RC vs VSA我自己覺得2間差唔多，大家有其他意見可參考嗎？

lpanna

RC and VSA ，2間都係學繁體中文，IB課程，一條龍，學費差唔多，校舍2間都幾好，請問你地覺得2間仲有咩不同，要考慮咩因素？會點揀？

Ruth0329

原帖由 ruth_esther 於 15-03-24 發表
........ me too, I ve given up offer from other ESF  foundation school (secondary school)...My kids  ...

I have read one of your threads about an option to switch to IGCSE or staying at RC for MYP. Glad that you made your decision finally! Would you please continue to share more? Your stay must have balanced the pros and cons. Btw, any seat available at KGV? How many percentage of current student would opt for a switch to IGCSE? thanks!

Artie

poonseelai 發表於 15-3-19 13:37
The student applies for HKU Business.

It is really hard to say why that happened.
It is clearly stated in the official page that English A is a proof of English proficiency.
And indeed, most students do not need to submit IELTS results. You can probably confirm this with the university placement officer at your school.
I can only suspect that this is only a special case. Most HKU and CUHK offers are conditional offers. May be this student got his offer with the condition stating that he has to have a final grades of at least a 5 in English A, but in the end, the student got only a 4. And thus the student was asked to provide something extra to proof his english proficiency.
This is just my speculation.

poonseelai

Artie 發表於 15-3-9 17:57
This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply  ...

The student applies for HKU Business.  

minirat

HIHinsurance 發表於 15-2-19 16:37
VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文

大部份學生的英文都嚇死人(ORAL)

謝謝分享，獲益不少！

“CDNIS, SIS ,VSA 三間拍埋一齊, 你便發覺
讀VSA 似中了伏“

我想問這句是否指英文程度？

poonseelai

kingkongdaddy 發表於 15-3-9 19:55
如果單憑學校規定IB 英文選修方面估計，RC一定要Eng A 但 VSA 沒有此規定，這樣推算，英文方面RC比較優勝。 ...

Sorry, VSA does offer Chinese B SL.  This is for those students who genuinely need it and subject to the discretion of the Diploma Coordinator and Chinese Head of Department.  In 2014, less than 5 students took Chinese B SL.

kingkongdaddy

如果單憑學校規定IB 英文選修方面估計，RC一定要Eng A 但 VSA 沒有此規定，這樣推算，英文方面RC比較優勝。

輪中文方面，VSA沒有offer Chinese B (SL) ，所有學生只可選Chinese A 或 B (HL)，那麼推算 VSA的中文教學比RC好！

樓主可藉此點作一個參考！

jemima

原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 15-02-19 發表
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-19 17:08 編輯

VSA 幾乎無見 過學生 講得到好英文

請問知道有幾多％學生只考 cert 嗎？ they omit this info in their web

poonseelai

原帖由 kingkongdaddy 於 15-03-09 發表
回覆 Radiomama 的帖子

RC跟其他ESF 中學都是規定學生考IB English first language 即English A ，可以這 ...

VSA 無規定考ENG A, 可考B HL，但中文B只有HL，我見RC有學生考中文B SL. 其實每間學校要求不同，目的都是按學生興趣和能力入讀心儀大學和學科。

poonseelai

原帖由 Artie 於 15-03-09 發表
This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply  ...

Can find out more from the school.

Artie

kingkongdaddy 發表於 15-3-8 02:21
請問RC家長，學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ？

RC does not offer English B. So everyone has to take English A, which is considered first language level curriculum.

Artie

poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...

This is totally strange.
Do you have more information of this student?
Which program did he apply to?
What was his English A HL score?
What did HKU ask for his IELTS?

kingkongdaddy

回覆 Radiomama 的帖子

RC跟其他ESF 中學都是規定學生考IB English first language 即English A ，可以這樣說，該校的英語水評照理應該是好的。我認識一位VSA家長說VSA 他兒子選English second language 即English B，學校是否沒有考English A 的規定？

nintendo

poonseelai 發表於 15-3-8 13:44
Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A ...

Students for 2015 must achieve at least ONE of the following to be considered for admission to HKU.  Other proof of English proficiency (for example, GCE A-level English Language) will be considered on individual merit basis.

International examinations:

• Grade C or better in English Language at GCSE / GCEO
• Grade C or better in English First Language at IGCSE
• Grade B or better in English Second Language at IGCSE
• An overall band of 6.5 or better in Academic IELTS
• A score of 550 or better in the paper-based TOEFL (213 for computer-based, 80 for internet-based) [Note: TOEFL ITP test is not accepted for satisfying the English Language Requirement]
• Subscores of 550 or better in Critical Reading and 550 or better in Writing in SAT in the same attempt
• Grade 4 or better in the Higher Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
  grade 5 or better in the Standard Level English Language (B Syllabus); or
  grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language (A1 or A2 Syllabus); or
  grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Language and Literature; or
  grade 4 or better in the Higher or Standard Level English Language A: Literature; or
  grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Text and Performance; or
  grade 4 or better in the Standard Level English - Literature and Performance (A1 syllabus) at International Baccalaureate
  

Looks like IB English is one of the qualifications that satisfy the minimum requirement.

Anyway, my point was not to discuss how widely acceptable IB English is (although it may be your concerns). I merely wanted to point out, schools like ISF, VSA, RC are generally considered by universities to be in par with ESF, HKIS, etc  when it comes to whether it is an international schools.

Again, individual parents are of course entitled to what they want to believe.

poonseelai

原帖由 nintendo 於 15-03-08 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 15-3-8 13:35 編輯

Requirement for IELTS may have changed. I was told this year HKU requires an IB student taking Eng A HL to provide IELTS as well.

nintendo

poonseelai 發表於 15-2-26 22:33
唉，何謂國際學校每人定義唔同，有家長認為只有教育局名下定義為國際學校的才是，RC和VSA等PlS雖然用國際課 ...

To be honest, it does not matter what "parents" want to believe. I would look at what universities consider.
As far as I know, schools like ISF and RCHK are considered "schools taught in english medium". Their students do not need to write IELTS or TOEFL (for students that have been studying in such schools for 4 years ---- number of years varies depending on university). I personally have friends with children in IBDP in these schools so I can only say so for these 2 schools. Not sure about other schools like VSA. More, these schools offer "non-local" curriculum and that is what make them "non-local". Whether a school is truly international, well, different parents can have their own views. My kids are at STC and so many non-STC friends have raised that there are so many ethnic chinese, it does not seem to be an international school. Similar comments for KGV, but just that they have more indians instead. I think I will let people think what they want, because what they want to believe does not affect the chance of my children entering top universities. So whatever.

Radiomama

RC 的group 1只有English A or Chinese A; 而group 2 就只有Chinese B or Spanish B;
所以只有Group 1 讀English A & Chinese A>考Bilingual , or English A + Chinese B;
又或Group 1 考自修Japanese A / Spanish A/ Hindu A囉。

kingkongdaddy

請問RC家長，學校有無限制IB English 一定要考first language ？

Lamk2

Oops... I mean we just accepted the P1 offer from RC for my younger one.