share what 1-1 st training do for your BB?

iam

每次ST做完training後，都會講番佢做訓練的目標然後比功課你，你唔明，就可以直接問番佢。每個小朋友的需要是不一樣的。而且越細的小朋友，做的項目也不會太多，所以我都想清楚個ST針對你的小朋友的需要而定了什麼教學目標。

你問完佢後，再share吧，我心裡雖然估到些，但都想知道個ST做訓練的目標。

P.S. 如果佢答你佢做口肌，你可以問下佢跟那一套？SRJ? BECKMAN?

原帖由 ikebukuro 於 09-12-7 23:15 發表
My son is 25months, not yet speak, he is attending 1-1 st training. The st training for 45mins, st play with him 45mins, just do "the shape of the mouth" and let my son follow and try to pronounce the ...

[ 本帖最後由 iam 於 09-12-8 14:10 編輯 ]

iam

Your ST has already told u what she wanted to do.  Training eye contact, making sounds and turn his hand when asking... these all make increasing your kids' will of communication.溝通意慾.

What the ST asked you to do at home is the homework la (home-training)

Your ST probably did an assessment for you, right?  She should have told you what your kids are behind her age, so she would do this and this in the class training.  Right?

Is this the ST you complained?  (yes ar, you have not yet pm me that st centre)

If you know your ST's background, says, he/she possess solid experience in teaching pre-school kids with developmental delay, then you could feel free to trust her knowledge and curriculum designed for you kid.  Though her skills cannot be well-judged until you attend her class for at least a few months.

As your kid is 25 months old with just a few single words (right?), his pre-language skills should be trained well in order to develop his verbal skills.  What your ST does is to train-up his pre-language skills and concept.  As I said before, cognitive (concepts, your ST mentioned), is very important for the development of speech.  So your ST is now focus on communication and concept.

原帖由 ikebukuro 於 09-12-8 14:40 發表
The st never say any 教學目標 wor!!!! the st only try to tell me to train his eye contact (put the things at oureyes to let BB look at your face), & the sound "bei" & need to turn his hand when asking ...

Capricorn2521

dear iam, can you advise what is the next step if the will of communication/congnitive skills has been trained (for ikebukuro's case) ? thanks.

原帖由 iam 於 09-12-9 12:59 發表
Your ST has already told u what she wanted to do.  Training eye contact, making sounds and turn his hand when asking... these all make increasing your kids' will of communication.溝通意慾.

What the S ...

iam

我想問下：

１．你現在做training的ST，是否已做了一個評估？還是你把你不喜歡的那個ST的評估result告訴她／他？
２．如是後者，這是否一個標準化評估？（你起碼要講得出評估的名稱及得到的分數）

為什麼我這樣問呢？

１．因為如果ST無做過任何評估，是很難給予訓練目標的。
２．If你不喜歡的ST做的是一個標準化評估，你起碼都有點「渣那」講得番比呢個新ST聽，叫做給新ST一個reference.
３．如果你已告訴新ST你在那個ST做的是標準化評估，新ST便不會做，否則會有memory effect。
４．如果你在新舊st都做了個相同的標準化評估，怕新做的那一個test是不準確的。

為什麼我猜得中那間centre？我沒有聽過comment，不過憑呢個centre的web，已猜到他們的專長不是做幼兒。

原帖由 ikebukuro 於 09-12-10 01:00 發表
Hi iam,
this st is not the one I like to complain, this is another one!! I believed this st should have good experience in teaching  small kid. As I know nothing about 3T, I just want to share whether ...

iam

you have kid similar to ikebukuro's?  Just for interest.

Training communication will and cognitive is always important.  I just guess, her ST would...

1. Build up kid's pre-language skills, e.g. playing skills, eye contact
2. 口肌，if needed
3. training for 聽指令
4. 物件分類...
5. For speech, 發聲first, then more single words, such as common used verbs, object names.
6. more single words, then 雙字詞，then verb + objects, then subject + verb+object
7. Lengthening sentences．．．

There are many STs here in this forum ar.  They may have more advices.

My advice is... don't be too hurry.  Kids are accumulating concepts and words in order to speak the first word.  Don't anticipate the kids can speak from no words to as fluent as age appropriate in just a few months.  

原帖由 Capricorn2521 於 09-12-9 16:59 發表
dear iam, can you advise what is the next step if the will of communication/congnitive skills has been trained (for ikebukuro's case) ? thanks.

Capricorn2521

yes. similar case. thanks for your reply. :)

原帖由 iam 於 09-12-10 12:40 發表
you have kid similar to ikebukuro's?  Just for interest.

Training communication will and cognitive is always important.  I just guess, her ST would...

1. Build up kid's pre-language skills, e.g. pla ...

iam

我估佢都係想問下口肌發展，佢有無同你個你吹下波波呀、哨子呀咁？

老實說，剛從香港大學畢業的ST，都要出去學才識口肌的專門訓練，你真係直接問下你個ST, 你個仔的口肌得唔得呀，佢識唔識口肌，if so, 哪一套呀，SRJ, Beckman?等等。ST做口肌，都要用手指探下個口腔，才能feel到，當然唔駛堂堂都探啦。

我都好想知下點解你個新ST話舊ST個assessment 係useless.

原帖由 ikebukuro 於 09-12-11 16:24 發表
The existing st did both, I passed the previous report to her, but she said "useless" and then did the new assessment. (actually for both I don't know the name/kind of assessment)
I may try few more l ...

iam

個舊ST無同你做一個標準化評估囉, 因為做了的話一定有個分數的, 說出表達及理解的歲數。

如果OT做一個SI評估, 佢會同小朋友玩下啦, 轉下啦, 仲有一些動作(EXACTLY做咩真係OT先識), 家長就要填一份好長的問卷(要填約四十五分鐘), 那份問卷係由版權的, 不能拿走, 一定要即場填。OT就會計分, 同評估小朋友的表現, 來告訴你小朋友有無過敏／低敏，或本體感、前庭感等失調情況囉。

如果小朋友有過份敏感、或過份刺激的行為，例如極度害怕被人觸摸呀，唔肯行沙灘呀，成日跑來跑去呀，轉來轉去呀，又或成日唔肯郁呀，呢Ｄ都有可能要做si

不過，都係個句，比OT(I)看看囉。

原帖由 ikebukuro 於 09-12-13 22:45 發表
The report is useless because: speech, "knowledge", social... only write down delay, but no mention how many months delay. That's why useless (I've the same feeling too), and this is also one of the r ...

[ 本帖最後由 iam 於 09-12-14 09:47 編輯 ]

lokmanmama

hi,

我又黎呢度分享下啦!

我個小朋友又係未有語言能力. 我用緊個st同佢做咗評估,不過,我又唔覺得係好咩震撼既結論,因為,我自己都expect佢會點講..

佢亦係話,而家係要build up 一啲pre-language 既語言技巧. 佢亦係玩一d 野, 主要係practice佢地既認知,同eye contact. 因為, 佢話, 佢地係冇溝通既意慾/唔識 , 只係肯望眼前有興趣既物件,對人(面前俾物件既人)係冇興趣,所以亦唔會有模仿前面人既說話,咁冇得模仿說話,自然亦唔識得去用說話去溝通.

所以, 我地係要利用玩具,去轉移佢地既視線,由同佢玩,從玩具轉到"人"身上, first step 係trian佢地有呢個概念, 然後,要加一d 簡單既"你"; "我"concept , 同埋"要""俾"既 溝通意念. 呢d應該就係pre-language skill.

我覺得我個st未必有對呢類小朋友既實際經驗(我估佢係對比較大小小既),不過,佢講既theroy,我就明白同埋認同. 個skill就係要慢慢掌握.

其實,我覺得, 個st當然要受過正統既訓練,而個skill就係經驗, 同人夾人緣lor

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