請問有冇外地回流家長既小朋友和我小朋友既情況一樣呢? 要請教你們很多東西~~

AKLAMY

我小朋友係外地出世, 想返HK諗小學, 中文是很有限, 我試過sent 出幾封 emails 比幾間小學問佢地收唔收呢種情況既學生, 一間學校話唔識中文唔緊要, 小朋友可以係佢學校讀法文, 叫我返HK 填application form, 另一間話p1 同 p2 都會收, 但p1 入好d , 中文唔使追得咁辛苦....
希望有經驗的你幫我答下以下問題:

(1) 請問你地會選擇邊類學校呢?
(2) 請問有邊d 學校會唔介意收咁情況既學生呢?
(3) 請問伸請"居港權" 既方法, 事情係點樣情況既呢?
(4) 你地小朋友喜不喜歡HK 既生活?

Pls give me any ideas or recommendations regarding to my situation...thanks..

AKLAMY

Philipwhau,
Thank you so much for your detailed reply. I have visited Victoria's website and felt that most of the students are English-speaking (cos' of the school environment), am I right?

We want to put our kids to a "non-international environment" school, then they will learn Chinese properly and naturally. We don't worry about their English cos' we speak English at home.

Do you know any schools (not international schools) would consider accepting kids like ours? I believe young kids can pick up the language very fast, so, I don't worry about young kids' learning ability but wonder if there are any schools would give them chances to be part of them.

Anyway, thanks again for your reply. Look forward to hearing more from you soon.

WYmom

Amy,

As said before, have you tried to ask Creative Primary at Kowloon Tong?  They are not international school, not traditional, kids speak in Cantonese, and it is private, so may be able to accept your kid.  For other local schools, don't think that they will accept kids at primary who cannot speak or write Chinese.

麟媽媽

Amy,

我有親戚以前係愉景灣偉倫小學教書，佢話佢地都收好多呢類學生。
當然，以英語為母語既小朋友真係會追得好辛苦，一來所有科目都以中文授課，而且現在小一課本都好深了，同我地以前唔同，因為好多elementary既野已改於幼稚園時教授。中文課文已不是一句起兩句止，小一已是篇篇五、六十字的文章了。
如果你是識中文的，這還好因你可幫孩子一把，小朋友聽得懂中文嗎？最好由而家開始便多跟他們說中文，等佢地適應吓。聽親戚說有些學生是金髮的外國小孩，真係唔知上堂講咩架！最終都是退左學了。

思佳媽咪

Amy,

你小朋友有多大呢？如果他只是6歲，你又很想他讀中文的話，可否考慮讓他重讀 K3？打好中文底才上小學，如他已7歲，就讓他讀P.1。中文是很難學的語言，不能期望學校有太多的支援，要自己努力適應，情形就如說中文的小朋友移民到外國一樣，甚至更要困難一點，因中文比英文難學。

我也識得一個朋友的兒子，從外國回流回來讀local名校的P.1，中文科一直追得很辛苦，默書差不多次次不及格，甚至捧蛋，這令他十分討厭讀中文。所以，你如果堅持讓他讀local school，除了找一間壓力較小，英文為主中文為副的小學（如新直資和私校）外，你也要為他惡補中文，讓他學懂寫和讀香港幼稚園要求孩子學識的字，並和他多說中文，才能追到別人的進度。否則，就算學校肯接納他的程度低些，如他次次考試/評估都不及格，挫敗感會很大。香港的local school是不可能有tailor-made課程給個別學生的。

不過，你也不要太擔心，小朋友的適應能力很強，有時是超乎我們想象的哩！嘗試請教一下專家，找一些有趣的方法教導他中文，網上也有很多中文故事網、中文識字網等，可提起他學中文的興趣。

WaWaMom

*Amy*

We are returned immigrants for a few years and my kid is going to P1 this year, so maybe able to share a bit.

However, would like to ask the following questions before throwing any opinion.
1) How long are you planning to stay HK?
2) How old is your kid?

It really makes a difference.

AKLAMY

WYmom,
Thanks for your suggestion, 我問過幾位朋友有關啟思 (是這問吧!), 衡量過我地既needs 同佢既provisions, 和看了多方面既資料, 我諗我地應該唔會選這間...and of course it is a good school.  Thanks for your sincere suggestion.


麟媽媽,
多謝你既分享, 我都盡量和我小朋友說中文, 他們聽得懂但多數選擇用英文回應, 我都有用中文識字cards 和 中文DVDs, 他們聽比說來得好! 希望他們有朝一日都能操良好的中文, 好似思佳媽媽說的一樣, 中文比英文難學好多! Anyway...thanks for your sharing.

思佳媽媽, WaWaMom,
thanks for your care. 我現有兩個小朋友, 一個4歲, 一個兩歲, 我們打算回港大約 5 / 6 years (at least the older kid completes primary). 他們聽中文還可, 講就有困難! 但若果他們spend time with Chinese for awhile, they will strive to talk to them in Chinese cos' that might be the only way to communicate among themselves (by their experiences).

思佳媽媽的講法也很行得通 (i.e. 英文為主, 中文為副的學校), 重讀kindy 也是另一辦法, 但我大的小朋友(my son) 今年便升讀小一 (schools start at the age of five here). 所以我唔想佢讀完一年小學之後返轉頭讀kindy, (it might not make sense to my son and I think he will feel upset about it too..)

請問有邊間學校係"英文為主, 中文為副" 的呢? 有冇學校提意呢?

思佳媽媽, 請問你朋友個小朋友讀邊間小學? 他有在HK諗kindy 或是 回港後一入就入小一呢?

再次多謝各位既幫忙~~

思佳媽咪

Amy,

你的小朋友還小，可訓練的空間仍很多。是否讓他repeat kinder是你的意願，兩地學制不同，你可向他解釋，香港的K3課程相當深，都唔少

AKLAMY

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思佳媽咪 寫道:
Amy,

......是否讓他repeat kinder是你的意願，兩地學制不同，你可向他解釋，香港的K3課程相當深，都唔少

WaWaMom

Amy,

FYI, kids in HK are eligible to get in Local P1when they are at least 5-year and 8-month old in September. Let say your kid was born in 2000 (any date of the year), he/she is eligible to get in P1 in 2006 Fall.

Share my experience, when we just returned to HK, my kid studied at an int’l kg with minimal Chinese teaching. We tried to teach her more Chinese characters but she was not so willing to learn as she communicates with her classmates in English all the times. Then, we switched her to a local kg and it was amazed that she is able to pick up many Chinese characters. You can’t image kg students in HK learn quite complex Chinese characters.

Also, you may have to be aware that local schools emphasize much more on academicals achievement which are totally different from North America or Europe ones.

Back to your questions:
(1) 請問你地會選擇邊類學校呢?
For us, we prefer our kid enjoy the childhoods and schooling.  So, we gave up traditional schools which give more or less pressure to students and parents for academicals accomplishment.  Same as you, our kid may not stay HK for High school, so we pick an English stream school for her.

To be serious, choosing a school is really depended on your kid’s character and what your expectation is.

(2) 請問有邊d 學校會唔介意收咁情況既學生呢?
If you kids are still in Junior Primary, I think quite a few schools are willing to accept them as they can pick up Chinese much easier. For details, I can’t comment too much as I just have minimal knowledge. Properly other BK moms can give you a hand.


(3) 請問伸請"居港權" 既方法, 事情係點樣情況既呢?
As long as one of the parents can prove that he/she has a job in HK and financially OK to support the kids, it is not hard to apply "居港權". However, if your kid doesn’t have "居港權", he/she is not entitled to DSS or Subsidized schools.

(4) 你地小朋友喜不喜歡HK 既生活?
My daughter was 2 when she returned HK, so, she can easily adapt HK’s lifestyle. Only her parents, we, were confused by the HK educational reform.  However, my friend’s kid was 6 and he had a little bit hard time but finally overcame it. If you plan to come back, better explain to your kids in advanced. At least, it gives them some time to prepare mentally.

思佳媽咪

Amy,

請問他們是"中文為主. 英文為副" or "英文為主, 中文為副" 呢?

對不起，我打錯字，應該是「英文為主. 中文為副」。

AKLAMY

WaWaMom ,
Thanks for your helpful reply.

I understand that choosing a school should fit my kid's character and our expectations put on him. However, I only know my son's character but don't know the "characters" of these schools. This is very difficult for us to make decisions. It is good that BK allows me to ask so many questions in order to find out more about different systems and schools (well...the system is a bit complicated that I had thought of).

So, I am not going to "cater or mold" my boy into a certain "style" to try to get into some schools. I would love to find out the school which matches his personality and helps him develop his potentials.

So far, I have sent out a few emails to different schools and only two showed that they cared about the situation among other replied emails.

Personally, I also prefer to put my son into a non-international school then he will have max. chance to contact with Chinese speaking little friends. I am confident that he will pick up Chinese fast but it doesn't mean not painfully....hahhaa..

Maybe an international stream at a non-international school is the best choice for him. Then he still can learn in English (except Chinese lesson) and at the same time spends  lots of time with Chinese speaking friends. What do you think of it, WaWaMom?

About applying for 居港權"in HK,  would you mind sharing more with me (the process (where, how, when)  and any documents were required...etc..)?

Again, thanks so much for your caring replies...

puibb

Maybe an international stream at a non-international school is the best choice for him.

崇真國際部
[url=www.ttpskg.edu.hk ]www.ttpskg.edu.hk [/url]

puibb

Maybe an international stream at a non-international school is the best choice for him.

崇真國際部
[url=www.ttpskg.edu.hk ]www.ttpskg.edu.hk [/url]

有關入境方面，看看：
http://www.immd.gov.hk/chtml/topical_3.htm

http://www.immd.gov.hk/chtml/id881.htm
你和你老公其中一方有身份證嗎？

AKLAMY

puibb,
Thanks for your useful information. I have kept them into my "favourites" already.

係呀, tt 都是我心儀既小學之一, 佢既活動很多, 校訓和vision 都是我非常喜歡的! 我諗我都會去試呢間, 但也希望知多點, 看多點, 到時可能唔止只係報讀一間!

Thanks for all your websites...

lochan

Amy,

Although learning Chinese is very important, I wonder if your child is receiving the education abroad and assume that he enjoys it and was taught the creative thinking. Will he adapt to the more rigid, non-creative style of most local schools?

I think something like Logos should fit your purpose. Of course this is only my guess. Victoria sounds promising too according to Philip's hard sell!  

HEE

Dear Amy,

I just came back with my son on this August.  My son is studying in St Margaret Co-edu Primary and Secondary School.  

AKLAMY

lochan,
thanks for your comments. There are pros and cons regarding to studying in HK. Discipline training is one of the good things about studying in HK local schools.

HEE,
How old is your kid? Did he learn Chinese before he ends up in HK? Was he interviewed by the school? How many schools did you apply for him?

Could you kindly share about anything you have encounted while you were searching for a proper school for your boy?  --> difficulties, surprises, anything I should know about...etc...thanks

How do you like living in HK so far?