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標題: 想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎? [打印本頁]
作者: ncjkbb 時間: 15-2-4 21:45 標題: 想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎?
My kid is a year-end baby, he is still not yet talk too much in his class amongst the same year kids. Wonder is it difficult for small b to apply international school reception class in the future? Will there be big difference of big b & small b in speaking English by the age? Thank you!

作者: zuoky 時間: 15-2-6 13:06 標題: 回覆:ncjkbb 的帖子
Same here, I am thinking to postpone 1 year for K1. But not sure if it is possible for ESF or other IS.

作者: Saboc 時間: 15-2-6 13:22
Such as esf has restricted applicant's year of birth for particular year of applica2
作者: Saboc 時間: 15-2-6 13:22
Application
作者: Saboc 時間: 15-2-6 13:23
It means not allow做大b
作者: juju207 時間: 15-2-6 16:21
And some IS cut at september (mostly) or october,
So year end kids r not allowed to apply
作者: pc430 時間: 15-2-6 17:30
my boy is Dec09 kid, we applied ESF last year and got the interview.
The school finally deferred his application to this year and my boy got an interview again since my boy not quite responding to the questions during last year's interview
This year my boy go for interview again, apparently he is much more responsive and get the offer finally.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-6 17:41 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎?
My advise is:
Follow the admission regulation of schools .

作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-7 12:32
My child was born in December. RC told her to defer a year but SJS said she is ok. it really depends on yr child's performance in the interview.
作者: ncjkbb 時間: 15-2-7 12:37 標題: 回覆:juju207 的帖子
May I know which IS allow big boy application?

作者: ncjkbb 時間: 15-2-7 12:48 標題: 引用:My+child+was+born+in+December.++RC+told+
原帖由 Mighty 於 15-02-07 發表
My child was born in December. RC told her to defer a year but SJS said she is ok. it really depend ...
Hi my kid also Dec baby, do u mean RC allow u to apply again in the following year? At last which school u take? I wonder is there any disadvantage in school when studying with elder kids?

作者: ncjkbb 時間: 15-2-7 12:50 標題: 引用:my+boy+is+Dec09+kid,+we+applied+ESF+last
原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-06 發表
my boy is Dec09 kid, we applied ESF last year and got the interview.
The school finally deferred hi ...
Do u mean ESF reception to primary school? Is it different school hv different policy to your case, right?

作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-7 14:07
ncjkbb 發表於 15-2-7 12:48 
Hi my kid also Dec baby, do u mean RC allow u to apply again in the following year? At last which sc ...
Yes RC allowed us to try again the following year. Mind you it was 6-7 years ago so I dont know if their school policy has changed or not. We went for SJS at the end. Disadvantage? I asked myself the same question many times and then we decided to let nature take its course. My child needed extra support (from school) for the first 4 years in her primary years. Now she is in secondary and i would say she is an average kid. She does not hv much confidence in herself. Is it because she was always behind (in the first few years)? Or is it just her character. Who knows?
The difference between big and small children fades as they grow older. Every child is different so I would say its really case by case. I think you should talk to the school about your concern and see what they say. We did talk to both schools before accepting their offers and SJS persuaded us to go ahead.
作者: torunpoland 時間: 15-2-7 14:17 標題: 回覆:Radiomama 的帖子
我認為真心buy IS、明白IS 教育理念的,不會介意大b定細b。校方定立入學時間,不太關心大或細,而是認為呢段時間達到幾多歲的孩子合適入學。

作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-7 14:55
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torunpoland 發表於 15-2-7 14:17 
我認為真心buy IS、明白IS 教育理念的,不會介意大b定細b。校方定立入學時間,不太關心大或細,而是認為呢 ...
但不要忘記、同年1月同12月的、当還是4、5歳時、真係好大分別。 所以完全明白点解耐不耐就有人問大、細B的問題。 我是過来人、問我有無分別? 我可以肯定答:有! 但発展真係因人而異、毎個小朋友都不同、so there are both successful and failure cases.
中途見到the child was struggling...有後悔過、也有同老師講留班的、但留班都有ITS BAD POINTS,結果my child finished her primary years with average results.
作者: torunpoland 時間: 15-2-7 15:15
我當然明白有分別,但讀到IS,最快都要四歲才入學,到時所謂大細之分帶來的能力差異已經收窄得所餘無幾。
作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-7 15:45
可不是呢! 我個人感覚是8歳以下都有明顕分別。
作者: juju207 時間: 15-2-7 16:02
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Most! Like CIS, GSIS...U can just read different schools' websites
作者: oooray 時間: 15-2-7 21:15 標題: 回覆:Mighty 的帖子
我撐你。如以ISA结果分析,Year 6以下,每差一年,能力上係有明顯分別。

作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-2-7 21:36 標題: 引用:可不是呢! 我個人感覚是8歳以下都有明顕
原帖由 Mighty 於 15-02-07 發表
可不是呢! 我個人感覚是8歳以下都有明顕分別。
非常同意!

作者: 貝珠 時間: 15-2-8 00:40
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大家都係concern 細幾個月, interview 的表現一定冇大b 咁好, 尤其是現在僧多粥少, 大家都想更有把握, 並非不同意IB 理念
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-8 01:50
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 15-2-8 13:18 編輯
Mighty 發表於 15-2-7 14:55 
但不要忘記、同年1月同12月的、当還是4、5歳時、真係好大分別。 所以完全明白点解耐不耐就有人問大 ...
只有家中有細B的孩子才能感受固中的矛盾
My boy was born Nov 2010, was in ESF K1 and currently in another through-train IS Reception (K2). He had no problem with interviews as he is very chatty and raised with near native English. Academic-wise he is doing fine but his writing skill is quite behind so i am getting him some outside help right now. More than half of his current classmates are born the first few months of the year, and he the ONLY student born between Sept-Dec...

Since he's a boy and emotionally not quite mature, I do intend to put him back a year. It is just a matter of when. I know two other moms with year-end boys in our school so i am thinking of asking the school to put them together in the same class if they all defer a year together. I am just planning to talk to the lower school VP about when i should put him back (as spot for the next Reception year will be filling up soon). It will be either this year or next that i will probably be doing this. My husband deferred a year under the advice of his teachers back in Grade 1 (his family moved to Australia when he was 4 years old), and it did him a world of good.
As a 過來人, Mighty, may i ask if you would CONSIDER putting your girl back a year in hindsight? You mentioned "留班都有ITS BAD POINTS", may i ask what the disadvantages are? Any input or advice are greatly welcomed. Thank you in advance!
As for 樓主, ncjkbb may i ask how old your child is right now? Your thread title was 細B考國際小學.. but i suppose you are talking about K2 reception year, is that correct? (because most IS spots are gone by Grade 1) My suggestion too is to stick with the school's policy; that way you'd always have a possible 2nd chance. You cannot believe how much a year would make, but never risk the school cutting you out because the child is "a month too old" to try for a year behind. In the mean time, unfortunately, you just have to make sure the baby is up to par with kids 11 months older then him...

作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-8 13:17
Disadvantages : (1) self esteem might get damaged (2) the child might get bored doing the same thing again
So if you can make up your mind, i would say do it before Y1.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-2-8 14:18
剛好小女曾當過班中的細B和大B,在此簡約學習情況是:
女兒是一月生日的,兩歳半時發現了在家附近有一所不錯的本地幼稚園。每星期上兩次playgroup在同一校舍。按當時年紀,要待明年九月才可上K1, 因為年底家人生病,日常生活是翻天覆地,故懇求校長在不違規的情況下,淮許她在一月剛滿三歳時插入K1, 當時班中最大的同學年齡比她大一年兩個月。學校的安排十分週到,孩子亦算成熟,社交上很快便適應了。至於繪畫和寫字,明顯是有差別,手部肌肉未發展,強求不得,偶然發現孩子對做不好的工作紙有,輕微挫敗感,其他發展倒是合理合格。
及后轉讀IS kinder, 因按年份收生,突然成為大B, 適應力強,學習力高,兩三個月,已成為"路透社",每日班中大小事,十分清楚,其他媽咪想知孩子的事,可以問我,或者問佢。因為長得健壯,遇上害羞和柔弱的孩子,她會主動幫忙。這種自信就是年長十個儲蓄回來的。
不明所以的家長誤會經常誤解自己孩子的能力,事實上大自然是有time clock 的,按時段翻土,播種,澆水,施肥是必要的,如果忽略了「時間季節」,就得個(攪)字,多努力也是事倍功半。
作者: annie40 時間: 15-2-8 14:21
是年長十個月儲蓄回來的
作者: Artie 時間: 15-2-8 14:22
Mighty 發表於 15-2-7 14:07 
Yes RC allowed us to try again the following year. Mind you it was 6-7 years ago so I dont know if ...
Mighty, Both of my kids are "smaller kids" (one born in Oct and one born in Dec) and they got offers from RC. My kids are much older than yours probably (my younger one is in Year 11 and older one in university now), and that was also years ago when we applied to RC. I think RC did not really prefer "older kids" back then. Not sure about it now.
More I think during the years in primary, my son have had different special needs classmates. So I guess RC were willing to take special needs students. Again, not sure about it now.
In any case, I think RC admission bar was not exactly strict 6 - 7 years ago. So, I am wondering what the reason was when they asked you to apply again the next year.
Also, when they said they asked you to apply again the next year, did they mean you can apply again for Year One? Or did they mean that you were to apply again but for Year Two?
I know my queries are probably not quite relevant to this topic. But as an RC mom, I am just curious.
作者: annie40 時間: 15-2-8 14:30
女兒的小學特別多西方孩子,其中現象是,按十二月是適齡cut time, 九月后出生的孩子,西方家長幾乎全部要求孩子遅一年入學了。
作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-8 14:51
Artie 發表於 15-2-8 14:22 
Mighty, Both of my kids are "smaller kids" (one born in Oct and one born in Dec) and they got offer ...
RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1. They even recommended some kindis for me to go to as we just came back from overseas. The teacher in charge happened to have a Dec boy so she also chose to defer her own child a year.
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-8 15:05 標題: 引用:Quote:Artie+發表於+15-2-8+14:22+Mighty,+
原帖由 Mighty 於 15-02-08 發表
RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1. They even recommended some kindis for me ...
RC is getting a bit more "selective" nowadays

作者: Artie 時間: 15-2-8 15:20
Mighty 發表於 15-2-8 14:51 
RC asked me to defer a year and came back to apply for Y1. They even recommended some kindis for me ...
We did not really choose to let them start early. We also came back from overseas, and at some point, we merely were trying to find a school. Just any school that was willing to take my kids. The first school we found were willing to take my kids without the need to deferring one year (for kindergarten) and eventually we applied to RC when they were older and RC also did not ask them to defer one year (we probably did not have the same interviewer as you did). Honestly, if either school asked us to defer one year, I would not really mind.
So it was rather like the path chose us, not that we chose the path.
My older one is now in university, and at some point, being only 17 when she started freshman year is kind of inconvenient. She is not in a university in Hong Kong and there were things that we need to arrange for her since she was not 18 yet when school started. Luckily, she is a citizen of that country so there are fewer things to deal with. For my daughter, she rather enjoyed being a "smaller kid" though. She enjoyed being one of the youngest in class even when she was in high school.
作者: gatochat 時間: 15-2-8 15:23
I think if the child was born after 23rd Nov, they can choose to defer a year. This is what a friend of mine told me (RCHK) and her son was born on 17th, so he was not allowed.
Anther option is you can still apply this year and if the school believes your child is not quite ready, they will offer you an interview next year. My son was born on 28th Nov, but I didn't defer him as I was worried about the competition; the birth rate increases every year. I also figured out if my child was not ready, they will defer him, and I was kinda hoping he would be deferred, but instead he was offered a place.
My son being one of the youngest in his class (2 children are 3 days younger than mine) I don't think academically he needs much help. However, emotionally he is still quite immature and being boys, this means sometimes he can get into trouble and can easily be labelled as 'naughty'. Although I am sure this will improve in time so I can't say whether its good or bad to be the youngest...
作者: 紅紅 時間: 15-2-8 17:36 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
我女是十月出身,佢在本地幼稚園的K2中途,我幫佢報IS 的Year 1。當我們去現時學校interview的時候,副校長負責access我個囡,佢地去完school tour回來,副校長同我講佢覺得我囡應該defer back a year, 即是讀reception instead of year 1。副校長怕我唔開心,同我解釋其實都唔算係留班,因為只是香港的制度是計12月,但很多其他國家其實是計8月或9月,所以如果我囡在英國或美國入學,也是未夠枰讀Year 1。
利弊方面,我覺得我囡真的好適合現在呢個年級,可能佢真的發展較遲(身心都係),根本冇人知道佢係deferred back, 所以對心理沒有影響(當然,因為她不是中途defer, 而是一入學就defer, 所以唔會見到以前同班同學在高一班的情況)。除了要交多一年學費外,我暫時諗唔到有乜壞處了!

作者: Mighty 時間: 15-2-8 19:40
紅紅 發表於 15-2-8 17:36 
我女是十月出身,佢在本地幼稚園的K2中途,我幫佢報IS 的Year 1。當我們去現時學校interview的時候,副校長 ...
Yup, that's why I suggested if you cld make up your mind do it before going to Y1.
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-10 00:52
Artie 發表於 15-2-8 15:20 
We did not really choose to let them start early. We also came back from overseas, and at some poi ...
Artie, given you have a daughter and a son both born near the end of the year, do you see a large difference between their development compared with their class as they grow? I heard that boys mature 1-2 years later then girls, and therefore it is better to defer boys a year if the chance is available...
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-10 01:10
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ncjkbb 發表於 15-2-4 21:45 
My kid is a year-end baby, he is still not yet talk too much in his class amongst the same year kids ...
I was rereading your opening post and realized you were also asking:
"Will there be big difference of big b & small b in speaking English by the age?"
The answer also depend on how many languages is the child acquiring at the same time. Given my son was absorbing mainly one core language (English) between 10 months to 2.5 years of age, he was able to speak in complete sentences by age 2 and had an extensive vocabulary going into all K1 & K2 interviews (however he did much better for K2 interviews due to health and emotional maturity).
FYI, it is true that children can acquire several languages at once, but between age 0 to 6 it does deter the speed of acquisition. This means that a child around 2-3 years old (right around the age when the interviews are taking place) who is exposed to 50% English and 50% Chinese will speak slower than one learning just one core language. Note too that usually girls do acquire language faster then boys, but it does depend on the child as well. By age 6 the difference levels out, but by then all interviews are over
For kids born near the end of the year, the competition is even more fierce and therefore i recommend nailing one core language first for a child's development and for interview purposes. Once the child gets in the school of choice, accelerate the 2nd language asap. That's the advantage of being a small B too; by the time he is accepted into a through-train school, he is still young enough to take the window of opportunity to acquire both languages with ease. Once a child passes age 4 it becomes harder and harder to accept a completely new language as a native tongue.
Hope this helps :)
作者: 貝珠 時間: 15-2-10 10:22 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎?
Thanks for your sharing. I totally agree with your strategy. For me, it is hard to implement as the core caretakers are mandarin speaking. My husband resisted to talk to baby in English ( mainly in Cantonese ) and only me speak with her in English now. My girls is August bb and the only way we can do is putting my girl in eng playgroup in longer hours during weekdays.

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-10 10:45 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
本帖最後由 sharons 於 15-2-10 11:03 編輯
我家兩小孩也是10月尾細B,大囡去年面試時已發現跟大、中B有明顯分別,尤其體能及社交,8月開學後發現不足三歲的她差不多是班中最小的,雖說lS比較主流已包容多,但學校還是會比壓力的,沒有人比我更清楚女兒情況,早跟老師說過女兒可能需要約三,四個月甚至一個學期去適應,如我所料,足三歲後情況大有改善,也差不多一個學期了,但跟班中大B比較還是有落差的
今年輪到又是細B的兒子去面試,龍B競爭更激烈,同埸發現其他小孩無論個子或表現都比較成熟及出色,最明顯分別係細B的他根本"不懂適時表現"及說話能力,而我又不是虎媽就隨他做回自己吧,明白男孩子發展比女孩更慢,可以重來會選擇遲一年入學

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-10 10:46 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
本帖最後由 sharons 於 15-2-10 11:02 編輯
不知道是現在香港小孩都較早熟還是小女發展太慢, 話說最近帶女兒去上中文班, 下課後老師話女兒表現比較BB, 後來才知道女兒原來就只39個月大, 因為女兒個子比同齡高大, 還以為她沒5歲也最少4歲呢, 所以細B確係蝕底點
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-10 22:04
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最慘係,12月B defer 一年還說得過。10月11月份的孩子,如果defer一年,便給人感覺"跟不上"才要defer... 
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-10 22:12
貝珠 發表於 15-2-10 10:22 
Thanks for your sharing
. I totally agree with your strategy. For me, it is hard to implement as the ...
Wow, so she is acquiring THREE languages at the same time at home? (okay, technically 2, as Canto & Mando are just different dialects...) I am glad you've got a girl and that she is born in August and not Nov/Dec. Well, i guest you should target schools that accept kids born Jan-Dec and not Sept-Aug.
Given the uniqueness of your situation, i guess you have advantage over bilingual / trilingual IS such as SIS, ISF & Victoria. These schools favor and test children's fluency in multiple languages. CIS & YCIS on the other hand favor ONE core language. Most other IS favor native English.
作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-11 17:10 標題: 回覆:jolalee 的帖子
同意,如果個子高大就更加似留班生了

作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-11 22:14
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haha, good that my boy is kinda small (although i'm 170 and my husband 180cm). He's only 70 percentile in terms of height. I asked him the other day if he wants to be the biggest or smallest kid in class. "Biggest" he replied without skipping a beat, hands down.
Don't worry though, in no time the boys will all be taller then your girl ;)
作者: Artie 時間: 15-2-12 10:57
jolalee 發表於 15-2-10 00:52 
Artie, given you have a daughter and a son both born near the end of the year, do you see a large di ...
Both my daughter and my son had no problems at school. I never really saw any huge difference in development when compared to other children in class. In fact, my son has always been on the fast track. I think each child is different. I am sure parents would know what is best for their own children. There is no harm deferring one year, if that makes parents feel more comfortable and confident.
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-12 16:15
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You are absolutely correct that it is the confidence of the parents and not necessarily the children's abilities that is in question. My son has very little trouble adapting although he is emotionally less mature compared with his classmates. I have actually arranged a meeting with his school's VP to discuss this issue.
Playing devil's advocate, I dug up some 'cons' in "red shirting" a child, either by delaying kindergarten entry or by retention (repeating a year). Those interested may take a look at the entire article: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirting_(Academic)
Long term effect: In the academic arena, advantages are seen not for older students, but for those who are young for their year. In a large-scale study at 26 Canadian elementary schools, first graders who were young for their year made considerably more progress in reading and math than kindergartners who were old for their year (but just two months younger).[17 In another large study, the youngest fifth-graders scored a little lower than their classmates, but five points higher in verbal I.Q., on average, than fourth-graders of the same age.[18 These studies are consistent with the idea that the source of increased opportunity in this case is school itself, with effects that are most favorable to students who are surrounded by children older than themselves.
Although the article in general is inconclusive, some of the points made worry me. Truly confused as to putting my son a year back or not... (Wishing so much he was born in the first half of the year in hindsight...)
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-12 16:49 標題: 引用:回覆+Artie+的帖子 You+are+absolutely+co
原帖由 jolalee 於 15-02-12 發表
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You are absolutely correct that it is the confidence of the parents and not neces ...
Don't worry, what shown up in the studies may not necessarily apply to your kid. My husband was a "big kid" in his class and he got all the good sides from being the biggest, both academic and sports wise. I was a "small girl" but I never knew I was "small" in my class, because I was tall, and was the eldest among my siblings so I thought I was a "big girl" in school and I fared very well and never had problem. I think the crucial factor is being "confident". As far as the kid is confident and comfortable with his status, nothing really matters and there is no definite right or wrong.

作者: lijacq 時間: 15-2-12 18:11 標題: 回覆:964000 的帖子
i think being big kid is good as i was a big kid but never knew i was big. But i could do things a lot better than my classmates, i could jump rope much better than my classmates, i graduated top of the class, i was confuctor of the kindergarten choir. But that was many years ago.

作者: Radiomama 時間: 15-2-12 18:55 標題: 回覆:964000 的帖子
Agree no more! Confidence is crucial.

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 10:18 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
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同意自信好重要,但小孩簡單又直接,好多時自信源自成功感,當眼見別人輕易完成適齡甚或超齡任務,但自已要多次試煉才能成功,甚或也未能達標這足以影響自信,於取易不取難情況下每每做成側重發展,家長當然要適度調節及跟進,做好思想教育,但知易行難,畢竟還是小孩,要小孩瞭解發展需 "全面" 談何容易

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 10:23 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
我本人求學時也是細B,在學習及各方發展上也沒有遇到特別困難,但我的想當年跟今天的現實著實有極大分別,最小"想當年" 已沒有大細B這個說法了

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 10:47 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
但我也相信去到小學,大細B能力之分別應該會收窄

作者: vivicui 時間: 15-2-13 12:49
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作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-13 13:46 標題: 引用:我本人求學時也是細B,在學習及各方發展上
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我本人求學時也是細B,在學習及各方發展上也沒有遇到特別困難,但我的想當年跟今天的現實著實有極大分別, ...
跟本當年上幼稚園只要坐定定便可,沒有甚麼測試比拼,大細B分別不大,亦不會因過早比較影響自信,初小課程亦不會太深,人人機會均等。但現在的戰缐實在set得太早了,兩歲人仔已interview, 三歲,4歲年年in, 每日都逼著要和別人比較

作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 17:26 標題: 回覆:964000 的帖子
不能同意更多。 身邊認識不少於五個第二胎媽媽,首名子女年齡在二至四歲間,選擇今年生產避過龍年,全都“安排“ 好做一月大B,更甚者於一月一日零晨剖腹生產,這反映了甚麼?各已有一名孩子在前,應該有經驗,(家長)夠信心了吧? 看來戰線已靜靜地推得更前了。

作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-13 17:29
My boy is born in Nov. For the other 9 boys in his class, 3 are born in Jan and at least another 2 born in March. Some kids can read an entire book whereas my son still has difficulty recognizing words and sometimes get certain letters confused. Does it affect his confidence? Certainly! He was quite a brave and confident boy back in playgroup (as a big boy), when we skipped PN and put him straight into K1 (mixed age Montessori) he was still okay knowing some of the kids in his class are much older than him. This year in K2, mainstream through-train IS, when everyone seem to be of the same age, I can tell he struggles and is not as confident as before. However, I really am not sure if retaining him a year would help in the long run...
作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 18:16 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
我在想,過多幾年三月後生的小孩會否又被定義為細B呢?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 15-2-13 18:40
For a small child, a few months could make a lot of difference in terms of development, e.g. 6 months is one eighth the lifetime of a 4 year old, which is a significant amount of time just by simple mathematics. Although there are some small B's who could perform just as well as big B's, they are the exception rather than the norm.
Given the difference is there, whether that difference will make an impact will depend on the school. If the school is always testing and ranking it's pupils, then obviously the small B's confidence will be hit because most of them will regularly rank below average, so delaying one year could be beneficial. If the school does not assess and rank it's pupils, or at least not disclose the rankings to the children, then the impact will be smaller.
The problem with research done by foreign countries on "Redshirting" is that their kindergartens and primary schools aren't nearly as competitive as those in HK, so their small B's probably don't get regular reminders that they are below average and thus not prone to the potentially devastating effect.
作者: sharons 時間: 15-2-13 19:17 標題: 回覆:FattyDaddy 的帖子
說得對,我本人對孩子各方面發展满意有餘,並不存在信心問題,至於市場對適齡發展之定義及期望只作參考,也不一面倒盲目支持附和免將壓力轉嫁孩子,更影響自信。

作者: happyhealthymin 時間: 15-2-13 19:23 標題: 回覆:想問細B考上國際學校小學難嗎
My child is also a small b. He is slow to warm up and shy in front of strangers. You could imagine what happens in interviews. His PN teacher said he learned quite fast, but I stil put him back one year. I really see the difference now. He is more sociable and confident as cimpare to before though further improvements are needed. He talked about his classmates at home and sometimes he told me someone was crying at school and he was big boy now and not cried like before. Another reason I put him one year back is to delay his formal learning age. I believe that pleanty of play is the foundation for formal learning.

作者: Artie 時間: 15-2-14 13:36
jolalee 發表於 15-2-12 16:15 
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You are absolutely correct that it is the confidence of the parents and not neces ...
I never took the time to go through the details of that article. I never really thought about that either. I put my kids in school as "small babies", like I said, simply because we needed a school. And, my thought was also that, if things were not as smooth, I could always let them "repeat" one year. Not necessarily in the same kindergarten/primary school. At that time, international schools were not as demanded as now, and it was not exactly hard to find a place.
Anyway, it turned out that both my kids were doing fine. I do not remember kindergarten teachers complaining to me about their developments and abilities. But, again, note that we are talking about international kindergartens. I do believe international kindergartens are much less demanding and more tolerant than local kindergartens. However, this sub-forum is an international school sub-forum. So I guess we can focus on discussing what the expectations are at international kindergartens. In any case, I think the thing is, everyone's development is different. May be we do not have to care so much about those studies. A specific "norm" sample might not work for everyone. Some smaller children can have really high aptitudes. Some older children can have slower developments. I personally know a kid that delay one year of schooling, even she was born in May. It was an ESF school that suggested this girl to delay one year. But that was many years ago. (Lost contact with this family but the girl was a couple years older than my daughter, so she should be 20 years old now.) Not sure whether ESF schools can be as flexible now.
作者: prettymama888 時間: 15-2-21 01:20
My son who is a small b who was born in October, he's quite shy in front of strangers and needs time for warm up, after warm up he's so talkative n shows confidence in speaking in English. However he got rejected from esf year 1 application. Anyone knows that whether I can apply year 1 again next year? As I think not just because of helping his motor learning skills and development, it also effect his confidence for his life and future, I truly believe confidence learning happy school life is so important and critical for his future success.
Anyone knows which international school accept one year defer application?
I saw nord anglia accepts kids for year one from the kids who born from sept to aug next year, which means this school automatic defer a year application for students who born from sept to dec.
Anyone knows more about nord Angelia? As this is brand new school in hk.....
作者: jolalee 時間: 15-2-22 02:50
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 15-2-22 02:51 編輯
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For your case i think you can try applying for schools with the birth cut off Sept to Aug the following year. That way he is the 'Big B' in the class without feeling out of place or 'too old'. Schools that use that cut off instead of the Jan-Dec cut off that i know of includes CIS, GSIS, HKIS, ICS, Harrow & Kellett.
My son is born in November so i've done a bit of research. Unfortunately our top choice has the Jan-Dec cut-off, which my son got in, so i still have the dilemma of whether to put him back a year or not... 
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