PLAYGROUP的意義

Pochaccodog

遊戲小組原本是為核心家庭而設計的，因為沒有以前大家族般那麼多小朋友可以一齊玩，欠缺了群體生活的機會，而遊戲小組一般應該有以下的好處：

對BB而言：
- 有群體生活的機會和經驗, 學習社會的規則和生活, 包括與
   人分享、秩序、人際相處等
- 學習服從其他成年人(導師和其他家長)的指示, 有利於將來
   的學校和群體生活
- 享受生命中學習的樂趣, 提升將來主動學習的能力和動機
- 從活動中領取新經驗

對家長而言
- 可以結識其他的家庭, 形成一個社會或社區中的支持網絡
- 在家長和導師的分享中得到認同和情緒的支持, 學習到欣賞
  BB每日的進步和成長, 舒緩育兒的壓力
- 從輕鬆和歡愉的心情以嬰孩相處, BB得到更大的成就感和
   認同感, 更能提升將來主動學習的能力和動機
- 在親職關係上建立到信任和良好關係的根基
- 分享育兒心得

如果想知一個教育機構只是為左$$還是真正做教育, 不妨問問他們的成立理念, 但一般都是為了市場需要而設立課程, 但其實每星期一至兩小時的PLAYGROUP背後, 仲有好多跟進工作是需要的, 真正愛孩子的家長們, 你們又願意負出幾多?

有一位負責PLAYGROUP的社工FANNY同我講過, 如果我心態是想將教養兒子的工作自小便假手於人, 年邁之時, 不要埋怨子女將你的生活同樣假手於人, 因為是我自小教他如何進行社會分工, 自小未有認真打好親職關係的根基, PLAYGROUP是成長需要的活動, 而不是尋求學術知識的活動. 我認同, 亦有反省.

Pochaccodog

From MAKAKA at 元朗討論區

Re: PLAYGROUP的意義  
咁又好似講得幾岩, 外國又好似冇香港人咁現實參加D班要好多著數, 會搞D什麼日文PLAYGROUP 或者 廣東話PLAYGROUP WOR!

我係香港區做野,都發覺那邊開始多了中文的PLAYGROUP, 或者, 真係母語PLAYGROUP 才是對LA.

最近找PLAYGROUP時, 找到一些外國網站都係講差唔多的野!

What is playgroup?
Playgroup is for children aged 0-4 years and their parents or carers. Close to 36,000 families attend playgroup each week in all corners of Victoria at community venues such as maternal and child health centres, kindergartens, halls, community centres and primary schools.

Playgroups are as different as the people in them. Some of the different models include Roster, Paid leader and Special interest playgroups.

What children get from playgroup
Playgroup-aged children are going through a stage of rapid brain and skill development. At playgroup children can:

develop their skills of cooperation through music, group singing, free play and snack time
develop verbal and non verbal communication skills through their contact with other children and adults
develop fine and gross motor skills
gain better body control, hand to eye coordination, spatial awareness and balance when they play with balls, sand, blocks, puzzles, playdough, paint and paste
discover shape, size, texture, quantity and consistency when they play with dough and clay
learn to recognise colours, develop fine motor skills and express emotions by experimenting with paint, collage, chalk, crayons and stamps
extend their experience of literacy in a social environment.
Why adults go to playgroup
Playgroup can be a lifeline to parents with children aged 0-4 years who might not have any other opportunity to get to know local parents going through similar experiences.

We hear from lots of parents each year at Playgroup Victoria . These are some of their reasons for attending playgroup.

"Friendship."
"The playgroup has been going for years and there's a good supply of toys, play equipment, books and a great outdoor area."
"It's giving my child some stimulating experiences in a relaxed, informal setting."
"It opens up the community to you. Before I went to playgroup I had no idea where the best places were to go locally for a good children's doctor or that you could go to the hall down the road for immunisations."
"I want to meet people who

hoeve

I think there is many LEARNING GROUP but NOT PLAYGROUP in the market. I've go to some trial class and the one I hate is the teacher need my 1 yr old BB to pass ball to other BB (she like ball so much that she won't give to other, so as the other BB, so they SHOUT and ANGRY), not allow my BB to touch the flash card......The problem is BB at 1 yr old did not have the ability to share and control herself not to take other's stuff! I surely the teacher has no knowledge of child development!
My BB now go to a playgroup that mainly free play, with some singing time, snack time and story time  

kyy

hoeve
can u tell us where is the playgroup your BB is attending now ?


yes, I also agree and expect that playgourp can allow my bb to have a chance to interact with other kids, they can fight for the toys, they sing songs and dance and listen to some stoies.........

but very disappointed that I have joined some playgroup and tried some free class, they all tried to ask my boy (14-16months) to sit probably and do something that he can't (eg use scissors to cut paper ) so finally I was the one who did all the task

hoeve

Hi kyy,
She is attending letter-land in Tin Hau
letter-land click here
Another one I think is good is gymboree
gymboree click here
I also have been to trial class that ask my girl doing what she can't, really horrible!



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kyy 寫道:
hoeve
can u tell us where is the playgroup your BB is attending now ?


yes, I also agree and expect that playgourp can allow my bb to have a chance to interact with other kids, they can fight for the toys, they sing songs and dance and listen to some stoies.........

but very disappointed that I have joined some playgroup and tried some free class, they all tried to ask my boy (14-16months) to sit probably and do something that he can't (eg use scissors to cut paper ) so finally I was the one who did all the task

Pochaccodog

Kyy,

這便是因為他們完全不了兒童的成長過程, 但請留意, 市場上有很多很多介紹兒童遊戲環境的工具書, 要開一間playgroup的中心其實很容易, 只係用幾多錢裝修、買多一點工具書介紹的玩具便可, 關鍵是playgroup不止是小朋友的工作, 更加是家長的工作, 如果這些學校或中心沒有家長工作的計劃, 這便是一個每星期一堂的遊戲小組, 如果有此工作計劃, 便是一個鞏固家庭關係的建設工程, 誠言, 我身位一位社會福利行業的一員, 有時係BK見到一些分享, 確實感到震驚, 他們對家庭關係的睇法, 對傭工的態度和立場, 確實難以為寶寶擬造一個優良心理健康的成長環境. 當然, 社會上一定有好的服務, 好的課程, 好的家長. 社會上一起改善心理素質, 才是真正的一起成長.

snoopymummy

看到這個討論題目有兩個感受:
1. 慶幸有媽媽和我一樣對playgroup有了反思,也對此有了自己的一套定義,大家都不是一窩蜂的人,能認識你們真好!
2.失望這個題目並沒有很踴躍的回應,我想不是太多人認同和明白吧?!

playgroup已變成了賺錢和催促幼兒成長的工具,香港人為什麼總不能放慢點,常生怕錯過了什麼,連幼兒的成長也要加快,可知發展有序,平凡也是福?

laiki

我嘗試過幫bb搵中文playgroup,但原來搵英文playgroup易好多,真唔知呢個係咩世界

yuengooluk

that's why i form my own playgroup with 7 other moms.  i learn this from a group of moms in the usa.  we simply gather at our homes - pretty casually meanwhile as our babies are too small to interact.  but we still believe our babies (as well as moms) benefit from such playdates.

kyy

Pochaccodog, yuengooluk

yes, most of the playgroup in hk are the tool to "train" bb to do something that they no need to learn at their age   As what yuengooluk said , playgroup's original meaning/purpose is just to gather some families and let their bb to play together. everymummy can contribute some-- bring some toys, say story, sing songs.....

I also want to have some gathering like this, but, in HK, it is really difficult to form such group as most of the mother is not full-time one........ and not many understand the reall meaning of playgoup

88654321

多謝你地提醒playgroup的意義.
試過返playgroup,经驗不大開心,因為做D嘢唔係BB願意做,而身為新手媽媽的,又會好疑惑咁唸,"セ一歲要識呢D嘢咪,我亞B做唔到,係咪有問題?" 最終搞到自己唔開心,所以番playgroup真係要小心選擇.

yuengooluk

kyy

have you tried to invite other moms of your mama club to form your own playgroup?  i'd received very good response from mine.  we're not full-time moms, and meet every 2 weeks.

and i know that some other mama clubs (like 0503) are also interested in the idea, and are trying to form their own.  

u may consider to do so.

But frankly speaking, I also let my baby join “小霹靂”.  From my point of view, I just want my baby to explore, play, see, hear and interact more – not to learn.

kimikowu

Hi

I think the meaning of Playgroup is a group of kids join together though the game  playing / dancing etc.
Let them development their Gross motor and Fine Motor training.

ptsamm

Form your own playgroup.
I highly recommend this.
My tips are find bbs
- at the same age and
- live at the same district
  

yuengooluk

ptsamm

how's your playgroup going?  started already?  how many babies?

yes, i also regret not inviting moms living in the same district in the first place.  now after meeting for a couple of times, there's no way for us to split.  let's see how it goes - going with the flow.  

ptsamm

hi yuengooluk

We've form a group already. Thanks for your idea and information. There're totally 5 of us.
We've got 2 gatherings. During the playdates, I got many valuable sharing from moms and my bb has a very good chance to explore too.

Pochaccodog

Hey ptsamm

Its a good try!!
If you need any help about playgroup, you should PM me.

ptsamm 寫道:
hi yuengooluk

We've form a group already. Thanks for your idea and information. There're totally 5 of us.
We've got 2 gatherings. During the playdates, I got many valuable sharing from moms and my bb has a very good chance to explore too.

Pochaccodog

Laiki:

呢個就係商人知道父母緊張bb的心態, 而父母又將成年人的須要和虛榮強加於bb的世界, 你看BK的父母有幾多人做FLASH CARD, 有幾多人搵ENGLISH DRAMA, 有幾多人買五國語言教材便知, 我真係見過一個四歲的BB英文十分流利, 可是沒有了童年, 而且上到小學, 覺得上堂的知識已經明白了, 完全沒有了學習和尊重同學、它師的態度, 有了知識, 但卻沒有了學習做人的態度.

教育制度唔健康, 估唔到連非正規教育都唔健康, 非牟利機構的社工為了自己的生存空間, 係咁向受眾推廣充權概念, 包括父母和年青人, 教少少野就當佢地係領袖、係導師, TRAIN THE TRAINER的概念係好, 但要要有BACK UP先係完整, 讀書唔成就TRAIN左做游泳教練、歷奇導師、行山領袖, 小蜜蜂、幼童軍、童軍, 十居其九就係呢一班"充滿自信的年青人"執教鞭; 一係就係商人知道家長的錢易搵, 有的自掏荷包出一本親子雜誌, 就話自己係教育家, 家長在場就落力非常, 家長一出門口就真係FREE PLAY啦. 家長們, 識得揼你開心唔得於係真正關心你的BB.

唔好意思, 以上所談得出的, 全部親見親聞, 而唔係聽聞, 你想知邊間非牟利機構點運作, 邊間PLAYGROUP係真正關心小朋友成長, 邊間幼教公司/網站站係搵緊家長著數, 即本PM我, 但我唔會講BK半句壞話, 因為我用緊呢個平台, 網主請放心.

註: 今日有點唔開心

laiki 寫道:
我嘗試過幫bb搵中文playgroup,但原來搵英文playgroup易好多,真唔知呢個係咩世界

jychan

I am a working mother of a 2-year-old baby. I brought my baby to a playgroup since she's around 15 months every weekend. My purposes of doing this are:
1) to let her meet other babies (as she's the only child in my family & have little chance to meet kids) 2) to provide her a safe, clean & kids-friendly environment, other than home, to explore, play & interact with others
3) to learn in fun via dancing, free play, story time, paintng time, etc with other kids & the teacher  & myself as a facilitator in the playgroup
4) to strengthen my relationship with her as in the playgroup I am 100% devoted to accompany her to enjoy the playgroup time

***    It's almost a year now & I even send her to palygroups with my maid in the weekdays (Tue - Fri). This is to let her have more interaction with other kids & also let my maid learn from the teacher the right way to guide a kid (which originally my maid is also ok in this aspect).

Play, exploration & interaction with others are the major ways of learning of kids.
So, play, exploration, interaction = learning
--> if a playgroup can serve these purposes, i think it's a great & true playgroup.

I did join a very commercial playgroup for my kid (Graceful Hands) but my kid & I didn't attend the class after 2 lessons even I paid for 8 lessons in advance. I think it's a waste of time & I really don't bid it's class structure. no interaction between kids & impatient teacher taught only stupid stuff to kids.

Just want to voice out my opinion. I think every parent want the kids to perform well & learn. But the question is learning in a right & fun way that kids really enjoy. Definitely not to put flash cards in front of her to "recognise" every day in such a boring way. What's the points of recognising so much words in such young age? From an economics points of view, flash card "recognition" (definitly not learning I would say) is absolutely have an opportunity cost of other more funful ways of learning for your kids.

Learning can be fun! A good playgroup can be fun but also a good channel for kids to learn. hopefully I found one good playgroup which serves all these purposes for my kid.  my kid loves it very much & learnt a lot from it in great fun.               

isywin

jychan,

May I ask what playgroup u'r kid is attending? I'm also searching it for my almost 26-month-old son.

Thx so much!