MCS vs CKY

taiwong

請問MCS同CKY應該點揀

kyliema2006

請問MCS=瑪利諾？
MCS都好好呀，學生品德好，又唔駛比錢。不過讀書會有壓力囉，大抽獎收生，學生質素如何就會是個謎。

CKY就無讀書的壓力，一條龍學校，學校語境優良，語文訓練有數。不過新學校，無track record，同埋學費貴囉。

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-12-28 10:42 編輯 ]

taiwong

其實我都係擔心呢一点，因為只有5年歴史，信心唔夠，不過佢就投資建新校舍，將來嘅環境就相當理想。有無讀緊嘅家長可以俾意見及信心我呵！

kyliema2006

原文章由 taiwong 於 07-12-28 11:09 發表
其實我都係擔心呢一点，因為只有5年歴史，信心唔夠，不過佢就投資建新校舍，將來嘅環境就相當理想。有無讀緊嘅家長可以俾意見及信心我呵！

我就係囉。選校是一種學問，真係人夾人緣，要看看孩子是屬哪一類型，選取哪種學校。

若果孩子是戰鬥格，會越戰越強的話，傳統學校會較好。因為有很多發揮的機會。

若果孩子像小兒一樣，喜歡閱讀（但討厭因考試而閱讀的話），哪在蔡繼有就如魚得水了。我不敢說他的英語水平很好，相比在國際學校的學生，可能仍有距離。但現時小二已可自行閱讀過100頁的junior fiction。普通話亦初見成績，所以我會說蔡繼有訓練語言是有一套的。例子一，孩子哪一班最近發生了頑皮事，令到兩位班主任及主任齊齊向學生訓示，因為教師各操不同語言，訓示都要以英語、普通話及廣東話，三語齊下。二年級開始，學生在學校祇能說英語或普通話，孩子在這個隨時要轉台的學習環境下學習十二年，他們的語文能力應該不會太差的。

但家長以為孩子在蔡繼有就讀，就可完全放手任由學生自行發揮的話，就大錯特錯了。蔡繼有的學生，成績亦會參差，要強或要弱，主要取決於家長投入多少，學校可營造兩文三語的語境，但單靠學校的教導是不足夠的，課餘的閱讀才能使學生有長足的進步。在蔡繼有，家長都要培讀的，目的要養成學生持之以恆的閱讀習慣，亦要跟進學生進度，及不時作出補救行動。與傳統學校的分別是，學習壓力無咁大，競爭對象不是別人，卻是自己。

若孩子懶散，缺乏自學能力，需要不斷鞭策才學習的話，在蔡繼有的輕鬆學習氣氛之下，孩子可能會更為懶散、成績可能會很差。所以選擇學校是要人夾人緣呢！正所謂，吾之良藥，汝之砒霜。

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-12-28 11:51 編輯 ]

salina0817

MCS as CKY is still no graduate and no track record. MCS has long history and good reputation. And it is free.

kyliema2006

原文章由 salina0817 於 07-12-28 12:32 發表
MCS as CKY is still no graduate and no track record. MCS has long history and good reputation. And it is free.

對，蔡繼有都幾貴架，預科還會行IBD，相信屆時學費會更貴點。至於track record，試試到心儀的學校，與他們的學生及教師傾談，看看他們的反應及語文能力呀。我就有一位朋友，到過蔡繼有及另一間直資，與他們的學生傾談及聽過老師說外語，之後都有著不同的感受呢！試試感受兩間學校的不同氣氛氛啦！

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-12-28 12:47 編輯 ]

甜cc

MCS Of course because it is free of charge.   The standard of the school is also very good and with a very good secondary school.

原文章由 taiwong 於 07-12-28 09:29 發表
請問MCS同CKY應該點揀

ac747

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-12-28 10:35 發表
請問MCS=瑪利諾？
MCS都好好呀，學生品德好，又唔駛比錢。不過讀書會有壓力囉，大抽獎收生，學生質素如何就會是個謎。

CKY就無讀書的壓力，一條龍學校，學校語境優良，語文訓練有數。不過新學校，無track record，同埋學費貴囉。 ...

Dear Kyliema2006,
The 2 schools are very different, it is certainly a dilemma for you - it is often very difficult for the current generation of parents : having no choice is sad, but too many choices is difficult as well.
I have a collegaue whose son studies in CKY from its first establishment - so he is in P6 now. He rates it highly for most of the obvious reasons people mentioned above, and his child just loves going CKY everyday. For me this is important, I don't want my child afraid of going school because of too much homework / exam, while I treasue her self - learning atittude / fond of reading...(but it doesn't mean that parent can pay little time with the child, still my collegaue spends his weekend in reading / reviewing with his son) (PS my friend is a civil servant and only has to pay a portion of the tuition fee...)
I have also another collegaue who daughter studies in MCS (? P1 or P2 now, not too sure).
Her mother spends ~ $20000 in letting her attending all sorts of classes / privat tutoring, mostly invested in English.
She has to "studies hard" in accompanying the daughter as well. Parents often have to do the homework with the child too...(her daugter used to be quite self-discipline and MCS is not too difficult for her)
Perhaps you could also imagine the very differnt school lifes your child and you will have, your child's character, and see if you could make a different thoughts.
(Also, I used to hear that CKY has very good quality teaching for her children even though it is a relatively new school)
N.B. conflict of interest: My daughter will enter CKY's P1 next year).

regards and cheers

rdc888

Hi ac747,
I also have the same problem of choosing which P.1 for my kid.  We are luckily admitted St. Mary's during 1st round allocation.  And my kid also got accepted to SKY P.1.  Do yo know anything about St. Mary's?  Could you share.
Thanks.

kyliema2006

原文章由 ac747 於 07-12-30 23:10 發表



Dear Kyliema2006,
The 2 schools are very different, it is certainly a dilemma for you - it is often very difficult for the current generation of parents : having no choice is sad, but too many choi ...

Dear ac747,

恭喜令千金將成為蔡繼有的一份之，小兒正在蔡繼有就讀小二。無可否認，蔡繼有是一個學習樂園，我認識有些家長他們讓家中的大哥大姐插班就讀，我認識的都是來自傳統名校。體驗過傳統及活動教學之後，他們的評語是在蔡繼有的語言能力及common sense都會較高，因為學校鼓吹閱讀嘛。在這一個多年頭的體驗，蔡繼有給予孩子「空間」，優閒的空間、創作的空間及閱讀的空間，建議家長好好珍惜這些「空間」培養孩子閱讀及自學的習慣。

小兒喜歡閱讀，他在課外書獲得的知識遠比學校得到的多，老師多次稱讚他的詞彙豐富。因小兒的性格適合蔡繼有的教育理念，而學校亦能履行他的承諾，故我也是蔡繼有的擁護者之一。

不過，大多數家長仍會深相「名校」的保證，所以我覺得各人取向不同，亦不需硬銷學校，始終性格不同應物識不同的學校。

ac747

原文章由 rdc888 於 07-12-31 00:04 發表
Hi ac747,
I also have the same problem of choosing which P.1 for my kid.  We are luckily admitted St. Mary's during 1st round allocation.  And my kid also got accepted to SKY P.1.  Do yo know anything ...

Dear rdc888,

First of all, congratulation to you. But I'm sorry  that I don't know anyone studying in St. Mary, but I believe it is a dream school for most, and my impression is that it is of similar rank / style as MCS.
Hope that you could solve your welcomd trouble soon.
And see if our children could be classmates next year.
cheers

ac747

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-12-31 09:57 發表


Dear ac747,

恭喜令千金將成為蔡繼有的一份之，小兒正在蔡繼有就讀小二。無可否認，蔡繼有是一個學習樂園，我認識有些家長他們讓家中的大哥大姐插班就讀，我認識的都是來自傳統名校。體驗過傳統及活動教學之後，他們的評語 ...

Dear Kyliema2006,
Oh great, your son has been studying in CKY, so you know a lot about CKY already.
I very support your statement:
"性格不同應物識不同的學校", so I hope your dilemma would be solved soon.
I came from a famous traditional secondary school in Mongkok, I 'm afraid that "traditionally famous school" not necessarily mean good quality and certainly offer no gurantee at all. But as you said, different people has different belief, and need no one to hard sell anything.

regards

WYmom

原文章由 reneeleung 於 07-12-31 23:43 發表
你可以聽下劉小慧有電台訴心事家庭中講佢個女讀ＭＣＳ的情況同壓力。:-|

個一集係劉小慧，黎Ｘ恩，同湯寶如做嘉賓

What did it say?

I also heard from a friend whose kid studying MCS for a few years, she spent a lot of money for her after school tutor classes in English as well.   If MCS is an English primary school, why their students still need to take so many English tutor classes?

[ 本文章最後由 WYmom 於 08-1-1 09:33 編輯 ]

ChiChiPaPa

原文章由 WYmom 於 08-1-1 09:31 發表


What did it say?

I also heard from a friend whose kid studying MCS for a few years, she spent a lot of money for her after school tutor classes in English as well.   If MCS is an English primary sc ...

http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/radio1/familyaffairs/20071118.html

在第二段，34分鐘後。

kyliema2006

原文章由 WYmom 於 08-1-1 09:31 發表


What did it say?

I also heard from a friend whose kid studying MCS for a few years, she spent a lot of money for her after school tutor classes in English as well.   If MCS is an English primary sc ...

這種補習的心態根本很普遍，強者為保地位，當然要補；中游或以後的梗加不消說。在傳統學校學習難免會以分數、名次掛帥，孩子的成功或失敗全憑分數的高低，與其它孩子比較更加在所難免。所以家長的壓力都很大，哪些可以豁出去的家長、能夠給予孩子學習空間的，可能較適合就讀傳統名校。

聽說一位就到DGS的家長，老師一句孩子的泳術不滿意，家長就趕快找私人教練惡補。問題在於孩子泳術不好，責任不在於學校，而是家長，這－－就是壓力啦！當然，仍有些孩子和家長是讀得開心、快樂的，哪要看看個別小孩的特質了。

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 08-1-2 09:42 編輯 ]

WYmom

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 08-1-2 09:40 發表


這種補習的心態根本很普遍，強者為保地位，當然要補；中游或以後的梗加不消說。在傳統學校學習難免會以分數、名次掛帥，孩子的成功或失敗全憑分數的高低，與其它孩子比較更加在所難免。所以家長的壓力都很大，哪些可以豁出去的 ...

Yes, you are right.  Moreover, for MCS, not all girls can enter their secondary school,  as far as I know, only 80 seats (the top 80 among 200) are guaranteed, the rest will have to try their luck in the lucky draw.  So those who are ranked after 80th will be quite frustrated.

So it is really not easy to 豁出去 in 傳統名校, or you simply cannot if the ultimate target is getting into MCS secondary.

kyliema2006

原文章由 WYmom 於 08-1-2 10:13 發表


Yes, you are right.  Moreover, for MCS, not all girls can enter their secondary school,  as far as I know, only 80 seats (the top 80 among 200) are guaranteed, the rest will have to try their luck i ...

請問　妳知否天神嘉諾撒入讀St Mary College的名額有多少呢？

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 08-1-2 11:16 編輯 ]

WYmom

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 08-1-2 10:18 發表


請問　妳知否天神嘉諾撒入讀瑪利諾中學的名額有多少呢？

Oh, sorry I don't know.  But is 天神嘉諾撒 now through train to St. Mary College?