請問國際小學最平學費係邊間呢?

WYmom

原帖由 nintendo 於 09-12-16 21:51 發表
跟據政府網頁, DSS 係要提供本地課程的

http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=1475&langno=2

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所有資助中學及小學均可申請加入直資計劃。辦學團體亦可向政府申請分配校舍，作為開辦直資學校之用。參加 ...

Creative secondary school has got MYP only, not yet IBD.  They offer both HK local diploma exam and IBD, so only some students will take IBD.  Their principal was the ex-principal of West Island School and Phoenix (now Renaissance College), who is very experienced in IB programs.  Its school fee is around HKD50,000 a year.

LPC has been established for many years, it only has F.6-7 IBD.  Its school fee is HKD200,000 a year, taking only the very top students in HK and from other countries.

I believe now the new local DSS must offer local diploma program, while they may also allow some students to take IBD if they can get IB authorisation.

lulusing

Dear Mighty,

Please see PM. Many thanks!

Lulusing

原帖由 Mighty 於 09-12-16 18:05 發表
不管尚宮大人是DEFENDING　THE SCHOL　OR　SELLING THE　SCHOOL,家長一定不会只聴一個網友意見、便信定学校是好的。　

我只是覚得選択学校不応従是否行IB来決定。

看竹葉青是認識直資学校的、相信選校応該没問題。 ...

lulusing

Dear Mighty,

Please see PM. Many thanks!

Lulusing

原帖由 Mighty 於 09-12-16 18:05 發表
不管尚宮大人是DEFENDING　THE SCHOL　OR　SELLING THE　SCHOOL,家長一定不会只聴一個網友意見、便信定学校是好的。　

我只是覚得選択学校不応従是否行IB来決定。

看竹葉青是認識直資学校的、相信選校応該没問題。 ...

lulusing

Dear Mighty,

Please see PM. Many thanks!

Lulusing

lulusing

Dear Mighty,

Please see PM. Many thanks!

Lulusing

lulusing

Dear Mighty,

Please see PM. Mny thanks!

Lulusing

oooray

原帖由 尚宮大人 於 09-12-17 00:23 發表

其實，本地新初中課程及國際文憑 IB MYP 課程兩者，係可以無衝突。好似啟思中學校的課程係，揉合兩者。教局知道 DSS 學校有本地課程的元素，學校有無 IB 認可，教局根本唔在乎。 ...

以小人有限理解，廣義上IB只是一個評審及認證機制(最粗糙說法像ISO的理念，[還是米芝蓮星級餐廳評級?]不同之處是ISO已"外判"至世界各地許多認可認證機構)，當然硬件/軟件上有嚴格客觀要求；但實際上成效如何，主宰於軟件(學校管理層及老師)如何運作。
多年前曾見識過某教育集團之幼稚園部IB家長講座，得悉IB之精神，及該機構個別分校的認證情況，個人來說是欣賞的。但親身經歷及偶然與校方管理層閒談中，個人感覺實際執行情況跟理想情況還差很遠。
箇中原因，老師個人素質，及如何執行的力度有關鍵性因素，而這點正是家長們無法評估的。
(當然，如果沒有IB認證，結果也許更爛...天曉得?)

tingtingting

My understanding is that, since those DSS schools are receiving government subsidies, they must have at least 51% of their students take the local public exam. That why HKUGA decided not to run two systems under the same roof and gave up IB Diploma two or three years ago.  One school-two systems sounds like a very challenging concept.  Let's see what those DSS schools will deliver under such a system.

Cherishvalue

Agree - it is challenging to have two systems under one roof.  

Per my understanding, not every student from 啟思 will take IBDP. Aiming to have  "每年付出 3.5 萬，回報 6.3 萬"  may not be realistic -------

1) Quoting from DBS, its IBDP program will cost $4800 + $5000 (boarding) for the bridging year.  

2) For LPCUWC, the full fee for 2010/2011 will be HK$200,000* (provisional).  

Also will the government provide subsidy for the DP program is doubtful.   

原帖由 tingtingting 於 09-12-17 10:30 發表
My understanding is that, since those DSS schools are receiving government subsidies, they must have at least 51% of their students take the local public exam. That why HKUGA decided not to run two sy ...

oooray

原帖由 uymonther 於 09-12-17 12:02 發表
早幾年我都有去聽過IB講座,同OOORAY一樣聽落感覺是良好的，而且果時O岩O岩話出334，真係一D信心都無，但係返到屋企諗真D，O係香港(除非你簡左老牌國際學校)D學校搞IB同轉334又有咩唔同呢?仍然係用香港教育制度出身的老師，只不 ...

再進一步，比你做CEO，你響香港去搞間好o既IB World School，點搞?
硬件先唔講。
1. 有好o既老師，邊度搵?本地名校撬過來?幾錢人工?係唔係Full Team都認同IB理念?
2. 認同IB理念o既學生/家長們:我絕對唔懷疑香港家長願意俾錢搵一間好學校o既誠意，但係咪大部份人認同學校理念還是人云亦云，人氣效應?
LPC個人冇研究/冇認知，如其他家長話齊，要吸引精英學生入讀的話，唔收你HK$200K一年，點交到貨? (如果做得好，我覺得超值添[雖然打個7折我都俾唔起])
所以香港會唔會有平靚正IB World School?
我諗呢一代都唔會有。

nintendo

原帖由 尚宮大人 於 09-12-17 00:23 發表

其實，本地新初中課程及國際文憑 IB MYP 課程兩者，係可以無衝突。好似啟思中學校的課程係，揉合兩者。教局知道 DSS 學校有本地課程的元素，學校有無 IB 認可，教局根本唔在乎

你似乎誤會我個意思.

在乎的, 會係部分家長. 宏信高調的話搞 IB, 當然會有家長會因為 "有 IB" 而選宏信. 如果多年後話搞唔成, 家長難免失望. 這個 "貨不對辦" 的情形的確試過在幾間學校發生過.

IB 係唔係咁好, 各有各睇法. 即係有人中意食橙, 亦有人中意食萍果. 不過如果當初我明明係黎比錢賣橙, 但比晒錢你先話橙冇貨, 逼我要萍果, 我直情可以去消委會投訴你啦.

至於推行 IB, 真係唔係咁簡單. 要知道 IB PYP & MYP 係冇明確的 SYLLABUS, IBO 比學校一個好 "廣" 的課程 GUIDELINE, 學生會被要求每年學某 D  SKILLS, 但真正內容唔會有規範, 課程要老師自己開發. 老師甚至管理層的經驗好重要. 幾時教 D 乜, 幾時教得表面 D , 幾時要教得深入 D, 要控制得宜.

好多標榜 "會" 提供 IB 或 "類似 IB" 的本地學校, 都因為主要聘請了欠缺 IB , 或甚至任何西方教育模式經驗的本地老師, 而搞到學校課程三不像.

回到現實問題, 其他網友都解釋了 DSS 要搞 IB 係有特定的 "條件", 要入 IB 班就唔可能收政府資助.

其實我都覺得多 D 新學校係好事, 家長多 D 選擇. 不過既然係新學校, 家長都係要靠一個 "信" 字. 如果實際實行咁難, 家長就要小心考慮.

WYmom

Actually, Logos Academy is the first DSS which claims to adopt IB and its school fee is relatively very low, only HKD26K-30K per year.  It was established in 2003 and now it has classes upto F.7, and still they have not joined IBO yet.  According to the school's information, their students will take HK local diploma and IBD together.  Their current F.5-7 students will however still take HK local exams only as said below:

"拓展階段四、五及通達階段一、二即傳統學校的中一至中四，將參與新高中及國際預科文憑試；2009-2010學年中五及中七將參與現行公開試。按教育局批核的結構而言，拓展階段四以上各級每級可有五個班."

So it takes at least 3 more years to see if they can honour their claims and whether their school fee on F.6-7 can stay at $30K+ a year or not.

nintendo

(1) IB 的確似 ISO, 好科學化, 亦有晒 DOCUMENTATION. 但講到尾都只係一個 "準則". IB 不會是最好的課程, 亦並非適合每個學生. 但如果你認同 IB, 當然要揀有認證的 IB 學校, 其實在 IBO 網頁有齊香港 IB 學校的名單. 如果唔介意有冇 IB, 根本選擇會很多罷.  
(2) HK 已被認證的 IB 學校差唔多全部都係國際學校, 老師大都不是本地老師. 他們的工資, 住屋, 子女教育...都令學校的 "成本" 很高. 要維持較低的學費, 現實是很難了.
(3) LPC 是精英學校, 是其中一間國際有名的 UNITED WORLD COLLEGE, "江湖地位" 崇高. 學生大都拿獎學金, 學費開價幾多, 都是個數字罷了, 我相信沒有幾多個要比 "全費", 而學校應該是由李氏的某個基金支付主要開支罷.

[ 本帖最後由 nintendo 於 09-12-17 14:14 編輯 ]

lulusing

Do you consider ESF schools? They are quality while school fee is not too high. It is not so high as
10 幾萬 1 年 at primary level. You may also check if the annual fee of ESF secondary schools is affordable.

However, many factors matter, e.g. the age of the child, the school s/he is attending.

Good luck!  

[quote]原帖由 尚宮大人 於 09-12-19 04:45 發表
:) 當然，我都想比自己仔女，讀國際學校，但國際學校動不動就 10 幾萬 1 年，真係有心無力。本人同樓主的情況，大致一樣。平心而論，對大家黎講，「宏信書院」依類直資學校，未必係大家的首選。但，對於我依一類「一般中產」人士，「宏信書院」已經係最好的（買唔到豪宅，咪買居屋）。各位家長，共勉之。

elizatyy

How about CAIS? K-12加拿大式教育

mat媽

原帖由 elizatyy 於 09-12-20 16:39 發表
How about CAIS? K-12加拿大式教育

學費唔算貴... 不過下年度 k3 轉全日班, 應該會貴 d, 唔知幾錢呢?