請問那間國際學校學生考IBDP中文，程度與LS較接近?

Jane1983

Anyone knows?

ANChan59

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What do you mean exactly?

arielle.w

Chinese A Language and Literature should be more like local school Chinese level. Chinese A Literature may actually be a little bit more difficult than average local school Chinese level, unless the student has a very strong foundation and is good at Chinese (especially writing).

ANChan59

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IBDP also has syllabus B, which is much lower than LS's Chinese.
For Literature, I am not sure, but I would say like Chi Literature. As my son takes L&LS only, its a bit harder than local syllabus as the scope is wider and not the same as local.

Chole

I heard there's a change in IB Chinese.  Anybody has ideas?

Jane1983

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請問邊間IS比較多學生可以考syllabus A？

ANChan59

Chole 發表於 12-5-29 12:33
I heard there's a change in IB Chinese.  Anybody has ideas?

Same as English, Syllabus A with two streams - Literature, Literature and Language Studies and then HL and SL. No more A1 and A2.
Syllabus B, HL and SL.

arielle.w

yes, the change is a general one for all IB language A course. So for Chinese, now they got Chinese Literature and Chinese Language & Literature to replace Chinese A1 and A2.

I think if more students at CIS, CDNIS or some more "local" IS take Chinese A.

And yes, Chinese B would be way too easy comparing to LS level.

P.S. I'm currently taking IB English Literature HL and self-taught Chinese Literature SL.

Chole

ANChan59/arielle.w,

Thanks.  I need to talk to the school to see what they will offer for Chinese.

slamai

There is a distinction between 可以考Language A and choosing Language A.  Some students 可以考Language A but choose Language B because (i) there is no need to choose Language A for their university applications, (ii) they don't care to get a bilingual diploma and (iii) they anticipate to get a higher score in Language B than in Language A which will enhance their chance in university admission.  Some other students choose Chinese Language A because choosing English Language A will be more disastrous ...

Jane1983 發表於 12-5-29 17:46
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請問邊間IS比較多學生可以考syllabus A？

ANChan59

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你的意見合情合理。
但是你最後一段有些不明白，中文及英文選擇A或B是獨立考慮，無須因為英文選B，而中文要選A。我是否理解錯。

我都好留意不同學校的中英文AB的比率，及Bilinguial Diploma的%，有些學校平均分唔錯，但學生選修科目的組合亦有頗大差距。

arielle.w

If I'm not mistaken, in the IB DP programme, you need to have at least one Language A. So if your child only speaks 2 languages, s/he has to choose one as a Language A, and for the other, s/he has the choice of taking it as Language A or B.

slamai

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You got it! The combination of language choices is either AA or AB but not BB.  The first language of the student is supposed to be chosen as Language A.

cchristieee

at least one language A, either Lit or Lang. Lit.
for Chinese A Lang. Lit., students are going to learn literature appreciation skills in class anyways, which is the same set of skills as in Chinese A Lit. But in addition, Lang. Lit. students need to handle skills for two more areas like culture, media, etc.
A Lit. requirements are indeed higher than A Lang. Lit. in terms of literature appreciation. Yet, it should not be a big problem for most local school students with fine Chinese foundation.
Personally think that A Lit. is a better choice when compared with A Lang. Lit.

Chinese B is really quite intermediate in which usually those who have really poor Chinese foundation or are not local students take. If you are only caring about getting a firm grade 7 for Chinese, then take it. If you want to learn something out of the Chinese course, given that you have the ability, do try a Chinese A course.

nintendo

部份學校對 language a 和 b 的選擇，都執得很緊
根據 ibo 的 policy，老實說，本地成長的孩子，如果自小學就學中文，是必須要讀 language a 的，不是說可以為一個 7 分，將自己降格讀 language b (要降，不如降為 ab initio，連 preparation 都唔洗)
另一方面，例如如果學生的確早已學過 modern language  如 french 或 spanish，亦不能隨自己選擇讀 ab initio
即使 esf 也有很多學生會讀 chinese a.   當然，個別學校/學生有自己的做法，這我不便批評

nintendo

" 請問那間國際學校學生考IBDP中文，程度與LS較接近? "

答番樓主問題
如果係 IBDP 課程的 CHINESE A ，應該比 LS 中文深少少，因為即使係 LANG & LIT ，讀的文學都讀得深入很多
CHINESE B 就容易得多，我個人覺得可能最多只有初中水平

我想說的，是當家長選校時，不要單看學校的中文夠唔夠深
國際學校學生，有好多可以讀得上 CHINESE A，亦有好多早就放棄學中文，轉讀其實語文
要中文好，唔係話學校有中文堂就得，家長都要諗下，自己有冇能力和決心幫小朋友學好中文

slamai

While my previous post might have oversimplified the case, I'd like add some comments below:

nintendo 發表於 12-6-4 09:16
部份學校對 language a 和 b 的選擇，都執得很緊 [Yes, mostly because of the language teachers]
根據 ibo 的 policy，老實說，本地成長的孩子，如果自小學就學中文，是必須要讀 language a 的，不是說可以為一個 7 分，將自己降格讀 language b (要降，不如降為 ab initio，連 preparation 都唔洗) [Yes and No.  IBO has such a policy but not as strict as described.  Take the example of ESF schools, they teach Chinese right from primary one but still many students are taking Chinese Language B for their IB DP.  In fact, ESF teaches Chinese at different levels to suit individual students of various (language) backgrounds.]
另一方面，例如如果學生的確早已學過 modern language  如 french 或 spanish，亦不能隨自己選擇讀 ab initio
即使 esf 也有很多學生會讀 chinese a.   當然，個別學校/學生有自己的做法，這我不便批評

Jane1983

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Nintendo:

我本來想幫個小朋友報ESF的KJS，打去了解吓，個Admission Offer告訴我佢地d中文好基本。去RC睇過，佢小、中學一條龍，中文學習較有連貫性，但聽朋友講話學術好似吳夠其他ESF學校好。

喜歡國際學校的理念，我們家庭亦幫到小朋友中文，但都希望學校比較重視。
但有吳想讀弘立（萬三元一個月，我有兩個，真係太貴），你有什麼建議？謝謝

bloglo110

我都覚得ISF太貴，KCIS呢？

nintendo

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我先前的 MESSAGE 可能講得太精簡。
IBO 的 POLICY 很明顯：不能報讀不合自己水平的 LANGUAGE CLASS。
明明中文水平高，就要讀 CHINESE A，不應該讀 CHINESE B。
國際學校學生很多係讀 CHINESE B 係因為佢地一向當 CHINESE 係 SECOND LANGUAGE。ESF 很多學生真係講都未識講，佢地讀得上 CHINESE B，其實算叻。

我想講的，係不可以為了有高 D 分，而唔讀 CHINESE A ，改讀 CHINESE B。
我只係唔想有人誤會，以為可以將自己中文水平降落去 CHINESE B，可以有高 D 分。
一個負責任的 IB 老師，一定唔會批准學生咁做。
我知有國際學校曾經容許一 D 本地學校插班的學生，選 ENGLISH A + CHINESE B，結果成績有個怪現象，就係 ENGLISH A 只有 5 但 CHINESE B 有 7。
其實大學睇總分之餘，亦會睇學生選邊 D 科，比你走精面，讀 CHINESE B 拎多兩分，都唔代表大學會收你。
教仔女誠實選科，都係教育，影響深遠。
純個人意見。