怎樣才算資優呢?

charlene

這個新的討論區,似乎未有人入來.

唔敢話我家小孩係資優,但由出世到現在,佢真係帶比我們不小的困擾.

最近佢上兩歲班,問題更加特顯.老師只當佢係固執的小朋友,鬧情緒,唔肯合作.
但我估佢嫌課程死板,規矩多,活動範圍受限制,無自由.
學來學去都係嗰 D.

佢好喜歡睇書,包括我哋睇的雜誌.會指和讀出佢識的字.
我真係怕教得慢. 唔係我哋迫佢,係佢自己不斷 ask for "some more".
佢好有自己的主見,更會指揮人.
我同佢同房瞓,由出世到現在,無一晚瞓得安寧.
小時係喊,一晚喊幾次.
會講說話之後,就係晚晚幾次發開口夢,重係講得"好清楚"嗰隻.

我點樣可以知多D 呢   

Dr.T

Individuals with IQ above 130 is considered to be gifted in HK. You might find more info in the following websites:

香港資優兒童家長會
http://www.gifted.org.hk/
-Self-help group by parents

教育署課程發展處
http://cd.emb.gov.hk/sen/Gifted/
特別資優學生培育支援計劃
http://gifted.hkedcity.net/
-However, as EMB will not conduct IQ test for general population anymore (not even Raven, unless you have some kind of learning/behaviour problem), I always wonder how can we know whether those so-called 特別資優 students are really gifted by internationally recognized standard...

The International Center for the Gifted and Talented (HK)
http://www.gifted.com.hk/
-private organization but with quite good international connections

critic

When you said, 會指和讀出佢識的字. Are they Chinese character or English ABC?

virgokaren

如果一個小孩(小學階段)已經識寫很好的文章，自己會閱讀很多不同種類的書，音樂和畫畫也很有天份。
思考很敏捷，情感很敏悅，語言天份也高。
但考試成績時好時壞，有時考全班第三十名，有時考第三名。甚至第一名。(對有興趣的科目可以做得很好，備受讚賞，不用溫習也可以取得很高分數。)
對數學這科則全無興趣，成績遠遠落後同學。
這小孩算不算資優？

faith

virgokaren,
         我想這個小孩的右腦可能比較發達，創造力比較高吧﹗             

不過我常想，創造力很高是否在一般智力測驗上不是得分的關鍵呢，因為那些要達130才是資優的iq test都係較注重邏輯推理。不過我知道應有創造力的評估，但創造力這回事好像比較抽象吧？？不過聽說右腦型偏好的人比較不是那麼一板一眼，和偏好抽象思考，還有是較敏感和情緒化。
以上純屬個人意見﹗       

Matthewba

資優兒童係咪一定有好多問題問既呢?

小孩子的天空

Hei&Ching 寫道:

尤其是她做錯事,一定諸般抵賴,雄辯滔滔,諉過於人,要她道歉,她更可哭上半小時,一邊哭一邊不停回想想委屈的事.

直頭同我個仔一樣！做錯野，仲好似我地對佢唔住咁．他連對老師ｄ態度也是這樣，頂佢唔順ｄ老師噌到佢死．

Sindy

hei&ching,
你朋友仲有無興趣搵人實習

faith

Matthewba,
       答案係﹕NO﹗
我有一個朋友，她兩個孩子都是資優兒，女兒正讀F.6(智商147)，兒子唸F2(一百三十幾)；但女兒從小則十分乖巧，在學校簡直是模範生，品學兼優，從不搞事。乖得出奇﹗
兒子呢？至少身體極差，固執，好勝，敏感。成績也很標青，但性格行為卻令母親擔憂和辛苦，和姐姐完全兩類人。
在學校雖然成績好，但卻令老師頭痛。現在上中學了，母親仍要為孩子的問題見家長，見校長.......還想著要轉校(因老師竟當拿著報紙當面說他兒子有報紙所說精神問題的徵狀)

但仔細問問，女兒數學非常好，做人很冷靜、理性，EQ很高。
但音樂、記性、閱讀就不及弟弟好，弟弟雖然沒姐數學好，EQ也差很遠，但說及人情味、觀察人的能力則比姐姐好，做事較有彈性不像姐般理性和一板一眼。和兩人相處，弟弟很敏感，較多愁善感，情緒化，但卻較姐善解人意，較富創造力，明顯看來是較姐"聰明"的，想得較多。但在IQ分數上卻不及姐。我想這就是一般IQTEST只著重邏輯推理的問題吧﹗所以傳統定義聰明其實是指那一方面呢？

以上純屬個人看法，如有不是，敬請原諒

      

麟媽媽

我朋友是gifted(音樂)，而家已二十幾歲，從小乖巧聽明，讀書唔使用太多時間溫習但成績十分之好。她大學讀到上master都是讀音樂的，她們有兩姊妹，兩人都是讀音樂，但姊姊小時邊哭邊彈，但妹妹總是自動自覺練琴。聽她媽媽說，她彈一、兩次的歌已記得唔使再睇譜，電視播的歌聽過已可彈出來，當時她只是幾歲，好犀利呢！她是資優，但唔係一個難攪的細路。

Matthewba 寫道:
資優兒童係咪一定有好多問題問既呢?

Sindy

hei&ching,

哦.........唔緊要,其實我有好奇心

tingyanmom

我2 個仔在讀幼稚園時校方也有叫我去評估,但情況就截然不同,大仔因太出色(尤其是有關動物的知識說得比老師更詳細),校長要他去評估,但因要比錢,我沒有做,但他由幼稚園至今年年考第一,得獎無數,乖巧聽話,一點也不麻煩,細仔又是在幼稚園時"表現出色"(和老師鬥咀和坐不定)被轉介去看專科,後去評估(今次不用比錢)結果IQ130,EQ不合格,說我可以讓他讀有關學校(但要學費的),或用方法提升他的EQ,因EQ低會影響他的IQ(評估的人員是這樣說的),現在大仔一樣乖巧,細仔的咀巴天下無敵,是眾人的開心果(說話生動有趣),但我就給他氣死,因要他做野,一定要和他"講數"一小時以上才叫得動他,你打他,打到開花,也不流一滴淚,2 個都是我一手一腳湊的,時間我比較在細仔方面多些,雖然我已看了不少有關書籍,上了不知 少講座,但還是不能令細仔發揮得很好,所以香港在資優兒童方面的支持不太夠,像我們比較清苦的家庭,就算有資優兒童又怎樣?根本沒能力去栽培他.

twinstar

Hi

My younger daughter just 2 yrs old, she read the cards everyday.  One day, I turn over the cards (without picture) and ask her, she can read over 100 words, does she be a 資優兒童 ?  I just want to know.  But she is very shy.

Twinstar

faith

現今的小朋友愈來愈聰明，很多老師都這樣說。
是不是現在的父母很多都比上一代接受多些的教育，較憧得教育孩子，又現在的奶粉，很多人說也是導因。當然遺傳因素也不可抹煞
我想不久將來，130已是屬於平均智商，100變成undernormal，150才算是資優了。
所以我開始覺得我的孩子能力其實是很普遍罷了﹗         

Sindy

Twinstar,
我仔廿二個月,佢都認到約一百個字,我都好有好奇睇

東京mewmew

faith 寫道:
現今的小朋友愈來愈聰明，很多老師都這樣說。
是不是現在的父母很多都比上一代接受多些的教育，較憧得教育孩子，又現在的奶粉，很多人說也是導因。當然遺傳因素也不可抹煞
我想不久將來，130已是屬於平均智商，100變成undernormal，150才算是資優了。
所以我開始覺得我的孩子能力其實是很普遍罷了﹗         

Agree

SLI

Re: 怎樣才算資優呢?

According to Dr. Glenn Doman and Dr. Makato Shichida ( their belief , theory & research findings, and experience ) , every child should be a genius (資優) . It depends on how you bring out and maximize
their potential ( a nuture approach to develop gifted children ) .

The same early child development approach adopted by Carl Weiss ( in  early 1800s) had trained his son (who was observed to be quite retarded at early months) to get  his PhD at the age of just 15 !

The early acquisition of vocabulary reading and memory skills as compared to children of same age , should not be confused as gifted. It is this skill to facilitate the acquisition of knowledge and thus transform it into intelligence ! Every normal child should be able to do so under proper training ( or education). This  is a means to the end ( intelligence).

I've been using Doman's program of early child development in physical and cognitive aspects on my son since he was 3 months old.  Now he is 18 months, he can walk and run, fast and steady. He loves to read all kinds of printed media, can speak more than 100 vocab. and many phrases/ sentences in Cantonese , about 20 words in English and a few words in Mandarin. Basically he is a happy, smart  and charming baby . I'm not saying all these to show off or benchmark myself , but accrediting to the early development program !

According to Harvard University's Howard Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory ( he claimed 8 intelligences up to now) , everyone of us should bear all these intelligences but of various extents . The conventional IQ test check only 2 intelligences ( namely Logic & Maths and Language ) but miss to reflect  the rest ( Interpersonal , Intrapersonal , Music, Kinesthetic , Spatial and Nature Knowledge ) , so a simple high IQ score would be misleading and not comprehensive . It's just a myth to worship this numeric figure !  My psychologist friend told me that it's not accurate to IQ test a child under 5 or 6 as there are many variables that may affect the outcoming score. I also heard about a MIQ test just came out 2 years ago in US and believed it will come to Asia soon.

By the way, the IQ reference standard would be reviewed and adjusted from time to time to reflect the comparative distribution. If the majority of children at a certain age are scoring 130 at the present standard , then this 130 points would then be set as 100 as reference point for that particular age.

To sum up my points, all our children have potentials of different extents to be developed in various aspects, it's our job as parents to locate these potentials as early as possible and develop them at their fullest with all our available resources. At such time, all our children should be named "gifted (資優) " because they are really all born " gifted (資優)".

東京mewmew 寫道:
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faith 寫道:
現今的小朋友愈來愈聰明，很多老師都這樣說。
是不是現在的父母很多都比上一代接受多些的教育，較憧得教育孩子，又現在的奶粉，很多人說也是導因。當然遺傳因素也不可抹煞
我想不久將來，130已是屬於平均智商，100變成undernormal，150才算是資優了。
所以我開始覺得我的孩子能力其實是很普遍罷了﹗         

Agree[/quote] :exclaim:  :exclaim: