啟思小學 VS 維小(VSA)

mamaishere

雖然不算真正的國際學校，但兩間都係香港少數既IB through-train school，想請教下用家就課程，師資，IBDP成績呢幾方面有何評價＆分別，及在選IB School時有乜野要特別注意？小朋友讀緊維幼（九龍）, 希望以後行IB , 知道入維小有優勢但比率很低，想諗定有無其他選擇！（地區不用考慮，可搬屋遷就）謝謝指教！

muimuimao

啟小是中文小學，VSA是英文，這是主要分別。但啟中近年的IB成績好過VSA。不過啟小上啟中並非直升(收幾多成眾說紛紜，有說預留八成學額予啟小，但也有家長說只得三成入番啟中，可能因為啟中同啟小地理上遠，而且九龍塘校網亦好，所以好多人唔揀升啟中)。

而且，啟中由中一至中三是IB，但到中四全人類都要讀返一年「中學文憑課程」(HKDSE)，中五就一半讀IB，一半讀HKDSE，學校話事。所以啟幼、啟小、啟中絕非through-trian school，全部都要再面試，銜接問題要自己諗清楚。

我有諗過啟小，所以好詳細咁research過，VSA我就不太清楚。不過據身邊讀過啟幼、啟小的家長，都對學校讚不絕口，絕對是好學校，也會讀得很開心。

mamaishere

非常詳細, 好多謝你! 之前一路都唔知道啟思要中四讀一年DSE, 到頭來都有可能唔係IBDP畢業, 咁真係有D risky喎! 因為我就係唔想小朋友考DSE先俾咁貴學費讀IB school, 如果最後都係DSE咁都唔知為乜...

其實我唔係好明啟小畢業生點解可以出返去讀傳統中學, 程度接到嗎? 仲有, 想請問啟小係咪同維小一樣PYP到Grade 5? 如是, 如何考其他中學? 到MYP時, 會同其他IB school一樣會有annual trip或許community service呢類IB課程嗎?

muimuimao

我只知道啟小係將本地課程融入IB框架裏面，所以據說接傳統中學問題不大，係讀PYP同MYP，但到MYP是否有annual trip等等詳情我就唔知。但據知啟小都要考TSA，所以係可以參加政府的升中派位，這點應與VSA不同。

mamaishere

好難想像PYP但又要考TSA係點運作.. 希望有多些用家分享! 都想知道啟小有幾多%B1生, 謝分享!

muimuimao

我都唔知，這也是我對啟小幼有保留的地方。

shadeslayer

作為家長，孩子考DSE定IB也要聽天由命，好似唔係幾妥。

mamaishere

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 14-01-13 發表
作為家長，孩子考DSE定IB也要聽天由命，好似唔係幾妥。

Exactly!! Why would parents need to take this 50/50 risk after investing 9 years of high tuition? I don't get it...

muimuimao

這點的確很難讓家長安心，不過話又說回來，啟思小學真是一間很好的學校，如果有信心自己小朋友係個upper 50%，一路升到上去，又讀到IB，咁可能真係兼有IS及本地教育之長，即是既愉快學習，又中英文俱佳。呢間學校好獨特，如果佢係100%直升，我相信會搶手好多。

HKTHK

回覆 shadeslayer 的帖子

But isn't that the same as DBS or SPCC?  Students have to qualify to take the IB and it is not like those schools are that much cheaper.
The original poster asked the exact same question here:  http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2740951&extra=page%3D1

What I really don't understand is how can a school that prepares some its students for IB and the others for DSE only have 56% bilingual diploma?  Does this mean some of the students are not taking Chinese A or English A?  I guess either would be a bit shocking.

mamaishere

DBS同SPCC學生未必一心為咗讀IB而入讀的，俾個位你讀邊樣都Lur飯應啦。成個小學階段都係校本課程，進可攻退可守，萬一入唔到IB都唔會差得去邊，因大部份人都預咗考DSE。但你揀得啟思，由PYP讀起，成個IB模式度過3-15歲，之後突然話你讀返傳統啦。咁你個人生閲歷就係「啟思畢業生但入唔到IB」，而DBS或SPCC入唔到IB嘅就仍然都係「男拔生」＆「St Paul仔」履歷繼續令人眼前一亮。可能我誇張咗去演繹，但只係我個人諗返想盡量解釋一下。如有得罪，真是無心的！

HKTHK

回覆 mamaishere 的帖子

You are thinking about it the wrong way.  IB PYP and MYP are just frameworks, not curriculums.  If the school is preparing students for both IB DP and DSE, they can teach what they want to get their students ready and it is the school's job to do that.

mamaishere

原帖由 HKTHK 於 14-01-13 發表
回覆 mamaishere 的帖子

You are thinking about it the wrong way.  IB PYP and MYP are just frameworks ...

DBS同SPCC都係用IB framework去教小學初中嗎？用IB framework教學模式，得著和受用的，除了最後嘅成績外還有學習態度、社區認識、國際視野等等.. 我並不是指課程，我重視嘅係過程。

HKTHK

回覆 shadeslayer 的帖子

I thought about it more.  Even with English B and Chinese A, these students would still get Bilingual Diploma since their other subjects are most likely in English.  This could only mean that 56% of them are taking Chinese A!

hkparent

原帖由 HKTHK 於 14-01-14 發表
回覆 shadeslayer 的帖子

I thought about it more.  Even with English B and Chinese A, these students ...

Or 56% Eng A and Chi A?

kingkongdaddy

回覆 hkparent 的帖子

Can I ask what does it mean by Eng A or Eng B.
A=Higher level
B=Standard level
Or
A= 1st lang
B= 2nd lang ?

Thank you!

mamaishere

A is higher level with literature analyst, B is standard level

kingkongdaddy

As I know in order to be awarded double language diploma, one must take English (1st lang) and Chin (1st lang) no matter they are in high level or standard level. Is that true?

In other words, if they take Eng (2nd lang) or Chin (2nd lang) even though they are in high level, it is not considered a double language, right?

poonseelai

kingkongdaddy 發表於 14-1-21 01:11
As I know in order to be awarded double language diploma, one must take English (1st lang) and Chin  ...

One must take a first and a second language.

kingkongdaddy

回覆 poonseelai 的帖子

i know one must take 2 languages in IB, what I mean is that if the two languages are chosen to be 1st lang ( not one 1st one 2nd) in the exam, then double lang diploma will be awarded. Can anyone clarify that?