文學、社科、商學，讀那個學院好？

eviepa

各位，我女兒讀中四文科，中英數平均，最喜歡視覺藝術。從興趣著眼，入讀中大藝術系就肯定如魚得水。作為爸爸，她喜歡讀甚麼我也會支持。但她自己覺得讀藝術日後出路太差，所以大概只會選作副修，主修會找一科有些興趣，亦有較好前途的科目去讀。

如果以興趣著眼，社會科學院內的科目應較適合她的性格。商學則嫌太沉悶。

如果以前途著眼，以今天的情況看，似乎商學院最佳。

不過，世界可能漸漸在變，中學已經希望文中有理、理中有文。似乎現在文學院、社會科學院這些在大學裡著重理論的學科，有漸漸抬頭的勢頭，反而著重實務的商學的氣勢有稍減的跡象。

大家有甚麼意見？

friendlyguy

原帖由 eviepa 於 11-10-3 20:06 發表
各位，我女兒讀中四文科，中英數平均，最喜歡視覺藝術。從興趣著眼，入讀中大藝術系就肯定如魚得水。作為爸爸，她喜歡讀甚麼我也會支持。但她自己覺得讀藝術日後出路太差，所以大概只會選作副修，主修會找一科有些興趣，亦有較好前途 ...

Eviepa,

在大學，如果唔想讀professional subjects，如Health profession, arch, eng, account etc.(may be with the exception of law.)，1st degree讀乜科都冇所謂，因為畢業後做乜都得。但一定要讀得好，讀得舒服，多時間玩。所以我覺得一定興趣和能力先行，既然Evie入讀中大藝術系肯定如魚得水，藝術系一定是首選，我會鼓勵佢讀，副修可以市儈一點修商科作為保險，將來有需要2nd degree 可讀商科。一定要開開心心享受四年至算。而且讀藝術讀得好，出路可能很好未定。

Friendlyguy

daisychan

Last week, one of my friends asked the same question - "女兒讀中四文科，中英數平均，最喜歡視覺藝術。讀那個學院好?" I suggest her to consider Architecture. Both CUHK & HKU have provided this programme. Bring Evie to their admission talks (the one organised directly by the Faculty of Architecture) to get a taste of it and see whether it suits Evie or not.

judy

原帖由 eviepa 於 11-10-3 20:06 發表
各位，我女兒讀中四文科，中英數平均，最喜歡視覺藝術。從興趣著眼，入讀中大藝術系就肯定如魚得水。作為爸爸，她喜歡讀甚麼我也會支持。但她自己覺得讀藝術日後出路太差，所以大概只會選作副修，主修會找一科有些興趣，亦有較好前途 ...

eviepa,

我會選一些一係好專好實際嘅學科，一係就好浪漫嘅學科。前者成專業人，易揾食。後者訓練高階思考能力，有利長期發展。

前一两星期信報練乙錚有文章論及此一範疇，可參考一下。

friendlyguy

Yes, Arch is good for those people with art sense. However, being an Arch. (as for any other professionals) is a life long commitment. Before qualify, a student arch has to have 2 degrees, professional exams afterwards and on job training. It may take about 10years from the first date you enter U. It is also one of the most demanding courses in the U. In my date, Arch students spend most of their time for study. Some even sleep in the studio. If Evie decide to go for Arch, Eviepa has to prepare that he will seldom seen Evie during these few years. So, think before you commit.

Yanamami

Is Evie good at computing as well?  How about Visual Communication?

NKpa

真的是依興趣和能力。

有心有力才有好成績，到時那怕無出路。

annie40

Eviepa,

支持friendlyguy 的见解!


annie

eviepa

謝謝大家的意見和資料。做一個小結，喜歡繪畫，如果按照興趣，可以：

1. 讀architecture，好處是做個專業人士，但弊處是課程和工作都是極端demanding。
2. 讀藝術、設計、visual communications等科。讀的時候，女兒會很有滿足感，畢業後工作不一定差。

我想問一下大家：

1. 有誰知道讀完藝術、設計、visual communications等科，普遍來說，前途是怎樣？是否如一般的看法，讀藝術，前途比較差？

2. 除了architecture, accounting, law 之外，還有甚麼專業科目可供文科選擇？

3. judy所講的，「前一两星期信報練乙錚有文章論及」liberal study的好處（應是九月二十二及二十三日連續兩日的文章），認為讀社會科學、文科、純理科也是很好的選擇。大家的見解是如何？

[ 本帖最後由 eviepa 於 11-10-4 22:41 編輯 ]

gigivinda

" 2. 除了architecture, accounting, law 之外，還有甚麼專業科目可供文科選擇？"

For an arts student studying accounting, he/she will be disadvantaged in his/her long term development, as nowadays Accounting is very much finance oriented, which requires good Maths foundation.  This is especially so in Hong Kong as a lot of Hong Kong companies are related to the Finance industry or participate in different kinds of investments.  Nowadays accounting entries are no longer recorded using "cost".  And, accountants need to do a lot of finance related reports like stress testing, which will be easier for a person who is good at Maths.

And for a solicitor, he/she may need to deal with a lot of lawsuits which are involved with the financial reports of companies.  And therefore, it is good for a law student to study Accounting.

[ 本帖最後由 gigivinda 於 11-10-4 23:06 編輯 ]

eviepa

Gigivinda

我女兒的數學不俗，日後的文憑試多半會拿B。對修讀accounting來說，相信根基已經足夠。如果真的選讀這科，又覺得有需要，可以在大學時再讀微積分、統計學，那就萬無一失了。

daisychan

Eviepa,

Will you consider BBA(Global Business) as a "professional" programme? It is also suitable for a student studying art subjects.

daisychan

NKpa

1. 例如室內設計

2. 經理

3. 人文和科學雖然比較難學以致用，但其中思考的訓練在各行各業都受用。

cherubic

現時在香港當architect並沒有太多空間發揮。香港的商場及辦公室大同小異，住宅盡是炒業樓，design主要是由developer的sales dept話事。加上香港的地供應太少及面積有限，有創意都未能盡發揮。我知道有不少有heart 的architect 都轉了去做室內設計或主要做renovation. 另外，一個女子要行地盤，開會聽粗口家常便飯，Evie 要考慮她可否適應。

ANChan59

eviepa

On top of many valuable suggestions, you may need to check the special requirements and admission grades of those programs (HKALE grades still a good indicator).

ANChan59

eviepa

ANChan59,

由於我女兒除了視藝外，沒有偏好，所以只要不是太沉悶的，讀甚麼也沒有大問題。

我本人對各學術科目知道一點，但是對大部分科目還是不甚了了；我對各行各業，知道一點，但不知的還是遠比知道的多。這問題在BK討論最好，這裡有不同背景的人，可以讓我以及大家參考一下，集思廣益。

對我來說，現在是brainstorming階段，甚麼古怪念頭都可以拿來想一想，admission grade可以不在此階段研究，但special requirement 就真要想一想了。

Tommy

eviepa,

盡量唔好將藝術同商業一齊讀，會好古怪。搞藝術的人，會覺得佢好市儈；搞生意的人，會覺得佢好唔實際；搞專業的人，覺得佢唔夠專業……Second Degree另計。

最好都係選自己最有興趣的科目，有興趣就較容易讀得出色，只要讀得出色就不愁沒有出路。

佢有無興趣教書？如果擔心揾食問題，讀多個教育文憑，將來揾份教職應該唔難，薪高糧準，又算係半個專業人仕。

Tommy

mattsmum

Eviepa,
I had posted a link to a uk website for career discovery earlier. You can ask evie to read about it.enenenthrough it is about uk, their website has systematic summary of careers.

What if she wants to be a town planner/ landscape architect/ museum curator/?

What about starting from the workplaces? Wants to work  in museum?what kind of jobs are available in museum?Wants to be a civil servant? What sort of jobs are available?

[ 本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 11-10-5 07:34 編輯 ]

Yanamami

Excellent idea to think of the workplace 1st!

ANChan59

Just shared what I did for my son in previous years.

1. Exposure - from P5 onward, I brought him to visit factories in HK & China, different office/work environment, visited universities and saw their research outputs, business lunch and dinner. No specific objectives, just exposure only....

2. Internship - business, research, shadowing ...... like private hospital vs public hospital, family medicine vs surgery.... teaching vs research....... HKU vs HKPU vs CUHK....

3. Strengths vs interests - Maths is his exceptional strength, but he will not take Pure Maths or Science subjects, he is interested in economics and finance which is highly related to numbers and modelling. He loves IT, but he won't study IT (software or hardware) or take it as career......

4. Experience sharing - once he identified some areas of interest, we arrnaged some gatherings or telephone talks with "insiders" to explore the pros and cons........Always have conflcted opinions, it's upto him to validate and narrow down his options. Initially, he was interested in Pharmacy, after talking to two "insiders", he switched to medicine....

5. Elimination - most kids can't tell where to go, but they can tell where they don't want to go........ his elimination may not sensible, just gut feeling or misled by wrong info.....

1-5 not in sequencial order...... That is brainstorming, better before F4.....

Once narrow down the career options, checked the admission requirements (Language, general and special) by attending Information day and seminars, meet with further studies officers........ It's critical to pick suitable subjects and admission grades before F4.

No matter how hard we try, still have gaps....... that's what he need to improve between F4 - F6.

Different family has different ways of doing career exploration. Just sharing, no right or wrong..... no single way.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-10-5 13:17 編輯 ]