will be obvious.

The above is just a personal sharing. Hope you won't mind it is too long.

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發表於 06-7-22 03:48 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi cocobean,

As mentioned in other area of this forum, my son is promoting to P.6 this Sept in CWBS and my daughter is going to Abacus this Nov. When we applied Abacus for her, we did not apply other kindergartens at all because we thought she might get a very good priority over others with a brother already studying om an ESF school. Moreover, we were the first one to submit the application form according to the admin office. However, we were not accepted until the third round of selection because there is a policy in Abacus that the priority of the place should go to those kids whose first language is not Chinese and cannot go to local schools (pls refer to the website of ESF). For our case, we are purely Hong Kong Chinese and so, we are in the third category. In fact, when we went to the parents' reception of Abacus last month, we found that my daughter is one of the only two Chinese in the class. The other one is a Taiwanese. I think the competition of ESF kindergartens is getting more keen these few years because more expats are coming to Hong Kong after the recession. So, I suggest you have some spare choices.

God bless you!

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發表於 06-7-23 00:20 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

As for Abacus, my sister's case is a bit different. Her daughter will start K1 this Sep and she submitted an app to Abacus around Dec last year or Jan this year for admission to pre-nursery and her daughter was admitted shortly afterwards. No being put on a waiting list or anything like that. Her daughter is also a "pure" Hong Konger holding no foreign passports. So it did seem to me competition at Abacus was not very fierce.

When your son got admitted to CWBS, did the admission come easy? For my daughter who is going to start K2 this Sep, I want to apply to ESF too and got my sight set upon CWBS. However, recent comments from different sources are rather discouraging in terms of the difficulty of getting admitted for a local Chinese. So I was wondering if there are other parents in this forum who can share their comments or insights about the situation.
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發表於 06-7-23 16:08 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

My son have studied in Yew Chung for 5 years before he transferred to CWBS 2 years ago. In fact, he was in the waiting list for almost 1 year that time. Luckily, CWBS had a new extension which could accomdate more new students of different grades in 2004. That's why he was accepted. I think if not for the extension, he could not get in because when my son went to the interview for CWBS, I met the parents who were with their son. They told me that his son had been waiting for more than 2 years. However, we could not meet his son even after the new school term started.

Is your niece studying in AM or PM class? So far as I know, the "competition" of AM class is keen. You know, parents like their kids to study AM session more because the time is better utiiized.

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發表於 06-7-23 22:32 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

r4parents, thx for your info. So it does seem CWBS is difficult to get in for a local Chinese. I wonder if the situation remains the same even if the first language of the kid is Eng. (which is my daughter's situation and I know it has to be mentioned on the app form) Anyway it looks like we are likely to have to amend our plan, maybe another ESF school!

As for my niece, actually, my sister ended up not accepting the offer because of a problem of transportation. However, for admission to their K1 this Sep she was only offered a place on the waiting list. I don't know, maybe they never guaranteed that pre-nursery students can always secure a place in K1 so admission to pre-nursery and that to K1 are totally different stories!

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發表於 06-7-24 09:38 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi Ekkw,

Is your daughter holding a foreigh passport? If not, even your daughter speaks English in home, they do not treat your first language is Eng. BTW, is yr daughter going to P.1 or other grades? It is easier to get into the P.1 than other grades. The admission policy of all ESF schools are the same. FYI, here is the link for the admission to ESF school, http://www.esf.edu.hk/admission.html. Moreover, ESF uses catchment area to decide which ESF school you can apply. You can go to individual school to learn which districts they accept their students.

God bless you!

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發表於 06-7-24 10:42 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi Momalice

How old was your son when he started studying in Abacus ? For local kinder, kids are accepted to nursery at the age of 2 and to K1 at 2yrs8mos (pls correct me if I'm wrong). How about Abacus ? You mentioned that your son had only joined Playgroup before studying in Abacus. Could he manage to communicate with teachers/classmates soon after the class started ? Do you speak Eng only with him at home ? How is his Chinese/Mandarin level lately ?

Sorry to put up a dozens of questions. I also live in TKO and wanna put my boy to Abacus for kinder. But quite different from u & other moms, I plan to put him to local kinder/primary school starting from K3. (Though all depends on his development by that time). Any mom goes this way ? Can you share ?

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發表於 06-7-24 11:55 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

r4parents, thx a lot for your info. Yes, my daughter is going to start K2 this Sep. I need to submit an app for admission to P1 this Sep, too.

ESF has an unambiguous admission policy and it is written on their website. But it is always unclear to me how they interpret and implement the policy. I heard some info (on this forum and others) regarding that and sometimes a piece of info contradicts with another. So the most I can say about their implementation of the policy is I don't know, tho I would think judging whether a kid's first language is Eng. or another language by his/her nationality is a rough method at best. :cry:

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發表於 06-7-24 11:57 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

esp, for your info, I visited Abacus last week and was told by an admin staff that they'd admit 3yo children or those very close to 3yo when the school term starts.

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發表於 06-7-24 16:32 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

hi, all bk moms, I wanna put my boy in abacus, he was born in 21may05, but do u hv any idea if they hv an interview for both parent and children? if they do, what they ask? it's difficult to get in? as he's holding foreigner passport.
and may I know if all of u put your child in nursery b4 kinder? I 'm still looking for which one it 's better, in TKO, Sai Kung or KLN tong, as we live in sai kung and we plan just send him for 1 year nursery, and for future, will put him in cwb school, so I 'm wonder if it's better to put him to learn half chinese and half eng in nursery if it would help, or just directly in eng nursery, cos I 'm afraid he doesn't hv chance to learn chinese even basic one in school.. thks!

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發表於 06-7-24 16:52 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi, there is no interview for Abacus for both kids and parents because they think kids are too small to have interview and they are confident that as long as the kids can communicate well in Eng, they can teach them well. So, the 1st priority is you yrself to assure yr kid can communicate well in Eng. Some people said that some kids dropout during the school year because they cannot communicate in Eng.

As for nursery, no such requirement for Abacus. My daughter goes to Lalaland in phase 1 of Metro City at TKO. It is ok. Some of the teachers were the TA of Abacus. There is no Chinese in Lalaland.

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發表於 06-7-24 17:13 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

r4parents, hi, but as I know abacus doesn't provide any nursery, am I correct? and we communicate with our kid in eng, but be honest, he can't speak a lot now, and we don't hv maid, even after he went for abacus, he must learn better eng there, right?
and for nursery, lalaland provides nursery? hv u heard any good nursery in SK and TKO? what about greenville? thks again

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發表於 06-7-24 17:21 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

hi bbix, my niece and the daughter of my friend studied greenville. No good at all. There is no nursery in lalaland. But my daughter goes there twice a week for 1.5 hr each time. She can speak very good English now. If you don't have maid, I'd suggest you let him watch the DVD series of Barney. They are quite good. My daughter learns a lot of English from them.

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發表於 06-7-24 17:39 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi r4parents

How old is your girl now and how long has she joined the playgroup ? What's the minimum age for intake to the playgroup of Lalaland ? Do your maid accompany the kid in the playgroup ? How much is it ? Sorry for putting up so many questions !   

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發表於 06-7-24 18:13 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

r4parents, how old of your kid? and how bad is greenville? what about abacus? it has nursery? do u speak to your daugher in eng? or employ a maid? cos as I mentioned, I hvn't employ a maid, do u think it's enough to let him watch Barney dvd for learning eng cos I want to talk to him in cantonese, and I think he could learn best eng fm abacus school.
and hv u heard any good nursery in TKO, KLN tong or sai kung? cos I want to let him study in nursery for a yr, so if u were me, u will choose nursery near home, or the best one? thks

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發表於 06-7-25 00:59 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Can the young kid really understand the English DVD?

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發表於 06-7-25 01:08 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi Esp and BBIX,
My daughter is 2 years and 8 months. What I meant her Eng is good is that she cannot use simple but grammatically correct Eng sentences to express her needs, ideas. She knows quite a lot of words compared with other kids of same age, which was told by the teacher.

In my previous email, I did mention Lalaland and Barney; however, none of them can contribute to the Eng ability of my daughter alone. From my limited experience got from my elder son and my daughter, I think we, parents, should provide a very good English environment for our kid to live with. This should include speaking, listening and reading. So, whatever "genuine" English-speaking playgroup, DVD's, CD's, books and so on are good tools as long as your kid loves them. I am lucky. My maid's English is quite Ok and she always reads story book to my daughter during day time. She also accompanies my daughter to the playgroup. One more point I would like to share about teaching my two kids English is that "never speak half English half Cantonese". The teachers in IS will never understand a sentence like "let's eat 飽飽" or "see 車車".

Hope the above info can help you a bit.

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發表於 06-7-25 01:22 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi BBIX,
Since I only have two kids, I cannot give you too many comments about which nursery is good. However, my elder son, who is now 10 years old, has studied in Yew Chung for 5 years. He joined there when he was 2 years old. Looking back, if I were you, I would choose a nursery near to my home which is what I am doing for my daughter. It is very painful for a small kid to travel for so long to attend a nursery class. To me, there is no "the best" nursery but there is only good nursery where my kids can enjoy learning new things and meeting new friends. Different school may fit for different kids and parents. I like IS very much but none of my brothers and sisters and my friends sends their kids to IS.

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發表於 06-7-25 09:52 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi esp & all moms,

My son was born in May 2002 and he started in Abacus last year, ie, he was 3 when he started K1.  Before my son started kinder, we mainly speak with him in English, and I don't think there was any communication problems for him when he started in Abacus. I think kids can take up different lanaguage quite easily, as long as they can understand daily English, it's OK for them to start in Abacus. And I'm totally agree with r4partents, "No half English and Cantonese."    

Now, my son can speaks in both Cantonese & English.  For Mandarin, as they only have 1 session around 15-20 mins per day and mainly for singing, therefore, he can't communicate in Mandarin yet, but he can understand some simple vocabulary & greetings.  

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發表於 06-8-18 10:58 |只看該作者

Re: any kids studying or studied in ESF (sai kung) kinder? thks!

Hi Momalice,

My child is also studying in Abacus. Which class is yours in?
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