PARENT STATEMENT OF INTENT

hkmoron

To apply for ESF, now you have to write an essay!!


It is an expectation that all members of the ESF community are committed to the education we offer. Please tell us briefly:
a) why you want the applicant to attend an ESF school; and,
b) as parents/guardians, how you would be able to become actively involved in the school community (e.g. Parent Teacher Association, sharing career expertise and guidance, school fair, class volunteer, etc.) *(7.1)

FattyDaddy

hkmoron 發表於 13-9-1 01:32
To apply for ESF, now you have to write an essay!!

Haha, that is just the first step, both parents will then need to be interviewed. Also, ESF will now verify passports to ensure at least 70% of their students possess foreign citizenship. These are some of the changes introduced this year, as a result of their subvention being ceased.

Good news for some, bad news for others.

hkmoron

70%? Never heard of it. Any information in their website?

FattyDaddy

hkmoron 發表於 13-9-1 02:18
70%? Never heard of it. Any information in their website?

Quoted from their webpage ...

"In line with the Education Bureau requirements, at least 70% of the total students enrolled will qualify as ‘non-local’, defined as being holders of an overseas passport."

http://www.esf.edu.hk/policy2013#1.%20Preface

tcbobo

ESF Interview 時一向要check passport, 好似唔係而家先開始check.  Interview 時亦一向有副校長和家長見面, 講下小孩的事, 睇下你是否當係in埋家長。

Mom2One

Actually the parent interaction will be much more formalized. Before, the parent(s) may speak informally with the school staff and teachers in a common waiting area while waiting for their child being interviewed in another room. Starting this year, the interview is actually one-on-one in an interview room and specific questions will be posed to the parents.

nintendo

以我仔女䜖ESF多年的觀察，根本各間國際學校 （ including non EFS) 學生大部份部係「外藉」,我估而家各國際學校一早就 70% 非本地生。其實好多人有外國護照，就算是華裔面孔都可能是英藉加藉美藉，而同時鬼仔日本仔而可能因為是香港出生可以報稱為本地人。

事實，百份百本地人 （沒外國護照，沒外聯繫的本地華裔）很少會選擇國際學校，始終長遠來說，用 non jupas 入本地大學情形不明朗，沒外藉去外國讀大學有好多限制，例如部份國家不容許外地生讀醫科法律，就算如英國是容許非當地人讀醫科法律，要找實習機會近乎零。

我覺得這個甚麼 70% 也只是一個表面功夫，對是否真的對將來申請情形會有多少影響，是未知之數。我就認為冇乜大影響。

nintendo

原帖由 hkmoron 於 13-09-01 發表
To apply for ESF, now you have to write an essay!!

沒大不了，其實其他學校一早就有這要求。說是寫 essay 是誇張了，只是想家長說說自己對ESF的看法。
以往的 admission process 太求其，收了很多不能融入 ESF 的家庭。

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 13-9-1 12:52
事實，百份百本地人 （沒外國護照，沒外聯繫的本地華裔）很少會選擇國際學校 ...

This may have been true years ago, but the way in which the government has been messing around with local education has caused many Hongkongers to loose faith, and more and more 100% local families are looking towards international schools as an escape.

chickchick

其實, parent statement 只係普通的問題, 寫得好與唔好, 對入學機會沒有大影響. 要見家長, esf並無詳細提及是甚麼形式. 現階段大家亦無從得知是不是 "both parents", 是不是 "one-on-one", 是不是 "interview room"....etc.... 還是等11月各小學發信通知interview, 才會得到多些資訊. 不要猜測太多吧.

如何改變, 也是小學生的面試. 相信小朋友的表現才是最重要. 再說, 見領事, 見移民官, 也是整個family一起見的吧! 現在又不是見工.....

passport年年都check, 這不是新事. 以前是小朋友自己入interview room (group interview), 我相信這亦不會改變. 學校亦會考慮我們遞交的kinder 成績表的. 作為家長, 在新制或舊制, 角色應該無大分別. 只是比多了些報名費和寫多幾行字,現場講多幾句話罷.

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-9-1 13:19
This may have been true years ago, but the way in which the government has been messing around with  local education has caused many Hongkongers to loose faith, and more and more 100% local families are looking towards international schools as an escape.

其實本地教育出問題，在多年前母語教育就看到，到近兩年的 dse，就更令人憂心。
但有多少家庭，可以真的一下子會由傾向選擇本地教育，轉去選擇國際學校？
國際學校學費不便宜，不是一句 "loose faith" 就可以轉校，家長一定要計好數。
就算銀根不決，本地人讀國際學校也有點隱憂，以將來謀生出路來說，如果將來打算本地就業，就要顧住中文水平。除非是讀有較強中文課程的國際學校如 ycis，isf，singapore is 等，應該中文可以 "保得住，如果選 esf 或其他，就真的要考慮孩子將來在香港工作的問題。
因此，很多對本地教育失望的家庭，較傾向選擇留在傳統小學，到中學甚至高中才轉國際學校，甚至直接出國，這樣他們覺得起碼有點中文底子。
把口話 escape，好像很容易，但也要想想往後的路向，不是這樣簡單。

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 13-9-1 14:10
本地人讀國際學校也有點隱憂，以將來謀生出路來說，如果將來打算本地就業，就要顧住中文水平 ...

I agree there are difficulties. In this forum, we often see people asking whether they should opt for international schools over local schools, and my answer to that has always been ... if the child will probably be spending most if not all his/her life in the greater China area, international schools may not be the right choice.

However, it is also undeniable that international schools have seen a surge in the number of applicants in recent years, meaning that people have weighed up all the consequences and still opted for international schools despite the drawbacks.

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-9-1 15:14
However, it is also undeniable that international schools have seen a surge in the number of applicants in recent years, meaning that people have weighted up all the consequences and still opted for international schools despite the drawbacks.

你說的多了學生，其實好多是回流香港的外國移民，這不是今天的事，是十年前就慢慢每年增多；亦有些是有外國 connection (工作，生意，護照等) 的大陸和台灣人。
我在國際學校社群 (包括 esf 和 non esf )  多年來認識到的，真的不多是百份百 "本地"   香港人。
我沒有甚麼實際的數據，全憑在認識其他家長後得知他們的背景。
算了，不再討論，反正我真的沒實際數字，不想糾纏。

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 13-9-1 15:21
我沒有甚麼實際的數據，全憑在認識其他家長後得知他們的背景。 ...

We both agree that international schools is perhaps not the right choice for families who plan to stay put in this part of the world, the rest are just differences in perception, lets leave it at that.{:1_1:}

紅紅

其實呢幾條問題都好普通，好多學校（不止是IS）都有問。

至於純本地冇外地護照的學生又真的不會多，老實講，IS收費不低，相信很多收入較高的家庭很多都有海外居留，而ESF純本地的學生大多是公務員子女？因為好似有資助（我都是聽返來，有錯請指正）？

shadeslayer

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-01 發表
We both agree that international schools is perhaps not the right choice for families who plan to st ...

What kind of good education is not suitable for families planning to stay out in HK/China?

FattyDaddy

shadeslayer 發表於 13-9-1 17:51
What kind of good education is not suitable for families planning to stay out in HK/China?

I don't know, what kind of good education is not suitable for anyone? Not sure I understood your question.

If you're asking why an international school education may not be suitable for local families planning to stay put in Hongkong, I believe our friend nintendo had already elaborated on that.

pppwong

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-01 發表
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 13-9-1 13:31 編輯

Exactly

pppwong

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-09-01 發表
Quoted from their webpage ...

"In line with the Education Bureau requirements, at least 70% of the  ...

70% non local...bad news for me!!

fanfanbb

nintendo 發表於 13-9-1 12:52
以我仔女䜖ESF多年的觀察，根本各間國際學校 （ including non EFS) 學生大部份部係「外藉」,我估而家各國 ...

Other than the future prospect, the training means in international school also counts.  Happened to discuss with my hubby this afternoon regarding IB, we buy IS instead of the traditional "duck feed".  

Declare, my boy is holding a foreign passport