點解要揀一條龍學校，有何好處。

carnival

請各家長俾D意見。

j-ma-ma

Less pressure

angeline

升中時唔使煩囉, 可以直上中學。

st.bintai

carnival 寫道:
請各家長俾D意見。

係教統局既未來方向

唔掂既.........就殺校

daisychan

1.中小學階段的辦學理念和教學安排可以貫徹執行.
2.不用為找中學而煩惱.

carnival

是否真的會直上原校中學呢？你們有否知道這些學校有無升中的要求，有邊間學校介紹。

st.bintai

daisychan 寫道:
1.中小學階段的辦學理念和教學安排可以貫徹執行.
2.不用為找中學而煩惱.

關乜事丫   哩個係教改既一部份

將 d 資源集中分配    遲 d 再

judy

升中時唔使煩囉, 可以直上中學。

想直升中學，話咁易啦，使唔使煩啊？

如果要升好中學、好小學才須煩。一條龍之中學，仲會好得去邊呢？

father_ho

Dear Parent,

If I were the Gov. official, I will much regret to see those comment and it means the marketing of education reform has serious problem. The reason for one dragon school is to change the culture of marks racing game and all student and parent just concentrate on score. They know exactly the way out but didn't have the brave to tell the truth since it will demand lots of manpower(mismatch of teachers) and create social impact.
So please please open you eye to select school now since the gov. already hinted it but cannot say it. Don't still concentrate on those now so call famous school, actually those school are already changing(teaching approach such as St. Mary, you should notice that their student has much less homework now). That's my view, correct me if I am wrong.

st.bintai

father_ho 寫道:
Dear Parent,

If I were the Gov. official, I will much regret to see those comment and it means the marketing of education reform has serious problem. The reason for one dragon school is to change the culture of marks racing game and all student and parent just concentrate on score. They know exactly the way out but didn't have the brave to tell the truth since it will demand lots of manpower(mismatch of teachers) and create social impact.
So please please open you eye to select school now since the gov. already hinted it but cannot say it. Don't still concentrate on those now so call famous school, actually those school are already changing(teaching approach such as St. Mary, you should notice that their student has much less homework now). That's my view, correct me if I am wrong.

Regret that you are totally wrong

麻煩你再 open your eyes 去睇睇　人口出生率　，　大學學位數量，　政府點樣撥款比大中小學

教統局而家係到掃緊垃圾 　做緊垃圾分類

你見唔見到係由屋村幼兒開始來料嗎

再諗諗　２　年後

father_ho

Of course the side effect is some school no matter it is pri. or sec. school will be killed but I believe it is not the intention to do it. Also, it is the opposition of some schools so the existing system has different types: one dragon, DSS, private school.
One dragon school still has the requirement for student to score a certain grade/marks before student can promote to sec. so these school still need to push the student starting from P3 and their approach can not be too far from traditional one but a bit better than gov./sub school(most likely they will still use those traditional ex. book). DSS has greater degree of freedom namely in selecting student and they can accept all their pri. student but still control/audit by gov. in their usage of funding. Private school of course all free and min. control from gov.(only that they are a educational institute).
Although HK birth rate is decreasing, it doesn't mean that all child can surely enter a 'good' U. since if they admit student like that, gov. must not allow (absolute standard are emerging rather than curve fitting means U. can not manipulate figure anymore. You should realise all U. are trying their best to find overseas students to fill up the gap)
That's the reason why Gov. always say that they will not cut the overall education funding and it is true in their sense.

carnival

睇黎，綜合大家的意見，無論是否一條龍的學校，都是要俾心機讀書，考取佳績，升上心儀的中學。

youma

一條龍和直屬制度, 都是有違公平原則, 並且損人不利己.

cow

一條龍學校可以幫助小朋友從小學升中學的改變減到最小，例如中學老師可以抽些時間教小學生，又或者小學生可以抽些時間到中學部上堂，小朋友容易適應中學的學校、老師和同學，無咁容易變壞。

father_ho wrote,
One dragon school still has the requirement for student to score a certain grade/marks before student can promote to sec

It's ture to some extent but the requirements are the same for one to promot, for example, from P4 to P5.

youma wrote,
一條龍和直屬制度, 都是有違公平原則, 並且損人不利己

比起小一和中一派位，一條龍已不是不公平了!
世上所有事都[可以說成]是不公平的!

hello_minimini

cow,

I totally agree to your point of view.  Our kids are having too much pressure to go through all kind of examinations to get into good sec. sechool nowaday.  Many children have been giving up to learn extra useful stuff by concentrating on getting high mark in paper examinations in early stage of their education path.  一條龍 school is one good system to correct this situation; it is not a matter of fairness.

babymicky38

I agreed, 起碼將來唔洗再煩... 幾好...

father_ho

One dragon school sounds good but it is different from DSS and it does not loosen the pressure of examination. Indeed, it just protect school to retent the so call good exam machine(eg.fast cal. student HK is number one but I didn't heard of any such student has bright math. development). I am not say that student are no need to work hard but in different way of development.
One dragon school can only reserve a certain % seat to their pri. student (depend on the agreement with gov.) actually is not much different from existing stucture (they just select the "top one"). You can still getin if you score high mark in Pri 4,5,6 and your pri. school are not so bad.

SandyKL

好處:

1)中、小學辦學模式、教學理念相近甚或一致，學生升中後唔需要由頭適應。
2)小學生唔需要擔心升中結果，小學階段唔需要力谷學術方面，學生有較大空間去發展其他方面。
3)對家長黎講，唔需要頻樸擔心升中情況，多左時間去親子。

每一個制度都有一批人話公平，有人話唔公平架啦!認為公平與否取決於自己是否係既得利益者囉!   

youma

Cow,

1. "比起小一和中一派位，一條龍已不是不公平了!"
甘講都得?那麼比起人家打刧, 我做扒手是否無罪?
Definitely the entrance systems of primary and secondary stages are unfair, so are the one dragon and the affiliated systems. They all should be corrected asap, in my opinion.

2. "世上所有事都[可以說成]是不公平的!"?
這話從何說起? Sorry, difficult to agree.

cow 寫道:
...
[quote]youma wrote,
一條龍和直屬制度, 都是有違公平原則, 並且損人不利己

比起小一和中一派位，一條龍已不是不公平了!
世上所有事都[可以說成]是不公平的![/quote]

hello_minimini,

1. If you ask those p4-p6 students in dragon or affiliated schools (e.g. Ying Wah, La Salle, St Joseph, St Mary Primary, etc. ) you will know that they are also under pressure to get good results and struggling for entering into the affiliated secondary schools or maintaining the EMI status.

2. An appropriate level of pressure at P5-6 is not a bad thing, ... in my opinion, at least better than no pressure. There are still many chances in our school life to learn ECAs.

3. Even if some parents are fond of dragon schools for seemingly lower pressure, the system itself cannot remove the unfairness to those non-dragon, non-affiliated students outside who wanted to enter into the dragon secondary school. The greater favor to the dragon parents/students means greater degree of unfairness to non-dragon parents/students.    :cry:

I totally agree to your point of view. Our kids are having too much pressure to go through all kind of examinations to get into good sec. sechool nowaday. Many children have been giving up to learn extra useful stuff by concentrating on getting high mark in paper examinations in early stage of their education path. 一條龍 school is one good system to correct this situation; it is not a matter of fairness.

youma

SandyKL 寫道:
好處:

1)中、小學辦學模式、教學理念相近甚或一致，學生升中後唔需要由頭適應。
...

適應新環境, 認識新同學, 學習新理念, 不是現今教育常常強調的嗎?

每一個制度都有一批人話公平，有人話唔公平架啦!認為公平與否取決於自己是否係既得利益者囉!  

不錯, 有子女讀龍校的家長, 多數會說這制度公平!

請恕多言.