七歲考五級小提琴

FS

Is it possible for to child to take violin grade 5 exam at 7 year old ? I'm quite doubt about it. One of my friends told me that her nephew start to learn violin at 5 years old and now have taken the grade 5 exam after learning violin for two years.  Amazing !!

My daughter is also learning violin for two years. Her teacher told me that she may take grade 3 exam next year ( i.e. a total 3 year to learn for taking the grade 3 exam )


Any comment ?

Is that nephew a gifted child in violin ?

FS

judy001

It depends on the final result of Grade 5 violin. If your nephew can have merit or above result in ABRSM, it worths taking the exam at 7 years old.

I think even one has Grade 8 pass in instrument is useless cos. no prestigious school or musican would look upon on the pass result. I know a girl in Yips who obtained Grade 8 distinction in violin by 8 years old. Is it amazing and unbelieveable?  

kaka0814

Grade 5 in fact is not so difficult. If the students play hard enough, that's not very difficult one. I dare not to say he's talents or not. Remember we have a 李傳韻? He played the Lalo (a LTCL diploma exam piece!!) at 5-year-old for the competition -- in the case, I believe what we define a talent would change our mind.

Beside this, how to teach and how he learn will become another issue -- did he only learn 3 songs? I doubt a child to be able to read the score for the sight-reading exam. Most teachers in the market will push students to play 3 songs for almost a year, and just reach to a grade. Does it really means to learn music?

Indeed, many children could play good instrument. I have a student that got grade 8 piano at his 7-year-old. He is right now learning piano at APA junior will full scholarship. However, I still remember what he sightread to me is somehow rubbish  

Anyway, just wishing you a success in the music road -- that's a tough road I could say...

bbtung

七歲考五級小提琴

I am just one of the most common mothers in HK. In my opinion, it is very very good and fantastic for a child to have violin grade five at his seven years old. I have no music background. But I will think that a child can take grade 5 at 7 years old, he may take get grade 8 at 9 years old. And then get his Diploma at 11 year old. It is very very fast. He may have plenty of time to further study in music since 11 years old.  

I don't know whether my assumption is right. Please advise me.

By the way,  kaka0814 can you enlighten me why the music road is rough ? Is it very hard in the learning process ? Or you are talking about the money reward and effort is not in proportional ? As my daughter is feeing very happy with the learning of violin, she said that she would like to be a violin teacher in future. I am also encourage her. Grateful if you could give me some advice in this respect.

bbtung

judy001

Is he following Ms. Eleanor Wong in APA and studying in a famous boy school? How does he get the full scholarship in APA as the prospectus in APA does not mention the scholarship for junior programme?

For Li Chuen Wan, his mother is famous for training violin prodigy in Hong Kong. As far as I know, his mother has trained many many students passing with Grade 8 distinction in violin before P.5 in Yips. It is quite a pity she does not teach students in Hong Kong now. I am not surprised that she produces the violin gift Li Chuen Wan!

   
     

kaka0814 寫道:
I have a student that got grade 8 piano at his 7-year-old. He is right now learning piano at APA junior will full scholarship. However, I still remember what he sightread to me is somehow rubbish  

bbtung

I am just one of the most common mothers in HK. In my opinion, it is very very good and fantastic for a child to have violin grade five at his seven years old. I have no music background. But I will think that a child can take grade 5 at 7 years old, he may take get grade 8 at 9 years old. And then get his Diploma at 11 year old. It is very very fast. He may have plenty of time to further study in music since 11 years old.

I don't know whether my assumption is right. Please advise me.

By the way, kaka0814 can you enlighten me why the music road is rough ? Is it very hard in the learning process ? Or you are talking about the money reward and effort is not in proportional ? As my daughter is feeing very happy with the learning of violin, she said that she would like to be a violin teacher in future. I am also encourage her. Grateful if you could give me some advice in this respect.

bbtung

kaka0814

Judy001,

He is right now a student of Mr. 郭嘉特。A better teacher than Eleanor Wong that I believe. He is not in a famous school, but his family provide him quite a lot of support that allowing him to have a Grand Piano at home.

Beside, did Li got a violin teacher mom? I just know his father is a violin teacher but not knowing his mom. Please let me know more on this issue.


bbtung,

Music road in fact is hard. If you get higher grade, usually you will be lost. I still remember the time I had when I was young. Winning competition, having high score in exams, music prize in school...etc. But once I enter my university.... well..... I lost since usually you won't know what will be later. I am not able to compete with my classmates / friends. And should I go further and learn? Who should be my teacher? -- these questions become headache to me. Anyway, I enjoy my music life. Road is tough, but we could still walk though it happily if you would.

bbtung

Dear kaka0814 .

Thanks a lot for your sharing and advice.


bbtung

kaka0814

bbtung,
不用客氣, 還是互相分享一下而已

Mimi_Ma

sorry,   我不太懂音樂,   不過囡囡同學的哥哥,  今年
10 歲學緊演奏級,  是否很 '叻' o架..... ?

judy001

kaka0814,

Li's mother is a famous violin teacher in Yips since 1976. Ms. Yau's reputation of course is not famous than her husband but she is a supreme teacher to train violin prodigy in Hong Kong. I believe that Ms. Yau is a better teacher than her husband in teaching violin. Most studied in DGS and Yips who obtained diploma in violin in primary school years a decade ago were under the tutition of Ms. Yau. In 2003, Singtao has a page reporting Li and his parents. You may find Ms. Yau's name in some pamphets of her students in Yips.

      

himmamme

I know a boy got Grade 8 at 9 years old. Good or not??? I listened to his performance.....not very good actually. Pass the exam does not mean that the child is really doing good in his/her skills.
HK parents tend to be exam-oriented.

kaka0814

Dear Judy0001,

Thanks for your information. I just know his mom was his manager only. Anyway, he is a student of 林耀基 in fact. If you have chance to meet Mr. Lam, well... you will know why he got so much good students.

Dear Himmamme,

In fact, so of my friends also got their grade 8 under 10 years old. But does it really means that's good? Exam-oriented based learning only need students to learn 3 songs per years -- it doesn't mean the real music road. More discussion could be made on this topic.

judy001

kaka0814,

In Yips, 楊寶智教授also has a lot of brilliant students besides 林耀基。I haven't met  林耀基before but my friend's kids are under the tutition of 楊寶智教授。They all got diploma dist. before F.1.

But I agree that many parents including me just push their kids for the 3 songs to get Grade 8 dist qual which is meanless for the road of music. But the fact that all of them can be admitted to DGS or DBS due to their music achievements! My 5-year old kid also takes the Grade 5 violin exam in the coming April. (he has already obtained Grade 2 dist in voilin in this year's April exam)

Am I crazy?



  

himmamme

judy001 寫道:
kaka0814,

My 5-year old kid also takes the Grade 5 violin exam in the coming April. (he has already obtained Grade 2 dist in voilin in this year's April exam)

Am I crazy?



  

Really?

Including theory or not?

judy001

Grade 5 theory is too difficult for him for the moment. He is not studying theory now but just takes the practical exam. All depends his Grade 5 results and P.1 allocation result in the coming months then I decide how to pave his way forward.

Richard_Hui

It is very common that some of the moms push their kids to study music when they are 4 to 5 years old. But later, these mom will comment their kids not doing well or cannot achieve Grade 5 before 10 years old.

But let us think about the reason why we let kids study music.

All we want is to let our kids to have a chance to study different aspects and develop their talents.

Therefore, please do NOT simply compare one kid with another. I admire a kid to get Grade 5 at 7 years old but I also admire a person to get Grade 5 at 17 years old.

The focal point of all is to study happily.

Hope your kids study happily.

sheryl

Richard_Hui 寫道:

But let us think about the reason why we let kids study music.

All we want is to let our kids to have a chance to study different aspects and develop their talents.

Therefore, please do NOT simply compare one kid with another. I admire a kid to get Grade 5 at 7 years old but I also admire a person to get Grade 5 at 17 years old.

The focal point of all is to study happily.

Hope your kids study happily.

      

bbtung

I opine that to study happily is the most important. I would like the kids to enjoy the process in learning especially in music. I perfer the study of a musical instrument will bring happiness to the kids rather than the pressure.

Even though the kids got grade 5 or 8 in 10 years old, what will be the next ?

I think they will just also need to complete their secondary school and university as usual.

Enjoyment in the learning process should be important.

LeungLeungMom

各位有小朋友學Violin的家長,

I have a question that want to share.  Please give me comment and opinion.

My 6 years old boy learns piano since 3 years old.  He has strong motivation to practise everyday and got pretty good result in G.2 exam. and competition when he was 5 yrs. old.  

Last year, he requested me to let him learn violin as well.  Then so I did.  He've learnt more than 1/2 year already.  But he said violin is really difficult, there's no keys to press, all he can do is listen and press the right positions.  His difficulty is right here.  He can listen the key on piano and he can't define the key on violin.

His tutor stresses on training his basis listening and pressing skill over the three months.  He gets great difficult and boring by keeping do the same things over the past three months.

He want to give up now.  I wonder how can I do.  Still encourage him? or let him to give up?  You know, it is very expensive, $150 per 1/2 hour lesson.  Or that the way to learn violin.  If he keep it and will be find the way later.

He will be P.1 student and more homeworks to do.  If I let him give up violin and concentrate school works, homeworks, piano and swimming (his sport interest), is it a good deciion????

Can anyone give me comment or you guys have other point of views???

LeungLeungMom