香港的直資私立學校會否超英趕美？

lawsonmoon

有報導有名人透過中介人捐款哈佛但仔女不獲取錄而怒告對方。香港既直资私校同時有收生自主權和接受捐款,會不會早晚淪落到此地步？

lawsonmoon

sheffield 發表於 12-10-15 16:53
當然有啦！我身邊的人都有發生過…有人介紹再做donation，半年後插班入學...不過應唔會好多掛… ...

希望不會是官津校吧？

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hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-15 16:56
美國那case是告個consultant，根本沒有捐獻比學校wor

捐獻比學校從來全世界都有，點淪落法？我有留意樓主 ...

我諗你係性本善論和理想主意者。我只相信機制和誘因,有不完善既機制和誘因,這種事情終歸會發生,時間既問題。

lawsonmoon

hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-15 17:32
津校都可以捐獻wor，你捐比鮮魚行都得。

多謝樓主讚美！

我都係講緊捐款入學尼D不道德行為。行賄是犯法,已有機制嚴懲,冇乜好講。
津校可自主收生既位很少很少,也冇乜好講吧！

lawsonmoon

hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-15 17:32
津校都可以捐獻wor，你捐比鮮魚行都得。

多謝樓主讚美！

君不見spcc和DGJS小一申請已收集一些常人覺得同收生冇必要收集既資料(要申請人提供正本水電媒單供核對所申報住址)；你試吓問他們資料有何用途？點解唔收生後才要求核對？
Why 其他學校包括男拔不會核對申報既地址,你鐘意報山頂又得,劏房又得？誠實對自己既都會有個答案。

lawsonmoon

sheffield 發表於 12-10-16 14:53
其實呢樣野都好普通…名門望族的小朋友們都在明校讀，係咪真係個個出自名門的小朋友都係咁叻，經過一輪inte ...

所以盡管冇機會受惠,我仍然非常非常欣賞那些已經是名校,但仍拒絶轉私校直資既辦學團體！such as la salle, wah yan, marymount, maryknoll, st mary etc. 排名不分先後。

lawsonmoon

chunyatmama 發表於 12-10-16 15:18
One of the reasons for those tranditional schools do not want to change to DSS or private school is ...

you really think that is a reason!? dbs is charging about $4k per month. you really think that all the schools i mentioned above cannot take enough students if they change to dss and charge $4k per month!? you know a whole bunch of parents are paying over $4k per month just for eca!
then you tell me why XXX can while la salle cannot if that is the reason? why YYY can while st mary cannot?

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GHcat 發表於 12-10-16 22:34
I don't want people to involve my Alma Mater in their argument.
Good Hope changed to DSS because the ...

it`s funny what make you feel that people need to follow your "instruction". btw, we are mainly talking about primary schools here, you should have told us why good hope primary changed to private school on day one.

lawsonmoon

GHcat 發表於 12-10-17 00:40
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I did not give anyone any instructions. I just stated my feelings.

i would say SORRY to you as it is a misunderstanding by me about gh primary. i will change my quote and not using gh as example.

lawsonmoon

tumtum 發表於 12-10-17 13:04
Li Ka Shing's sons both went to SPCC, didn't they donate a whole building to the school last year or ...

對,應該是教區覺得與其辦學目的相違背,並不是什麼校舍maintenance fees 問題。

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hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-17 00:33
看來樓主都是理想主意者。

針無兩頭利。名校大前提都是保持學校成就， 以end point 來計。先唔好講錢，因 ...

對,我骨子裏係理想主意者,所以才有這樣既擔心。名津校西走人我反而覺得冇問題,跟唔上唔等於學生差,只是教育方式不適合,at least,學生有平等入學機會。亞張五常大教授係HK教育方式被叫做差學生,去西方學育就如魚得水！

lawsonmoon

eyschoi 發表於 12-10-17 08:35
Voluntary donation to school by parents is always not an issue but donation to school in order to ge ...

我題目都係講緊後者,但佢地係反而用前者上岡上線,大造文章。哈佛既case,以前覺得係傳説,依家知道是事實。
同樣HK現時没有完善既機制,又同時存在誘因,why現時既myth,將來一定唔會變成truth？

lawsonmoon

ABC-DAD 發表於 12-10-17 00:52
除左官校，其他辦學團體或多或少都有慕捐籌款等活動，唔覺得要無限上綱。唔通家長自己夾錢起學校都算得理虧 ...

題目係講緊捐錢換入學,校內捐款是自願,冇乜好講。隔離post話spcc籌款唔夠,校長當學生面講説話俾學生聽,如家長覺得冇問題,關我地咩事呢！

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lawsonmoon 發表於 12-10-16 14:30
君不見spcc和DGJS小一申請已收集一些常人覺得同收生冇必要收集既資料(要申請人提供正本水電媒單供核對所申 ...

Hi QQLAU,
Well,我真係唔知我諗多咗or你冇諗到嘢。尼D個别例子,如果有特異功能,俾埋獎學金都仲有。

成日俾人話係貴族學校既男拔都唔會check人住址！
你揾專人面試時check人住址要check二三千個,你註册時才check只需check二三百個,名校唔係蠢,點解呢？

再問自己點解要check住址？係咪真既住址和我揀學生又有咪關係呢？

lawsonmoon

cykk 發表於 12-10-17 17:51
以我所知spcc只會收舊生和現有學生的捐款，與學校無關係人仕想借捐錢買學位，唔好意思，學校是不會接受的。 ...

如果係真的話,尼D咪係好既機制防止人做壞事囉。

lawsonmoon

cykk 發表於 12-10-17 18:08
其實校長所講是今年比去年捐款少幾十萬，如果學校真係可以賣學位，駛鬼當學生面講咩，開價五十萬一個位都 ...

0h,尼個post係講緊校内捐款,不關買位事。佢地討論緊是否應對學生们講D咁既嘢。佢地覺得凯撒歸凱撤,俗語話冤有頭,债有主,唔應該對小學生講D咁既嘢喎。

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steven819 發表於 12-10-17 19:03
I think every school has their own tradition and produce students with different character. Every sc ...

i cannot agree with you that "checking the address while handling the application form is a very normal procedure". how many dss and private schools in hk? there are only these 2 schools namely spcc and dgjs will check your address proof.  i hope you can distinguish writing address on application form is different from cross checking your address proof by providing utilities bills! if you think 2 out of let say 100 is normal, then we might have different norms indeed.

lawsonmoon

ABC-DAD 發表於 12-10-18 02:27
我唔D明數據點來，我相信間間學校都要學生嘅回郵信封記返D資料俾學生，要帶地址證明去對會否出錯，都係保證 ...

数據係EK既家長confirm的。如怕寄失,應該對信封,只對報名表那信封也有可能錯。那1st對了ok啦,2nd要副校長親自對第二次,又點解呢？其實我都唔想沾污你既理想世界,我只是列出這事實,各人有各人既理解,我會尊重你既想法。
事實就真係只有這兩校做這個動作。成日俾人話貴族校既男拔都不會要求address proof。

lawsonmoon

hophopbunny 發表於 12-10-18 16:48
QQLAU  講緊小一哦, 5、6歲的小朋友會有什麼特異功能?其實你係想表達直資名校淨係收有錢仔或是捐錢就可以讀 ...

5,6歲已經有全港分䶖泳賽獎牌了,地區名津都已经搶這些學生了(扣門位)。
没有證據顯示直資名校可捐錢買位,你不能這樣説啊！

我是説要防止這些事發生,包括完善個機制。

今日在收生前收集你的住址証明,明年可收集你的税單,他們可以説幫你對回郵信封,因税單個地址最準,冇枉管嗰喎。

lawsonmoon

steven819 發表於 12-10-17 22:08
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Obvious my norm is different from yours then. My point is that the school is ...

因為政府係在憲報刋憲要收集你的住址,用途寫明係用作大抽獎(分區),你報假地址係犯法的,會被起訴啊！
這些學校會公怖收集住址證明的用途嗎？如報他人住址既後果嗎？

不可相提並論啊！