有冇準備遲d番外國定居嘅家長?小朋友會讀IS定local?

pc430

我同c6會係阿仔初中近返澳州長住,阿字係超12月尾超細b,已有沙田一線津校自行offer,另外ESF SJS應該都會有offer,大家覺得點揀?
之前我覺得讀local可以學好中文之後去澳州都已有足夠中文程度第日做野會好有用,但係又怕之後成日都會做功課測驗考試冇哂學習興趣,
讀IS係會舒服好多但係之後怕阿仔會未嘗試過辛苦唔夠competitive

請大家俾d意見,thanks

shadeslayer

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-05 發表
我同c6會係阿仔初中近返澳州長住,阿字係超12月尾超細b,已有沙田一線津校自行offer,另外ESF SJS應該都會有of ...

讀IS係會舒服好多但係之後怕阿仔會未嘗試過辛苦唔夠competitive

Xxxxx

你即係話英國，美國，德國，澳洲的教育唔夠 competitive?

pc430

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我講嘅係個人嘅生活經驗如果一直係舒服relax開,承受之後嘅壓力heavy workload嘅能力會比受開長期訓練嘅人低所以出外留學嘅香港學生通常都覺得外國讀書舒服d

shadeslayer

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我講嘅係個人嘅生活經驗如果一直係舒服relax開,承受之後嘅壓力heavy workload嘅 ...

英國，美國，德國，澳洲的教育也比香港 relax舒服，你擔心英國，美國，德國，澳洲人的 under heavy workload 能力弱？

上海學生花遠多於香港的時間做功課，他們更能乘擔壓力？

pc430

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you're saying the truth, and that's what I observed and experienced when I work with people from western and mainland people.
We cannot deny that mainland people graduated from famous china universities are having very good working attitude and very competitive. They can work so hard to achieve what they are aiming for, that's why they can get an offer and graduated from the university in mainland.

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btw, I'm asking for comments and advice here. not asking for more questions.

licpd

It seems you already know the pros and cons of IS and LS.   I would focus more on how to supplement the child's learning whichever path you take.
But one thing is for sure, for IS chinese you need to consider supplementing it  heavily outside school if you want to achieve good standard.

shadeslayer

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btw, I'm asking for comments and advice here. not asking for more questions ...

BTW, those were my comments. They made you think.
Applying great pressure at a young age like kindergarten up is not training for competitiveness, it is torture or child abuse.  Pressure needs to be applied the right amount at the right time. HK has so many children having to go to tuition since kindergarten. Super difficult curriculum in primary school and burn out the children before secondary school.

If simply applying pressure is the answer to education and being competitive, HK, China and India would not have so many students taking their own lives every year.

If you think Westeners are all lazy, you probably have not worked with many of them before.

You have conflicting objectives since the first post. You don't want the busy schedule of local school but you want the study to be less relax to train competitiveness.  Do you want a busy schedule or not?  Only you can make your mind up.

Strongly suggest you watch the movies " I not stupid" and "the three idiots"

hkparent

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-05 發表
我同c6會係阿仔初中近返澳州長住,阿字係超12月尾超細b,已有沙田一線津校自行offer,另外ESF SJS應該都會有of ...

Why do you need so much Chinese if you plan to live in Australia permanently? I'd choose ESF definitely. The worrying thing about studying in local primary school is that the child will get used to rote learning and can't train up higher order thinking skills which are essential later in life.

vivian-chy

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魚與熊掌，睇你覺得critical thinking, learning interest n spirtual development緊要，抑或學習中文緊要。我選擇咗is, 因我認為前者無得'教'，要配合家庭、老師、學校、環境多方面啟發。再者，而家local school學生嘅中文亦唔見得特別標青，試睇下好多5、6年級嘅作文，可能你會有唔同睇法。為功課每天勞氣，為分數高低而精神緊張，為小朋友是否達標而不斷追趕？我寧願自己教中文，就孩子學習嘅進度同興趣慢慢嚟，人生流流長，無必要一時三刻學識所有嘢。
其實你喺is forum問呢個問題，相信答案都係一致. Good luck.

pandaforever

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-05 發表
我同c6會係阿仔初中近返澳州長住,阿字係超12月尾超細b,已有沙田一線津校自行offer,另外ESF SJS應該都會有of ...

如果esf 比到offer我會揀佢。LS 係spoon feed 學生，當你比人spoon feed後，你好難適應take initiative嘅學習環境。

Jane1983

IS的好處，上面的家長已經講得清楚，亦真係比local school優勝。而家有些名小的功課、默書和測考量，係需要一個好乖、好專注的小朋友，先可以在合理時間完成。扭吓、慢d、發吓吽斗，就日日做2、3個鐘。

但講到中文，讀完小學，中文叻的小朋友應該根底幾好。如果屋企培養到看書習慣，出國後保持聽講讀寫的機會（訂中文報紙、書、寫信給長輩...）小朋友真係有機會keep到functional的水平，亦眼見有成功例子。

兜兜要轉轉

same situation here, I'm planning to choose local school first and IS as a backup, same reason, Chinese study!

兜兜要轉轉

我自己本身係澳洲大，明白細個有同無讀過中文的分別，所以我會比阿仔打好中文基礎。

我覺得你無需擔心阿仔第日返澳洲會唔會唔慣，因爲一定會慣！相反中文學習同明白自己係香港人呢d，你係國際學校係唔會發生同學習到的。

Jules_S

我覺得都要睇埋小朋友性格，適合讀local 或IS. 而有些local school 亦不完全是spoon-fed, 我亞仔讀直資學校，學生主要是local student, 但亦有不同國籍學生，對non-chinese speaking 學生有經驗，較有耐性，所以中文進歩得好快，功課亦唔多，亞仔讀得好開心。
我地選擇返來香港，就是希望佢多認識中文及本地香港。因係外國時，見到太多香港及中國小朋友學習中文的困難，中文唔易學,無語境，無動力，好難學到。長大後最叻都係識聽識講，好少識睇同寫。

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我係美國公司做左9年,我嘅role係對鬼多過對人,唔可以話western個個lazy,有好多都好抨搏好捱得,但比例一定唔會多過唐人,
我係澳州office番工,d人準時放工,週五4點就開酒飲了,weekend邊會覆email?你個樣係外國人又或者ABC可能用同一態度係香港做野冇問題,但你如果兩樣都唔係但working attitude咁 relax, 睇你幾時被炒


你講嗰兩套戲我睇過啦,自殺嘅問題同家長有否正確輔導同心理教育有好大因素,d小朋友從小順風順水,世界睇得咁少就會易鑽牛角尖,

pc430

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Thanks你嘅過來人經驗很有用

pc430

兜兜要轉轉 發表於 15-2-6 10:00
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hkparent

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我係美國公司做左9年,我嘅role係對鬼多過對人,唔可以話western個個lazy,有好多都 ...

You said you wanted to live in Australia permanently. If your child is raised there, likely he will follow the working norms there and enjoy work and life. Why bother the working life and people's work attitudes in Hk then? Do you think Australia has a poorer economy than Hk because its people are more relaxed?

DreamKid

原帖由 hkparent 於 15-02-06 發表
You said you wanted to live in Australia permanently. If your child is raised there, likely he will  ...

Ha ha 好同意 ！

鬼老無我地咁勤力，但比我地賺得多。中個人淨係識死做。不過，宜家既年青人都高叫 work life balance。