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caa

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Don't understand your point and I'm lost. Further discussion may be meaningless. Anyway going to us or UK necessarily means boarding and away from the family. So people sending kids to another country just implies that he/she almost entirely believes in and endorse the other country's value. And the case before our eyes is that the people sending kids elsewhere are in control of and have the power to change the country's policy...

Yanamami

羅范要準教師北上培訓咪又係離譜，太过份啦！

DreamKid

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-03-14 發表
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 15-3-14 14:57 編輯

如果這真是你的想法，我真是覺得好可怕

shadeslayer

DreamKid 發表於 15-3-14 17:13
如果這真是你的想法，我真是覺得好可怕

這是客觀事實，沒有我的想法或判斷在內。我也沒有說這是好不好。

CaCa800

原帖由 Mighty 於 15-03-14 發表
本帖最後由 Mighty 於 15-3-14 10:45 編輯

我小學時只記得老師教過一首"龍的傳人", 對我來說已經沒有什麼印象，但仍然記得自己不太喜歡此歌。我覺得這不是一首小朋友會聽得明白同理解的歌曲。老師叫我們唱就要唱，冇得say no。對不起！有點離題。

964000

原帖由 CaCa800 於 15-03-14 發表
我小學時只記得老師教過一首"龍的傳人", 對我來說已經沒有什麼印象，但仍然記得自己不太喜歡此歌。我覺得這 ...

龍的傳人有文化品味過呢首＂媽媽聲＂好多喎，如我女唱龍的傳人我反而吾介意。

jolalee

964000 發表於 15-3-14 21:51
龍的傳人有文化品味過呢首＂媽媽聲＂好多喎，如我女唱龍的傳人我反而吾介意。



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Actually, Caca has a point there. Materials we find tasteful may not be age appropriate for our kids. Personally I like the song 龍的傳人, but if that means to our kids it is just 老師叫我們唱便要唱，then no value has been instilled in our kids. My son's teacher in his IS actually played them 小蘋果 by 筷子兄弟！I didn't know about it until one day my 4 year old was humming along with the radio! I then Googled up this song (which was unknown to me until then) and downloaded the music. Now he can sing (part of) the song happily in Mandarin, and it left on him a positive impression in regards to Chinese learning.
Anyhow this thread is not on mandarin acquisition :) I guess we should be glad the school nor China is wise enough to make engaging nationalism propaganda materials for our kids.  That song in question was plain boring and droning... Don't think any kid would like it.

AJW2010

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-03-13 發表
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 15-3-13 20:28 編輯

You don't need to bring it to street.  Just need to bring to the school.  It is the school problem, no need to make it a social problem for others to 公審！

shadeslayer

There is one kind of loving a country that is beyond the current ruling parties, beyond the corruptions and dictatorship, beyond the civic maturity and selfishness of their fellow countryman.  One kind of love that embodies 5 thousand years of civilization, generations of ancestors before us. One kind of love that does not fade as soon as we see something that we are ashamed of happening in the country.

FattyDaddy

shadeslayer 發表於 15-3-15 02:09
There is one kind of loving a country that is beyond the current ruling parties, beyond the corrupti ...

Yawn, you're repeating yourself, what other people are saying is, no matter how much you love that place, it is NOT the same kind of love as loving a person, especially your mother. You are missing the point totally.

shadeslayer

People kept saying they cannot "love" China because of all these recent terrible things happening in China. I don't disagree. It pains me to see the corruptions, injustice and tragedies in China. It pains me to realize that this is "one" of the dark times of China's history. BUT, I am saying there is a kind of love that is beyond all these atrocities. The kind of love that leaves a tiny ray of hope, in my life time or not.

The point is, comparing this kind of love that I just described to a mother's love in the song IS adequate.

May be we both missed the point. It is just a song.

After all, artists compare different kinds of love to different things. That is what song writers do. Some say no love can be compared to mother's love literally. I say a song is expression of emotions and mood, and is an art form which very often cannot and should not be taken literally.

Love is a piano dropped from a fourth story window

I finally found you, my missing puzzle piece.

情愛就好像一串夢

Arguing over if we can compare love to a piano, a puzzle piece or a dream is futile and missing the point.

Of course anyone can disagree and say that kind of motherly love should not be compared to anything in a song.

You actually brought up the strongest argument around here which no one can disagree. This song may not be that bad per se, but the beginning of something much more terrible. No one can rule that out because it is future tense.

shadeslayer

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FattyDaddy  Still repeating  [color=#999999 !important]發表於 1 小時前

Xxxx

Interesting, you repeatedly pointed out something "you" regard as repeats.

FattyDaddy

shadeslayer 發表於 15-3-15 12:48
you repeatedly pointed out something "you" regard as repeats

Hmm, I regard? So you don't think you're repeating?

Fine, dwell on it then :)

bebemuimui

Hi FattyDaddy,

I agree with you.
I think it is rather inappropriate to ask the young kids to link up mother and China.
I am living in Quarry Bay. Quarry Bay is my mother. Quarry bay is coming strong. Oh, give me a break.

If China is your mum, why don't u put the kids to Beijing and let them drink the milk, eat the food and expose to clean air from your mum?



Be honest to yourself. Walk the talk.

shadeslayer

原帖由 bebemuimui 於 15-03-15 發表
Hi FattyDaddy,

I agree with you.

Is it like this, "mother" gave birth to you, brought you up, fed you and educated you. Now she is old, has bad temper, corruption and stinky breath, you now want to cut any ties to "mother"?  And you don't even want to be reminded of existence of "mother"?

bebemuimui

I have just one mother

Yanamami

生娘不及養娘大？生娘為買白粉將个仔賣俾一户人家，人家悉心湊大个仔，而家生娘見个仔事業有成，要攞番个仔？但个仔十分不孝，从來只知養佢育佢既養娘，对生娘毫無記憶同感情……好似粵語場片~

shadeslayer

原帖由 Yanamami 於 15-03-15 發表
生娘不及養娘大？生娘為買白粉將个仔賣俾一户人家，人家悉心湊大个仔，而家生娘見个仔事業有成，要攞番个仔 ...

That is actually fine. But to deny the existence of the biological mother is inability to accept reality.

Mighty

I dont think anyone here is denying the existing of a so called biological mother...but we are saying that we cant relate that as our 'real mother' and say hey I love you.  Got it?

shadeslayer

原帖由 Mighty 於 15-03-15 發表
I dont think anyone here is denying the existing of a so called biological mother...but we are sayin ...

It is you who don't get it. I have said it is ok for individuals to deny a country, to immigrate, to decide cutting ties with one's biological mother. These all are individual choices. This very topic was about Sacred Heart as a school community, should teach our kids to know our "mother/motherland", or should it teach our kids to ditch it, in the theme-of-the-month named "China".  Did the school do terrible things to the students?  Honestly?

Some say there is a subtle difference between mother and motherland. Of course they are not the same but guess why English use the word motherland?  What is the connotation of motherland? Why form a word with two words "mother" and "land"?  What is it trying to imply?